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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Alaric said:
I hope you hurry up and find them------then educate me (us that need it).

My achilles heel in my operation is aero cloning ------thank goodness I have a reliable back up method too.

My quest from the beginning has been the elimination of all medium (except popping seed).

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So far, a capful of bleach has helped knock down the pathogens and I'm madly swapping liter bottles of ice every 2 hours. Clearly I need better temperature control.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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BobBitchen said:
Yea, that sounds like a hassle, I went aero cause I'm lazy and I just plug em and forget em..
Once again I think my location/environment works for me.
Hope ya get it figured out bro
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The temperature of my baby veg zone went up by 5 degrees from just that fuckin Mars Hydro LED light. Thing puts out 550W actual and just gets my whole 6x8' space warm.

I have more COB LED modules coming this weekend, bitch is getting kicked to the curb with the quickness!
 
GroErr

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Just an update on my dialing in of the king cloner. Looks like the 70-75F temps are producing consistently within 2 weeks now. Just about to plant a bunch that have been in for 2 weeks and all rooted. Some bigger/better than others of course but that's pheno-based more than anything. Like my Blue Ripper pheno 2 roots fast and huge roots while my JTR roots but not as thick and fewer offshoots. Looks like I'm back on track, wasn't liking the 3-4 weeks to root I was getting with the colder water and of course much higher than 75F and you can end up with slime. I just cleaned and re-filled it after 2 weeks and nothing but a couple of chunks of roots that came off one when I was pulling them out. No slime or the like. Cheers.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Alaric said:
Never tried the bleach treatment------have you noticed much improvement?

Have you thought about using an inline pump to get your temp down or cycle timer?

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Before bleach; plants flopping over. After; no more slime or soggy stems. I used half a capful for 6 gallons, a little goes a long way.

Using a cycle timer now. The ambient heat in the room is most of the problem.

I use water chilling for everything. The main design hurdle so far has been figuring out how to set it up so the cloner doesn't run TOO cold, LMAO!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bottletoke said:
What led are you going with? Using them with lec?
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I'm using LEC, aka 315W CMH kits using Philips digital LFSW ballasts in my prebloom veg.

I've been using LEC, aka 860W CDM Allstart lamps on magnetic ballasts, for years in bloom. It's these I'm replacing with LED modules. Keep in mind that it's the low frequency square wave ballast technology that allows this lamp technology to run at high efficiency. On standard mags, they suck!

The modules consist of a Meanwell HLG 185H C700B driving 4 Cree CXB3590 3500K CD BIN 72V chips at 54W each. Capping the dimming wires lets the driver run at 108%, or 216W/4=54W apiece. The driver itself needs about 8W, for a Kill-a-watt verified total draw from the wall of 225W.

I have 80 degree glass lenses on every COB, for protection and to tighten the light distribution pattern. This combo is good for 824 PPfD over 6 square feet.

Two of these modules absolutely mops the floor with the Mars Hydro 1600 on its veg setting, pulling an actual 550W. The Mars unit is easily the warmest LED fixture I've ever operated, heating up my small veg zone by easily 5 degrees all by itself.

By comparison, my modules do not contribute heat to the grow space at all. I realize this is an eyebrow raising claim; all I can share is that everyone who's seen them will verify every word I've said to be the absolute truth.

How the fuck else could I be the only one I know who can run 24 of these modules, pulling an actual 5400W, in a 6' wide x 12' long x 8' tall box and have real trouble keeping it WARM ENOUGH?
 
Thorhax

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ttystikk said:
Before bleach; plants flopping over. After; no more slime or soggy stems. I used half a capful for 6 gallons, a little goes a long way.

Using a cycle timer now. The ambient heat in the room is most of the problem.

I use water chilling for everything. The main design hurdle so far has been figuring out how to set it up so the cloner doesn't run TOO cold, LMAO!
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is cooler water is better for roots?
 
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