Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

ttystikk

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209 dead Palestinians vs 33 dead Israelis in 'the latest flare up'. I'm sure the numbers have changed since then, I'm equally sure the ratio hasn't.

Well it isn't ten to one, but considering one side has all the advantages of modern technology, including attack helicopters, jet fighters and NUCLEAR WEAPONS FFS, maybe blaming the Palestinians is just a wee bit disingenuous?
 

bravedave

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209 dead Palestinians vs 33 dead Israelis in 'the latest flare up'. I'm sure the numbers have changed since then, I'm equally sure the ratio hasn't.

Well it isn't ten to one, but considering one side has all the advantages of modern technology, including attack helicopters, jet fighters and NUCLEAR WEAPONS FFS, maybe blaming the Palestinians is just a wee bit disingenuous?
On no. How did it start!
 

Kasuti

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One thing we should all remember is that Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for thousands of years now, each vowing to wipe out the other. I don't think there will ever be a lasting peace agreement between the two.
 

bravedave

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209 dead Palestinians vs 33 dead Israelis in 'the latest flare up'. I'm sure the numbers have changed since then, I'm equally sure the ratio hasn't.

Well it isn't ten to one, but considering one side has all the advantages of modern technology, including attack helicopters, jet fighters and NUCLEAR WEAPONS FFS, maybe blaming the Palestinians is just a wee bit disingenuous?
Oh no. 210. Soldiers surprised a farmer...who happened to be wielding an axe.

...and so it goes.
 

bravedave

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One thing we should all remember is that Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for thousands of years now, each vowing to wipe out the other. I don't think there will ever be a lasting peace agreement between the two.
Not really a fair or true depiction. Kind if like Obama trying to rationalize and excuse today's muslim terrorists with the Crusades, only with even less insight.
 
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UncleBuck

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If you try to sneak it aboard a plane you might find yourself detained.
so let me get this straight.

you are against basically anything government because freedumz, but you support the TSA?

i guess your fear of muslims trumps your hatred of government.

silly little bigot.
 

ttystikk

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One thing we should all remember is that Jews and Muslims have been killing each other for thousands of years now, each vowing to wipe out the other. I don't think there will ever be a lasting peace agreement between the two.
This is a dangerous copout that plays right into the hands of those who would profit from selling both sides the means to destroy themselves.

In other words, REAL evil.
 

Flaming Pie

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This is a dangerous copout that plays right into the hands of those who would profit from selling both sides the means to destroy themselves.

In other words, REAL evil.
You can't wipe out religion.

It goes back to the old testament. Brother against brother.

One brother is blessed and the other feels he should have received the blessing of god. So the one brother resents the other for taking the blessing of God.

One brother became the Arab nations and the other became the Jewish nation.
 

ttystikk

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You can't wipe out religion.

It goes back to the old testament. Brother against brother.

One brother is blessed and the other feels he should have received the blessing of god. So the one brother resents the other for taking the blessing of God.

One brother became the Arab nations and the other became the Jewish nation.
And it's continuing to drive this narrative that will condemn them all to centuries more needless deaths.

Yitzak Rabin was the man who would make peace. He was murdered by an Israeli extremist. As long as their society lets the extremists lead, little progress can be made.
 

Kasuti

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This is a dangerous copout that plays right into the hands of those who would profit from selling both sides the means to destroy themselves.

In other words, REAL evil.
It's not a copout, it's just the the mindset of both sides.History is just repeating itself, times change but people don't sometimes.
 

ttystikk

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It's not a copout, it's just the the mindset of both sides.History is just repeating itself, times change but people don't sometimes.
Really? Were all those immigrants who showed up after 1947 somehow privy to this history, too?

And what of the nations that perpetrated this against the Palestinians? Why doesn't anyone hold the US, Great Britain or Russia accountable?

It's one of the great human rights crimes of our time, no damned wonder it's a mess!
 

bravedave

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Really? Were all those immigrants who showed up after 1947 somehow privy to this history, too?

And what of the nations that perpetrated this against the Palestinians? Why doesn't anyone hold the US, Great Britain or Russia accountable?

It's one of the great human rights crimes of our time, no damned wonder it's a mess!
Again, you show a warped, anti-semitic invention of history.

Again, the facts:

Arabs who are Israeli citizens are more free than any in Arab states.
 

ChesusRice

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Again, you show a warped, anti-semitic invention of history.

Again, the facts:

Arabs who are Israeli citizens are more free than any in Arab states.
Res. 57 (Sep. 18, 1948 ) – Expresses deep shock at the assassination of the U.N. Mediator in Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte, by Zionist terrorists.

Res. 89 (Nov. 17, 1950) – Requests that attention be given to the expulsion of “thousands of Palestine Arabs” and calls upon concerned governments to take no further action “involving the transfer of persons across international frontiers or armistice lines”, and notes that Israel announced that it would withdraw to the armistice lines.

Res. 93 (May 18, 1951) – Finds that Israeli airstrikes on Syria on April 5, 1951 constitutes “a violation of the cease-fire”, and decides that Arab civilians expelled from the demilitarized zone by Israel should be allowed to return.

Res. 100 (Oct. 27, 1953) – Notes that Israel had said it would stop work it started in the demilitarized zone on September 2, 1953.

Res. 101 (Nov. 24, 1953) – Finds Israel’s attack on Qibya, Jordan on October 14-15, 1953 to be a violation of the cease-fire and “Expresses the strongest censure of that action”.

