Is my clone dying?

$bkbbudz$

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How long ago was it cut? Was the mother from your own grow? Is it well rooted? What is your medium? Have you fed it at all? If so, what nutes? What is your light source, temperature, rh, and ph? All of this information is necessary to give you any proper opinion.
 

Str8bk

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Ok so it's in miracle grow and I cut it from a plant I have been growing for a little over a month. I'm not experience at all just what I've read online. And in a book or 2. Lighting is CFL 3 23w 5000k. Temp is between 80-90F. Have not fed it anything just misting the diy humidity dome.
 

$bkbbudz$

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HMMMM..Since you used MG you actually have been feeding it. Almost all MG products contain time released water activated nutes...so when you water you also feed. But since it is already in the MG I would keep it there until it is ready for transplant and use a much more cannabis friendly medium.

How long ago was it cut from the mother? Did you root it first in rockwool or other cloning media before placing it in the soil?
 

Str8bk

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It's been about 4 days since I cut it. The only thing I did was coat the tip with honey. I read somewhere that it could work so I tried it.
 

$bkbbudz$

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Well, IMHO the plant will not survive, clones should be rooted prior to being put into a soil or soiless medium. Please do not just take my opinion as law or even as advice. Research and read around the forum and make your own diagnosis.
 

GreenLogician

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Hi!
If you'd said more like 10 days, I would have said 'that yellowing on the bottom leaves, did that just appear in the last few days? If so that can be a good sign, of it likely using stored nutrients to grow roots.'

4 days is a little too early to see that effect in soil, unless honey is some miracle quick-rooter.

"Lighting is CFL 3 23w 5000k"
--- This could easily be too much lighting, depending on how much light your humidity dome blocks out.
I use one 23w CFL to root 9 to 12 clones at once!
 

GreenLogician

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4 days, start conditioning it to be domeless now.
Ten minutes no dome today, a few hours tomorrow, many hours the next day, domeless from the next day on. (Sort of thing - dome back on when she wilts regardless of keeping to schedule.)
 

MjAeJdIiK

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4 days, start conditioning it to be domeless now.
Ten minutes no dome today, a few hours tomorrow, many hours the next day, domeless from the next day on. (Sort of thing - dome back on when she wilts regardless of keeping to schedule.)
I didn't know about taking the dome off like that, I never did that just domed them until I potted them.
 

GreenLogician

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I've had some become addicted to the dome like that, never rooting and always wilting when the dome is removed :P
Shifting to drinking through leaves instead of up the stem
 

GreenLogician

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Although it also could be that the prolonged moisture promotes mold, and not-yet-visible amounts prevented them rooting.
 
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Cannacat

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My first cloning attempts went straight into coco in peat pots, and I used honey too cos I didn't have anything in and just wanted to practice cloning before flipping my plants into flower. Two out of five made it but it took a while, can't remember exactly but it was a good few weeks, in fact it was only when I gave up and picked up the pots to throw them away that I realised there were roots on two of them coming out of the peat pots! I didn't know about giving them time without the dome either until a couple of weeks after I'd cut them but it actually makes sense, if they're in a high humidity environment absorbing all the moisture they need through their leaves then why do they need to grow roots? I've got some cheese clones on the go in rockwool with rooting hormone now, they've been around a while and are completely out from under the dome now but there's no signs of roots yet which is a bit disappointing cos I thought with the proper equipment this time I'd do loads better, and I took a little white widow clone the other day and put it in rockwool soaked in aloe vera juice, so it'll be interesting to see how that does.
 

GreenLogician

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Even if you can't see roots out the bottom of your cheeses, if you have been domeless more than a day or two without wilting you most likely have some roots going :)
(Unless you have a background humidity of like 75%+)
 

GreenLogician

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So ya, gradual dome removal conditioning doesn't just avoid dome addiction, but it encourages root growth by making the cutting want to transfer moisture up the stem it can feel is damp down there. But it needs roots to suck it up
 

MjAeJdIiK

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So ya, gradual dome removal conditioning doesn't just avoid dome addiction, but it encourages root growth by making the cutting want to transfer moisture up the stem it can feel is damp down there. But it needs roots to suck it up
Right on you silly nosed monkey! I always grew from seeds cause when I was younger I tried to clone once and it was a big failed. Been studying cloning more and having good success but a little rocky getting there. Just need to sharpen my blade! Thanks for the tips gonna go take the dome of my cuttings for a lil bit rn. Kudos
 

Cannacat

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Quick correction, my ww clone in the aloe vera rockwool was a bit wilted when I just went in to squirt the dome, a closer look showed stem rot. I was kind of expecting miracles with the aloe vera, although maybe this is a good thing, maybe my aloe vera enthusiasm will now wain and my poor tiny little succulent plant might be able to grow some new leaves!
 

GreenLogician

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:)
Most people recommend starting dome removal conditioning around day 4-5.
Gradual conditioning could be sharp and be over as soon as day 8-9, if your background humidity is 60-75%
Slower and more gradual, lasting as long as to day 12-16, if your background humidity is low.
 
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