I have a confession...

tekdc911

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were the syrups under the shade cloth as well ? im sure the plants your comparing too were grown in direct lighting
and even indoors you cant skimp on lighting .... if the lights have to get shut off or turned down due to temps regularly you will no doubt see a reduction in yield


i think you might like that sweet tooth the barneys sweet tooth was a easy grower for me killer smoke pretty good yields .... i need to get on the ball and run a few of those for seeds .... no shit the buds looked laminated after being in a bag in your pocket for awhile like you literally saran wrapped each bud
 
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black jesus

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were the syrups under the shade cloth as well ? im sure the plants your comparing too were grown in direct lighting
and even indoors you cant skimp on lighting .... if the lights have to get shut off or turned down due to temps regularly you will no doubt see a reduction in yield


i think you might like that sweet tooth the barneys sweet tooth was a easy grower for me killer smoke pretty good yields .... i need to get on the ball and run a few of those for seeds .... no shit the buds looked laminated after being in a bag in your pocket for awhile like you literally saran wrapped each bud
Nope. They had full sun. Right next to the corn. The one under the shade aren't even get shade any more. I have since uncovered them and they are doing great. But again Ive learn not to get happy until dry and weight in
 

Big smo

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The only problem with low yields is the lack of attention and determination. U have time, it's just about not being lazy. Not trying to cut anyone up but this is all it takes

Personally I own 2 businesses, have 2 young girls and work on average of 10-12 hours 7 days a week. I wake up early, when the kids sleep I head back out. It's a bitch but can be done.

Messing with different strains is a tough one. Stick to something that others religiously do well with, not a one time I saw a guy. Dinafem is a big yielder. Get an easy 2 part nute setup. Add a little extra calmag if your under LEDs.

Another thing is these Mars lights and junk Amazon $100 lights aren't going to pull pounds unless your running tons of them. Lighting efficiency, nutes and just caring for the plants is all it takes.

Took her outside for a photo, day 65 from seed. image.jpeg
 

black jesus

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The only problem with low yields is the lack of attention and determination. U have time, it's just about not being lazy. Not trying to cut anyone up but this is all it takes

Personally I own 2 businesses, have 2 young girls and work on average of 10-12 hours 7 days a week. I wake up early, when the kids sleep I head back out. It's a bitch but can be done.

Messing with different strains is a tough one. Stick to something that others religiously do well with, not a one time I saw a guy. Dinafem is a big yielder. Get an easy 2 part nute setup. Add a little extra calmag if your under LEDs.

Another thing is these Mars lights and junk Amazon $100 lights aren't going to pull pounds unless your running tons of them. Lighting efficiency, nutes and just caring for the plants is all it takes.

Took her outside for a photo, day 65 from seed. View attachment 3725906
I tend to my plants and my garden everyday. I work 40 hours a week. I'm the average grower. And the average grower don't want to spend their whole life tending to plants. If a company says that a strain can do something that's what most people thrive for. If you love autos that's great for you. I don't love anything. I just grow and get rid of that shit. To date I haven't grown anything under my Mars lights. I started a few seeds under them and then I throw them outside. Like I said I'm looking at Dutch passion gear since a lot of people swear they give great weight. From my point when your growing an auto and it puts out under a zip per plant and can't be cloned then you have to start adding up the numbers. ...I never stated autos don't get huge. But what am I doing that have me keep coming up short. I'm not going to keep running the strain if it failed the first time. If I get an ok yield and I know I could do better then that's something I will keep trying. When I grow something that gives me 15 grams and the reason I got the seeds in the first place was because I seen 2 different growers get over 5 zips then that kills my drive for that strain. So for me. The strains I've grown to date have failed
 

HansBud

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not trying to sound like a know it all but you can't just give up on a strain if didn't produce the first time grow it again only do shit different, its not the strain to blame...
 

black jesus

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not trying to sound like a know it all but you can't just give up on a strain if didn't produce the first time grow it again only do shit different, its not the strain to blame...
I keep hearing that. I just watched a few more of the few vids they have on syrup and I wanted to cry. You right maybe I should grow it again and see what I get. But this time I think I would have to use a 20 gallon bucket so that's want be my issue. Half fox farm ocean and half perlite...
 

loftygoals

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The problem with autos is there is no room for error. If everything goes well they can be amazing... but just 1 little error can knock them a couple weeks off schedule which hurts massively. I think it's almost obligatory for a new grower to do a photoperiod strain run just once to get things dialled in. Once you have an idea of what works then doing autos becomes less daunting. Of course there will be people who have done their first grow with autos and smashed great yields but that's not going to be the norm.