Res. 106 (Mar. 29, 1955) – Condemns Israel’s attack on Egyptian forces in the Gaza Strip on February 28, 1955.

Res. 111 (Jan. 19, 1956) – Condemns Israel’s attack on Syria on December 11, 1955 as “a flagrant violation of the cease-fire” and armistice agreement.

Res. 119 (Oct. 31, 1956) – Considers that “a grave situation has been created” by the attack against Egypt by the forces of Britain, France, and Israel.

Res. 171 (Apr. 9, 1962) – Reaffirms resolution 111 and determines that Israel’s attack on Syria on March 16-17, 1962 “constitutes a flagrant violation of that resolution”.

Res. 228 (Nov. 25, 1966) – “Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property resulting from the action” by Israel in the southern Hebron area on November 13, 1966, and “Censures Israel for this large-scale military action in violation of the United Nations Charter” and the armistice agreement between Israel and Jordan.

Res. 237 (Jun. 14, 1967) – Calls on Israel “to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants where military operations have taken place” during the war launched by Israel on June 5, 1967 “and to facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of hostilities”.

Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967) – Emphasizes “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”, emphasizes that member states have a commitment to abide by the U.N. Charter, and calls for the “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied” during the June 1967 war.

Res. 248 (Mar. 24, 1968 ) – Observes that the Israeli attack on Jordan “was of a large-scale and carefully planned nature”, “Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property”, “Condemns the military action launched by Israel in flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter and the cease-fire resolutions”, and “Calls upon Israel to desist from” further violations of resolution 237.

Res. 250 (Apr. 27, 1968 ) – Considers “that the holding of a military parade in Jerusalem will aggravate tensions in the area and have an adverse effect on a peaceful settlement of the problems in the area” and “Calls upon Israel to refrain from holding the military parade in Jerusalem which is contemplated” for May 2, 1968.

Res. 251 (May 2, 1968 ) – Recalls resolution 250 and “Deeply deplores the holding by Israel of the military parade in Jerusalem” on May 2, 1968 “in disregard of” resolution 250.

Res. 252 (May 21, 1968 ) – “Deplores the failure of Israel to comply with” General Assembly resolutions 2253 and 2254, considers Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem “invalid”, and calls upon Israel “to rescind all such measures already taken and to desist forthwith from taking any further action which tends to change the status of Jerusalem”.

Res. 256 (Aug. 16, 1968 ) – Recalls Israel’s “flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter” condemned in resolution 248, observes that further Israeli air attacks on Jordan “were of a large scale and carefully planned nature in violation of resolution 248”, “Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property”, and condemns Israel’s attacks.

Res. 259 (Sep. 27, 1968 ) – Expresses concern for “the safety, welfare and security” of the Palestinians “under military occupation by Israel”, deplores “the delay in the implementation of resolution 237 (1967) because of the conditions still being set by Israel for receiving a Special Representative of the Secretary-General”, and requests Israel to receive the Special Representative and facilitate his work.

Res. 262 (Dec. 31, 1968 ) – Observes “that the military action by the armed forces of Israel against the civil International Airport of Beirut was premeditated and of a large scale and carefully planned nature”, and condemns Israel for the attack.

Res.265 (Apr. 1, 1969) – Expresses “deep concern that the recent attacks on Jordanian villages and other populated areas were of a pre-planned nature, in violation of resolutions” 248 and 256, “Deplores the loss of civilian life and damage to property”, and “Condemns the recent premeditated air attacks launched by Israel on Jordanian villages and populated areas in flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter and the cease-fire resolutions”.

Res. 267 (Jul. 3, 1969) – Recalls resolution 252 and General Assembly resolutions 2253 and 2254, notes that “since the adoption of the above-mentioned resolutions Israel has taken further measures tending to change the status of the City of Jerusalem”, reaffirms “the established principle that acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible”, “Deplores the failure of Israel to show any regard for the resolutions”, “Censures in the strongest terms all measures taken to change the status of the City of Jerusalem”, “Confirms that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel which purport to alter the status of Jerusalem, including expropriation of land and properties thereon, are invalid and cannot change that status”, and urgently calls on Israel to rescind the measures taken to annex Jerusalem.

Res. 270 (Aug. 26, 1969) – “Condemns the premeditated air attack by Israel on villages in southern Lebanon in violation of its obligations under the Charter and Security Council resolutions”.

Res. 271 (Sep. 15, 1969) – Expresses grief “at the extensive damage caused by arson to the Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem” on August 21, 1969 “under the military occupation of Israel”, reaffirms “the established principle that acquisition of territory by military conquest is inadmissible”, “Determines that the execrable act of desecration and profanation of the Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque emphasizes the immediate necessity of Israel’s desisting from acting in violation” previous resolutions and rescinding measures to annex Jerusalem, calls on Israel “to observe the provisions of the Geneva Conventions and international law governing military occupation”, and condemns Israel’s failure to comply with previous resolutions.

Res. 279 (May 12, 1970) – “Demands the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory.”

Res. 280 (May 19, 1970) – Expresses conviction that “that the Israeli military attack against Lebanon was premeditated and of a large scale and carefully planned in nature”, recalls resolution 279 “demanding the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory”, deplores Israel’s violation of resolutions 262 and 270, “Condemns Israel for its premeditated military action in violation of its obligations under the Charter of the United Nations”, and “Deplores the loss of life and damage to property inflicted as a result” of Israeli violations of Security Council resolutions.

Res. 285 (Sep. 5, 1970) – “Demands the complete and immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory.”
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