BestVA X5 1000W = BEST VALUE!!!

Gr8Xcape98

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A few months ago, with the goal of spending less than $300 on a LED grow light, I stumbled across the BestVA x5 1000W.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BestVA-X5-1000W-Full-Spectrum-LED-Grow-Light-For-Medical-Plants-Veg-and-Bloom-/121977348220?hash=item1c666aa07c:g:tK4AAOSwc1FXY7r8

Now I'm no expert, and I'm sure many lights will outperform this light on a watt for watt basis, but so far I am BLOW AWAY by the results! The girls look like they've been dusted with sugar! Check out the below pics from the end of flower wk 6

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Mind you, the light arrived during wk 1 of flower, so the plants have only been under this light for 5wks.

Also, I'm in a small grow tent and was concerned about "LED bleaching", but with the light's dimmable feature bleaching is super easy to avoid.

Just sharing what I think was a damn good find. Is it really 1000 watts - hell no. Is it made in China - hell yeah. Will it last more than one grow - time will tell. Is it making the girls nice and frosty - HELLS YEAH! Pretty impressive results for a $215 investment. Especially when good LEDs can cost over a grand!
 

testiclees

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A few months ago, with the goal of spending less than $300 on a LED grow light, I stumbled across the BestVA x5 1000W.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BestVA-X5-1000W-Full-Spectrum-LED-Grow-Light-For-Medical-Plants-Veg-and-Bloom-/121977348220?hash=item1c666aa07c:g:tK4AAOSwc1FXY7r8

Now I'm no expert, and I'm sure many lights will outperform this light on a watt for watt basis, but so far I am BLOW AWAY by the results! The girls look like they've been dusted with sugar! Check out the below pics from the end of flower wk 6

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Mind you, the light arrived during wk 1 of flower, so the plants have only been under this light for 5wks.

Also, I'm in a small grow tent and was concerned about "LED bleaching", but with the light's dimmable feature bleaching is super easy to avoid.

Just sharing what I think was a damn good find. Is it really 1000 watts - hell no. Is it made in China - hell yeah. Will it last more than one grow - time will tell. Is it making the girls nice and frosty - HELLS YEAH! Pretty impressive results for a $215 investment. Especially when good LEDs can cost over a grand!
Your flowers look nice dude.

I had similarly good looking plants with my Mars 900. Draw was around 500w at wall.
 

Atulip

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OPs eBay link pulls 250w at the wall.

$65 for the 140w 60x5 epi panels(Mars 300 or whatever) is probably the best bang for your buck low efficiency wise.
 

Gr8Xcape98

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Like Atulip said, eBay has it listed as pulling 250W. It's probably not even pulling that much. In fact, I have the dimmer set at about 90% because some buds are pretty close to the light. It runs pretty damn cool though. Cooler than the T-5s I had.

And yeah, they suggest giving the lights a 15-20min break every 6hrs or so. My timer has half hour increments, so they go off for 30min in the middle of the 12hr "lights on" period. Seems like the plants don't even notice.

But these lights are so cheap. For the price they are doing a bang up job.
 

Gr8Xcape98

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What up Dudes and Dudettes,

Just a quick photo follow-up. You can see what the light itself looks like on ebay, but below is a pic of what it looks like when it's on. It's got like a crazy bright, psycho neon pink thing going on. Seems to have great light penetration. As you see in the picture, the lower buds are pretty damn frosty even though they're like a foot and a half down from the top of the plant. And the top buds are just going berserk! FYI - The pic that says "Blue Berry" is actually "Medicann Blue Blood", which is OG Kush x Blue Berry.

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I'm blaming at least some of the stretch on using floros for the first 10 days of bloom. The stretch definitely slowed after a week or so of being under the BestVA, but since I started bloom with floros I can't say for sure how the BestVA impacts stretch. The Super Lemon Haze is by far the tallest, had to super-crop it to keep it at 3ft. The Northern Lights is right at the 3ft mark.

For anyone who cares - Soil is 40% FF OF, 40% FF CocoLoco, 10% EWC, 10% Perlite.
Nutes are AN Iguana Juice Bloom, AN Nirvana, FF Bembe, and a touch of Cal Mag.

:peace:
 
Hey guys,

Been reading these forums for a while now saw this post and decided to sign up and chime in on my experience with this manufacturer. I have now used a number of their products for a few grows of different plants and have even gone so far as to modify the units for improvements :)

They are actually pretty decent overall. Sure they won't compare performance wise to DIY builds or some of the more 'modern' offerings out there but they do compete from a competitive value standpoint. Customer service experience has been very good; spectrum choosing is available and replacements were quickly issued by the manufacturer. For someone new getting into indoor gardening looking for something easy to deal with that works these do just fine.

I disassembled a 800w double-chip unit ( 80 'double 5w' diodes) that drew 176w from the wall. Decent sturdy all metal build and a lot of zip ties holding the wires tightly in place.

Components are 2 generic PC fans (drawing 3-7w) on a generic 12v driver and 4 'TureFull' LED drivers. Specs on the LED driver is 45-70v, 700ma, PFC >98%, Efficency >88%, each driving 1 string of 20 LEDs. Each driver was drawing 42-43W at operating temperature. There are 4 strings in total soldered to a PCB with a generic aluminum heat sink.

