What is your Heritage?

[Finshaggy]

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You got it with every Jot and Tittle, lol. Usually people that don't research this stuff don't ever get to see what a Jot and Tittle is. What does it say, and is it Hebrew or Aramaic?

Random:
Jesus was walking around with his disciples on the Sabbath once, and they were taking the tops off of wheat grass to chew on the Gluten like gum. The Pharisees came and said that he was breaking the law by working on the Sabbath, and he gave the example of when King David and his men did the same thing they were doing. And they had to go and think about the conflicting verses.

 

[Finshaggy]

I always thought walking on water and making oceans split in half was some str8 Bullshit .. all text claiming to know anything about magic are pure jokes only fools believe

First off Abrahamic Religion is mostly anti-Magic, Jewish tradition does have some Magic, but it is mostly prayers to God. Christianity and especially Islam are anti-Magic. For example, in one verse (Exodus 22:18 ) it says that you shall not permit a sorceress/witch to live, but in a verse near that a notable person goes and talks to a dead relative using a sorceress. And in Christianity it says that Jesus is the way the truth and the light, so drawing from anything else is considered to be not Christ, and while Jesus never really mentions Satan a lot, he does meet with him a few times, and from that Christians interpret that anything that isn't Jesus is directly a source of Satan. Then Muslims have Talismans to keep Magic from working, or to keep Magic from effecting them, and prayers to call Angels down from Heaven.

Then in traditions like Hinduism, or Paganism, or Zoroastrianism, or other traditions that recognize multiple Gods, drawing from more than once source of God is considered normal.

And most "Magic" is really just Mnemonics (Memory enhancing devices), Knowing of the Calendar and Planets, Different Skills in Different Arts (from Music, to History, to Poetry, to Hymns), and knowing the Properties of different plants.

 

[WeedFreak78]

I think our time line on earth might be skewed and there's been a few different time periods of great civilizations on earth, dating back further than we believe now. There are believed to have been at least a couple of near extinction events where maybe only a few thousand people, possibly less, survived worldwide. We've found 10-20,000 year old sites buried under 10,20,30+ feet of earth. The way the earth recycles, there wouldn't be anything left of a 50,000+ year old civilization, or it's buried so deep now, we'll only find it by chance through mining, or some other intra-terrestrial activity, possibly. And that's only if they built great stone structures that survived.

Look at our society today, how much would be left in 10,000 years. Even the majority of our modern built granite and marble buildings will just be piles of stone by then. I could see people in the far future, finding the remnants of a suburban neighborhood. Nothing but buried foundations, possibly with artifacts, thinking is a tomb system or something, if all our culture had been lost

 

[WeedFreak78]

First off Abrahamic Religion is mostly anti-Magic, Jewish tradition does have some Magic, but it is mostly prayers to God. Christianity and especially Islam are anti-Magic. For example, in one verse (Exodus 22:18 ) it says that you shall not permit a sorceress/witch to live, but in a verse near that a notable person goes and talks to a dead relative using a sorceress. And in Christianity it says that Jesus is the way the truth and the light, so drawing from anything else is considered to be not Christ, and while Jesus never really mentions Satan a lot, he does meet with him a few times, and from that Christians interpret that anything that isn't Jesus is directly a source of Satan. Then Muslims have Talismans to keep Magic from working, or to keep Magic from effecting them, and prayers to call Angels down from Heaven.

Then in traditions like Hinduism, or Paganism, or Zoroastrianism, or other traditions that recognize multiple Gods, drawing from more than once source of God is considered normal.

And most "Magic" is really just Mnemonics (Memory enhancing devices), Knowing of the Calendar and Planets, Different Skills in Different Arts (from Music, to History, to Poetry, to Hymns), and knowing the Properties of different plants.

Yeah it's not "magic", they're called "miracles" instead. ....

 

[Finshaggy]

Here is a good example of Magic being used.

Imhotep was the Vizier of a Pharaoh (Par'Oh, was actually just the Palace's name where Holy people/animals lived, the person we all call Pharaoh because of the Bible was really just the King, think about it: King Tut, King Scorpion, not Pharaoh) and while other Viziers would do things like cut the head off a chicken and see what symbol it stopped on, or read Entrails, or used other forms of Bird, Animal, Water, Fire, etc Divination, Imhotep used those things but also used to read ancient books (And he was alive around 2,500-3,000 BC, so these books were ancient even to him, making them really old) in order to solve the problems of the modern time.

Now people say knowledge is power (then ignore their own advice), and it is more of a normal thing. But they considered him a great Vizier, which is basically the King's Sorcerer.

