Are Advanced Nutrients still good?

[Orphan Crippler]

You may find this interesting and do your self a google on the phosphorous lie. AN did a tissue analysis on some cannabis plant a few years ago which gave its NPK ratios of the culture and what they found was even the samples of the flower itself had over twice the nitrogen and potassium than P.

I have some friends using PowderFeeding from GHSC. It's not the cheapest for sure but it is the simplest and their ratios look very similar to that tissue culture from AN except than in Holland they can do samples for all the major strains.

Their Veg formula = 24-6-12
Short Flower = 16-6-26
Hybrid = 15-7-22
Long Flower = 18-12-18

This is from their Brochure and kind of matches the FATMANS custom ratios from back in the day, that old toppie sure knew a thing or two about making your own nutrient line.
If I had my way it would just mix my own from scratch and I could make a 1kg bag that instead of costing about $40-50 would be $2-3 but I don't have space for 50kg bag of this and another 50kg bag of that.

 

[Orphan Crippler]

Here is the best example of douche pricing I can find.

Clearex by Bontanicare = 4.5 Grams of sugar! per 1L of water for $14.50............... Don't be fooled people inspect the labels!.
If you think Bontanicare takes the cash out your pocket look even closer to the AN line especially that connoisseur line.... they are derived from the same base salts just in a weaker solution to their already expensive line.

 

[radrolley]

They have evolved over time like all companies but AN never was any good. I mean they are good as far as they do work like any other nutrient. But why pay mega bucks for nutrients when you can get the same results for far less money and work. Fox Farm, Botanicare, Nectar For The Gods, even General Hydroponics are all a much better value and will work just as good. I prefer organic soil mixes myself but it all works. It's nice growing because you save a lot of money that would be spent on weed. But a lot of growers spend way too much on their grow and end up putting themselves in the hole eventually.

As I read in another post, the company is morally bankrupt. A lot of grow stores don't even like to carry them.

 

[radrolley]

Here is the best example of douche pricing I can find.

Clearex by Bontanicare = 4.5 Grams of sugar! per 1L of water for $14.50............... Don't be fooled people inspect the labels!.
If you think Bontanicare takes the cash out your pocket look even closer to the AN line especially that connoisseur line.... they are derived from the same base salts just in a weaker solution to their already expensive line.
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yup, then their flavoring agents are magnesium sulfate. also known as epsom salt. get a bag at the pharmacy for a few bucks and it will last years.

 

[radrolley]

You may find this interesting and do your self a google on the phosphorous lie. AN did a tissue analysis on some cannabis plant a few years ago which gave its NPK ratios of the culture and what they found was even the samples of the flower itself had over twice the nitrogen and potassium than P.

I have some friends using PowderFeeding from GHSC. It's not the cheapest for sure but it is the simplest and their ratios look very similar to that tissue culture from AN except than in Holland they can do samples for all the major strains.

Their Veg formula = 24-6-12
Short Flower = 16-6-26
Hybrid = 15-7-22
Long Flower = 18-12-18

This is from their Brochure and kind of matches the FATMANS custom ratios from back in the day, that old toppie sure knew a thing or two about making your own nutrient line.
If I had my way it would just mix my own from scratch and I could make a 1kg bag that instead of costing about $40-50 would be $2-3 but I don't have space for 50kg bag of this and another 50kg bag of that.

Nectar For The Gods claims you don't need as much P but more calcium and other micronutrients to feed the microbes.

 

[Orphan Crippler]

yup, then their flavoring agents are magnesium sulfate. also known as epsom salt. get a bag at the pharmacy for a few bucks and it will last years.

100% and when it comes to Enzyme product for me that is the best as a bottle of pond cleaner with either em or scd probiotics is the same thing just massively more concentrated at 1ml/50-100L.
Been using pond cleaner for the last two years and it eats the old roots right out those fabric pots in a couple of days. Fantastic for reusing coco and cost about $10 per L and will last at the recommend rate far beyond the sell by date.

 

[Orphan Crippler]

Nectar For The Gods claims you don't need as much P but more calcium and other micronutrients to feed the microbes.

I would upvote but I am a newb member so I don't have the permissions yet.

 

[since1991]

Again...locking in a FULL canopy with co2 temps and humidity in line with optimum lighting for what you got will get way more quantity and quality than any additive ever will. Once you got all that dialed with base nutrients and water then nutrient additives are icing on the cake. Subtle difference at best. In the final dried and cured smoke really.

 

[homebrewer]

HB when you suggest foliage + protekt is this in RO or tap water? Or does it not make a difference?

It doesn't make a difference in the sense that those bottles supply everything the plant needs (actually protekt isn't needed). There is a difference between RO and tap as tap water can be far less than ideal depending on where you live.