urine for your nitrogen source

hellmutt bones

hellmutt bones

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ganga gurl420 said:
I have been reading article after article about using your urine as a nitrogen source. It not only is a good nitrogen source but also is high in your phos.
You are suppose to dilute it 10/1 ratio.
Anyone in organic growing try this with your grow????
I tested it out on house plants and a week later ...well...wow.
Any thoughts?????
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I took a shit in a pot once. Cus i was in a secret grow room where they let vicious dogs out in the hallways where the rest rooms where. So i kinda dint have a choice.
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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1kemosabe said:
This reminds me of an episode of trailer park boys only a little different.
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cannabineer said:
Two suggestions. 0.6% diluted by 20 is 0.03% which is 300ppm. That is lockout level sodium. The problem is compounded by the sodium staying in the soil ... cumulative lockout.

The other is plant-specific. Lots of house and garden plants are quite tolerant of sodium and can use the nitrogen. I pee on my lawn regularly. However Cannabis is quite sodium-sensitive, like say Arctostaphylos species. So sodium plus plants OK except when the plants are no good at shedding it.
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okay then....that makes more sense. Sooo since I have a bag of urea 45-0-0. how much do you think I should put in a gallon of water? Like an 1/8 of a teaspoon???
 
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kindnug

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I've never had the need for that much nitrogen.
I grow mostly organic, ff cocoloco base + compost tea's/topdress @ wk2 flower.

Are you growing in miracle grow or hydro? Just trying to understand why a cannabis plant would need that much nitro...
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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kindnug said:
I've never had the need for that much nitrogen.
I grow mostly organic, ff cocoloco base + compost tea's/topdress @ wk2 flower.

Are you growing in miracle grow or hydro? Just trying to understand why a cannabis plant would need that much nitro...
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no im growing in aged composted manure cut with alphalpha mixed with biotone starter plus (organic) fox farms happy frog bulb food and epsom salts. When I did a nute test it showed a little weak on the N side. I was just wanting to use a good nitro boost like maybe twice in the veg stage while its outside. We get a lot of rain this time of year and nitrogen gets washed out pretty easily.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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ganga gurl420 said:
okay then....that makes more sense. Sooo since I have a bag of urea 45-0-0. how much do you think I should put in a gallon of water? Like an 1/8 of a teaspoon???
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I would do this by weight. I have no clue what the bulk density of the urea you have on hand is. So ...

I would first decide how much N. More than a 50 ppm boost I would not recommend. 50 ppm is 50 milligrams of N in a liter of water, so 110 mg (call it 100 mg; makes life simpler with no issues for the plants) of urea in a liter ... 400 mg in a gallon. That might be somewhere around 1/8 teaspoon, but I would be sure to check the volume by weight before giving my plants that first drink. N is quickly toxic, so even doubling that urea could scorch'em over one day. Approach cautiously from the underfed side, is my advice.

Have a milligram scale. Here is one I like ... cheap and good. It's nice to have such an instrument.
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-GEMINI-20-Portable-MilliGram/dp/B0012TDNAM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462284516&sr=8-1&keywords=milligram+balance
 
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ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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cannabineer said:
I would do this by weight. I have no clue what the bulk density of the urea you have on hand is. So ...

I would first decide how much N. More than a 50 ppm boost I would not recommend. 50 ppm is 50 milligrams in a liter of N, so 110 mg (call it 100 mg; makes life simpler with no issues for the plants) of urea in a liter ... 400 mg in a gallon. That might be somewhere around 1/8 teaspoon, but I would be sure to check the volume by weight before giving my plants that first drink. N is quickly toxic, so even doubling that urea could scorch'em over one day. Approach cautiously from the underfed side, is my advice.
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Yeah I know its some kicken stuff....but that is really good advice. Thank you
 
st0wandgrow

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greasemonkeymann said:
as far as the other people that advise heavily against it, I simply don't agree with them.
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I don't think it's a terrible idea to use urine, but wouldn't you agree that there are better sources of N for your plants? Sodium levels, potential for pathogens, urinary tract infections, etc. I mean blood meal is a fine source of highly soluble N as well, but there are some potentially negative drawbacks with that too. Same with Guano's.

I'm sure it works, but I could think of dozens of other sources of NPK that I'd use before urine that are free (or very cheap).
 
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st0wandgrow said:
I don't think it's a terrible idea to use urine, but wouldn't you agree that there are better sources of N for your plants? Sodium levels, potential for pathogens, urinary tract infections, etc. I mean blood meal is a fine source of highly soluble N as well, but there are some potentially negative drawbacks with that too. Same with Guano's.

I'm sure it works, but I could think of dozens of other sources of NPK that I'd use before urine that are free (or very cheap).
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oh hell-fuckin-yeah my friend! alfalfa, comfrey, rabbit manure, nettles, even blood meal i'd use before urine, but if you needed a 100% soluble and available nitrogen, it's not a bad choice at all.
you guys know me
I was simply trying to get the poor OP some info without flaming her..
for christs sake some people on this site are well beyond ignorant (and I of course I am not directing that towards you)
but she asked a simple question if someone has used it before and their experience regarding it.
after all that's the sole purpose of this site, no?
 
greasemonkeymann

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kenya123 said:
yur a dumbass to use your own piss dude,its just fucking sick,whats next shit and jizz?

i couldnt give a shit if it doubled my yield,just the thought is beyond disguisting to me....to each their own,but dont fuckin call me ignorant
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heh...
well... as to calling you ignorant...
we got a saying round here..
"if it walks like a duck... and quacks like a duck?... We'll i'll be damned if it ain't a duck"
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kenya123

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greasemonkeymann said:
heh...
well... as to calling you ignorant...
we got a saying round here..
"if it walks like a duck... and quacks like a duck?... We'll i'll be damned if it ain't a duck"
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ignorance would be me not believing it worked without any kind of personal research,i never ever said that,i just cant feed my plants with my own urine because i couldnt enjoy smoking the final product,not that its bad for me,its just the thought of knowing urine was used,before you use a word have a general understanding of its definition.....

definition of irony....being ignorant of the word ignorant!lol
 
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kenya123

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i used to do a lot of ice fishing tournaments when i was younger with my father,we both fished in the world ice fishing championship,and my dad founded and ran the canadian ice fishing championship for 11 years....when we fished together i kept maggots in a pill bottle and kept down my pants to keep them warm and active,my dad kept them in his mouth!did it work?absolutely!but i could never do it cause it grossed me out.....now does that make me ignorant?u tell me
 
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