 

[Finshaggy]

Imhotep invented Medicine, Surgery, Columns, Stairs, and the first Pyramid.

 

[Finshaggy]

I think our time line on earth might be skewed and there's been a few different time periods of great civilizations on earth, dating back further than we believe now. There are believed to have been at least a couple of near extinction events where maybe only a few thousand people, possibly less, survived worldwide. We've found 10-20,000 year old sites buried under 10,20,30+ feet of earth. The way the earth recycles, there wouldn't be anything left of a 50,000+ year old civilization, or it's buried so deep now, we'll only find it by chance through mining, or some other intra-terrestrial activity, possibly. And that's only if they built great stone structures that survived.

Look at our society today, how much would be left in 10,000 years. Even the majority of our modern built granite and marble buildings will just be piles of stone by then. I could see people in the far future, finding the remnants of a suburban neighborhood. Nothing but buried foundations, possibly with artifacts, thinking is a tomb system or something, if all our culture had been lost

I don't think we have ever been in the Steam age, or the Electric age, or the Nuclear age before. But I do think that the world has been an International place a few times in the past 70,000-100,000 years, and over the past 3000-4000 we have had the longest period of International contact ever.

 

[Finshaggy]

The same Romans that killed Jesus established Christianity, and everyone thinks it is 2016 now. But if Civilization started 2016 years ago, that puts the beginning of Civilization about 200 years into the Roman Empire. Lol

 

[WeedFreak78]

I don't think we have ever been in the Steam age, or the Electric age, or the Nuclear age before. But I do think that the world has been an International place a few times in the past 70,000-100,000 years, and over the past 3000-4000 we have had the longest period of International contact ever.

I've always questioned time lines and dates. Our whole knowledge of earth's, and man's, history is just a theory once you go back before written history, and it's not that far, as far as the numbers are concerned. There could have been a civilization as advanced as ours, or more, but maybe not as populous, a couple hundred million years ago, they got wiped out and everything restarted and we'd never know. We've found Ancient cultures writings we've been able to decipher that has descriptions of events we write off as magic, or sorcery, but I think there's a good possibility it's lost technology. If we go with the accepted belief earth is around 4.5 Billion years old. ..lots of stuff could have happened ands been wiped clean.

 

[WeedFreak78]

The same Romans that killed Jesus established Christianity, and everyone thinks it is 2016 now. But if Civilization started 2016 years ago, that puts the beginning of Civilization about 200 years into the Roman Empire. Lol

The Chinese don't.

 

[Finshaggy]

I've always questioned time lines and dates. Our whole knowledge of earth's, and man's, history is just a theory once you go back before written history, and it's not that far, as far as the numbers are concerned. There could have been a civilization as advanced as ours, or more, but maybe not as populous, a couple hundred million years ago, they got wiped out and everything restarted and we'd never know. We've found Ancient cultures writings we've been able to decipher that has descriptions of events we write off as magic, or sorcery, but I think there's a good possibility it's lost technology. If we go with the accepted belief earth is around 4.5 Billion years old. ..lots of stuff could have happened ands been wiped clean.

You mentioned numbers, I know you mean in terms of years, it only took like 5,000 years to progress from the very very very beginning of what we call Ancient Egypt to get where we are today, so with all that time before that, there could have been another culture that had 5,000+ years to make similar advancements, it just hasn't been discovered yet if it exists, and there is no record of it unless you consider the massive ships, and sky wars in the various Religious texts to be about an Ancient Civilization that was advanced, but there would be some kind of remnant of it somewhere, so since no one has found anything yet we can't just assume that it did happen.

I'm not saying it's not possible, but you can't start with a conclusion and work from it. You have to start neutral, and then draw conclusions from what you can actually see.

 

[Finshaggy]

The Chinese don't.

True, still not a 100,000 year or 1,000,000 year Calendar or anything like that though.

And to add to this discussion, Homo Sapiens weren't even the first species to invent fire or language, and possibly not the first to have domesticated animals.

 

[Finshaggy]

This is why Hinduism is the Religion I have practiced for the past 10 years. You can see some of the Gods directly, and most of them can be seen indirectly.

Everyone thinks all Religion is the same, but for example while Christians want to get to an Afterlife, and be Buried. Hindus are Reincarnated and Cremated.
The Christian texts suggest around 6,000 years of History in the Universe.
The Hindu Texts suggest Billions of Years, and even cycles of years, like a wheel.

Hinduism can be seen to be True, Christians have to have Faith. Hindus have Faith too, but you can see the Hindu Gods.

 

[Finshaggy]

Another Example, Surya is the Sun. Agni is Fire. Both are seen to create light, Agni is considered the messenger of the Gods. That is why people are Cremated, to send them up to be Reincarnated.