Just recently I got some of the BestVA x6 dimmable units so I took one apart. 6 drivers, one for each COB, link here:

http://www.nldriver.com/product/product245.html

Each 'COB' is an array of 64 3w chips. Total draw on the unit from the wall using the dimmer: 7w @ off (just fans), 34w@1%, 57w@30%, 144w@50%, 269w@80%, 313w@100%.

Only light measuring I have access to is for lumens, which doesn't mean much other for reference purposes. Using the silly app on my phone the readings from under center were: 30k+@1", 18k@12", 10k@24" and 4k@48" for the 800w. The BestVA x6 units are showing 30+k (max of app) to a distance of about 30" before dropping into the 20k range.

Spectrum used for the standard units is the same and appears pink/magenta in color. Plants responded well to the light. Leaves grew longer and wider than just under white, appear dark green even when viewed under a 4k Philips A19 bulb I use for general lighting. Anecdotally, plant quality is at least the same as other lighting systems but I think that has more to do with the other growing factors. Just growing your own food makes it taste better.

Those are their standards units. I also got a number of units using whites 3500-4k, 5k and 6k, red, uv and ir monos in different distributions for testing. All seem to be working fine and the ordering process wasn't difficult. From a customization standpoint, if you want to create your own 'light recipe' these present a very viable option.

Modifications.

As I understand, running LEDs 'softer' generally increases efficiency. You have to balance that against total light output, capital costs and consumption costs. Using the information from these forums, it seemed that by increasing my capital costs (more LEDs) to create more light output (over area) while maintaining the same power consumption was an achievable goal. I decided to take one of the 800w units, disconnect two of the 4 drivers, then 'bridged' two strings to run in parallel off one driver. As I understand, running the strings in parallel effectively reduces the current in half to each string so instead of 700ma, they run at 350ma with voltage staying the same.

The 800w now runs at 82-86w from wall and using the lumen app, measures 28k@1", 12k@12", 8k@24", 3k@48". Comparing it to the standard unit, it looks to reduce lumen output by 1/4-1/3rd but only draws half the power. By taking 2 units and modifying them this way, I can theoretically get ~60% more lumen output for the same power usage based on those comparison numbers. I wish I had a proper measuring device for PPFD measures and footprint analysis; maybe I will pick up a lightpassport next.

But yeah, buying 2 units and modifying them will give you better efficiency. It is all about the balance. Overall, these units have performed well for me and have allowed me to try different spectrum for different plants. Also I can change out the COBs and even the PCB panels fairly easily so it does provide a good beginner platform for those considering DiY.
 

Gr8Xcape98

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,

Been reading these forums for a while now saw this post and decided to sign up and chime in on my experience with this manufacturer. I have now used a number of their products for a few grows of different plants and have even gone so far as to modify the units for improvements :)

They are actually pretty decent overall....
THANKS DUDE! You did your research! I didn't know any of that shyt, but it's great info. Glad to hear replacement parts are available and easy to get.
 

Regelize

New Member
Hello guys!
Waiting for this lamp ,and im alredy thinking to upgrade it .
I have ordered non dimeble 1000w.
ThePlantInc idea to remove 2 drivers seems perfect for me,i try to do that.
I was thinking for next grow to change cobs to 3500k
What u think?What cobs fit that setup?
 

Regelize

New Member
Hey
My lamp is doing good , i run it 12h non stop after adding small heatsinks and larger fans.




Im planning to change cobs ,what kind of cobs are good for this drivers???

 

PhotonFUD

Well-Known Member
On each driver you could run 2 36v rated chips. For example, 2 cree 3590s (36v) in series which would put them around 23w each chip for 46w. That's ~4000 lm/chip or 8k lm/driver. With 5 drivers you could run 10 3590s, getting 40k lm for 230w plus power for fans. Should be easy to cool with active cooling.
 

420producer

Well-Known Member
What up Dudes and Dudettes,

Just a quick photo follow-up. You can see what the light itself looks like on ebay, but below is a pic of what it looks like when it's on. It's got like a crazy bright, psycho neon pink thing going on. Seems to have great light penetration. As you see in the picture, the lower buds are pretty damn frosty even though they're like a foot and a half down from the top of the plant. And the top buds are just going berserk! FYI - The pic that says "Blue Berry" is actually "Medicann Blue Blood", which is OG Kush x Blue Berry.

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I'm blaming at least some of the stretch on using floros for the first 10 days of bloom. The stretch definitely slowed after a week or so of being under the BestVA, but since I started bloom with floros I can't say for sure how the BestVA impacts stretch. The Super Lemon Haze is by far the tallest, had to super-crop it to keep it at 3ft. The Northern Lights is right at the 3ft mark.

For anyone who cares - Soil is 40% FF OF, 40% FF CocoLoco, 10% EWC, 10% Perlite.
Nutes are AN Iguana Juice Bloom, AN Nirvana, FF Bembe, and a touch of Cal Mag.

:peace:
thanks for the share . . so that light is like a 600 hps . full spectrum??
 
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