Then there are Gods like Shiva. You can't actually see Shiva, but he can be seen in people Dancing, or in Marijuana users, or in people who Meditate.

 

[Finshaggy]

Then there are correlations to Ancient Egyptian Religion, which is still practiced today by the British Monarchy. Ra is the Sun, which is represented by the Crown, which is why Crowns look like a Sun made of Gold. And Isis is the Mother, which is represented by the Throne.

And even today the Queens and Kings of England are Coronated on the Stone of Scone, which is thought to be Jacob's Pillow from the Bible. The stone he slept on. It is usually kept in Scotland, but the British had it for a while, but then they gave it back to Scotland and they borrow it when they have to Coronate someone.

 

[WeedFreak78]

This is why Hinduism is the Religion I have practiced for the past 10 years. You can see some of the Gods directly, and most of them can be seen indirectly.

Everyone thinks all Religion is the same, but for example while Christians want to get to an Afterlife, and be Buried. Hindus are Reincarnated and Cremated.
The Christian texts suggest around 6,000 years of History in the Universe.
The Hindu Texts suggest Billions of Years, and even cycles of years, like a wheel.

Hinduism can be seen to be True, Christians have to have Faith. Hindus have Faith too, but you can see the Hindu Gods.

I've always held the Hindu/Buddhist religions in high regard. I think mainly because they dealt more with enlightenment, rather than focusing on life, death, and the consequences, like the Abrahamic religions tend to do. My friend has been reading about esoteric religions lately, they seemed more focused on enlightenment also. I used to really get into this stuff, I've read so much and have so many conflicting ideas in my head now, I've adopted a wait and see attitude and hope I don't get screwed.

 

[Finshaggy]

I've always held the Hindu/Buddhist religions in high regard. I think mainly because they dealt more with enlightenment, rather than focusing on life, death, and the consequences, like the Abrahamic religions tend to do. My friend has been reading about esoteric religions lately, they seemed more focused on enlightenment also. I used to really get into this stuff, I've read so much and have so many conflicting ideas in my head now, I've adopted a wait and see attitude and hope I don't get screwed.

It is because Abrahamic Religions come from the Mountains and the Deserts, so their Religion is all about not getting killed by the Mountain or the Desert, which also provide for them. Other Religions are much more about providing for each other, and sustaining the community.

I saw an article recently about India that said [Paraphrased] "In the Economics 101 question of Bullets V Butter, India has always chosen butter, which is what brought the barbarians in the first place."

 

[Finshaggy]

Like how Egyptians were based around the Nile, they had Mountain and Storm and Desert Gods, but they weren't the main focus, they are always the harshest Gods of any Religion though, look at Native American Religions (like Aztecs or Incas).

Egypt has the Nile, then Hinduism has the Ganges, the Ganges comes from Shiva's hair, and the word Ganja comes from the word Ganges. There are also what are called Shaligram, which is collected in Riverbeds and hold a Religious Significance to worshipers of Shiva. And like I said before, you burn your dead loved ones, I have my brother's ashes around my neck. But it's not like he is in the grave, and rotting. He is free, and we can spread his ashes in various places. And he will come back to the world in another form.

The same as there is no new water on Earth, it is all the same water from 1,000,000,000 years ago. There is no new Energy, Energy can not be made or taken away, it can only turn into mass or another form of energy.

Science and Hinduism are really not at odds at all. It's really just like people brought stuff from India to Europe and the study of it all is the different Sciences of today.

 

[Finshaggy]

And have you ever talked to an Ethiopian Orthodox person? The Bible talks about Ethiopia a lot more than most people realize. Either something will happen in Ethiopia, or someone marries someone from Ethiopia, it is just mentioned a lot in the Bible. And when you talk to them it seems like they are talking about a completely different Religion than Christianity, because they are talking about History and the Bible, instead of extrapolating History from the Bible.

 

[Finshaggy]

And Hinduism makes way more sense for Americans than Christianity. While the Pilgrims were Christian, the entire basis of the Colonies was the East India Trade Company, and even the American Flag's stripes were made to look like the East India Trade Company's Flag.

Then when America started it was just like India. India was the land of Silk and Spices (Ganja + East India Trade Company = Amsterdam), America was the land of Tobacco and Cotton. It was very similar. Then America even created a caste system, and the caste systems in both America and India are no longer a part of the law, but they still effect both countries. And I don't agree with either one, I just recognize what they are. The South (especially Texas, Florida, etc) even use Cattle skulls as almost a Religious symbol.

America is Hindu.