For various reasons, like the neighbors fighting, I have had cops within a couple hundred feet of my grow room exhaust.
One time I walked out and asked them to move out of my driveway.
Couple hundred feet? I think a police dog handler lives about 15m away :lol: I've seen a "Dog Unit" squad car parked on the street quite a bit o_O No point panicking, I'm filtered, have no heat sig and give nobody trouble.

So beautiful, man. I really need to get MY ass in gear....I've got the seeds, the $$$ for a setup, the means, and the space....just afraid/hesitant, I suppose....fuckin pigs around here....
Just do it! As soon as I figured I had the $$$, time and space I was off.
 

black jesus

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Hey so I better get started buying my things now. It's hurting me cuz in one vid the guy is saying 5 gallon buckets aren't big enough....so now that means a few bags of soil and one huge bag of perlite. Now I'm wondering if 50/50 soil and perlite is too light. It's between happy frog ocean forest and Kellogg's patio...
 

tekdc911

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Nope. They had full sun. Right next to the corn. The one under the shade aren't even get shade any more. I have since uncovered them and they are doing great. But again Ive learn not to get happy until dry and weight in
maybe youre giving them to much attention in the watering dept. bongsmilie
 

tekdc911

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why not just dig out some of the dirt there and replace it with some good soil / compost that would also get them lower to the ground and be more stealthy
 

Big smo

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unless your plants are massive there is no need for anything larger than 3 gallon. As for the nutes your better off going with ab2 or 3 part system. Makes life easy. As for light u need a lot of it and usually a minimum of 18 hours. If your getting less yield will suffer. I think autos are easy, just understand the way they want it.

I put a seed in a rapid rooter direct into a 7 gallon pot, water only for a week, 24 hours light for 3 weeks. Start feeding my 2 part at week 2 and slowly increase it till I see slight burnt tip. Once week 3 hits I drop it down to 19-5 light. Then just feed and wait for the stretch to finish. Once it finished my nutes have a transition schedule. I do 2 transition feeds then on to the flower feed schedule. I add in calmag, amino acids and Bioweed. Once the plant is nearing the end I do 24 hours of light again. Constantly checking tricomes, once I see 10-20% red I chop it. Lower bud and leaves go into Rso or bubble hash and the big stuff I sell right away. I hear it's good stuff but I don't smoke so I don't have a clue.

I'm only on my 4th solo run, done some others with a group that turned terrible. 6 months of growing and profit was terrible so I went on my own. This is what works for me. Last run I averaged 3-6 oz per plant
 

black jesus

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why not just dig out some of the dirt there and replace it with some good soil / compost that would also get them lower to the ground and be more stealthy
Only problem is I don't know how the sprinklers are ran. I'm guessing around the edge. I like the idea of being lower...
 

black jesus

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unless your plants are massive there is no need for anything larger than 3 gallon. As for the nutes your better off going with ab2 or 3 part system. Makes life easy. As for light u need a lot of it and usually a minimum of 18 hours. If your getting less yield will suffer. I think autos are easy, just understand the way they want it.

I put a seed in a rapid rooter direct into a 7 gallon pot, water only for a week, 24 hours light for 3 weeks. Start feeding my 2 part at week 2 and slowly increase it till I see slight burnt tip. Once week 3 hits I drop it down to 19-5 light. Then just feed and wait for the stretch to finish. Once it finished my nutes have a transition schedule. I do 2 transition feeds then on to the flower feed schedule. I add in calmag, amino acids and Bioweed. Once the plant is nearing the end I do 24 hours of light again. Constantly checking tricomes, once I see 10-20% red I chop it. Lower bud and leaves go into Rso or bubble hash and the big stuff I sell right away. I hear it's good stuff but I don't smoke so I don't have a clue.

I'm only on my 4th solo run, done some others with a group that turned terrible. 6 months of growing and profit was terrible so I went on my own. This is what works for me. Last run I averaged 3-6 oz per plant

 

whitebb2727

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The problem with autos is there is no room for error. If everything goes well they can be amazing... but just 1 little error can knock them a couple weeks off schedule which hurts massively. I think it's almost obligatory for a new grower to do a photoperiod strain run just once to get things dialled in. Once you have an idea of what works then doing autos becomes less daunting. Of course there will be people who have done their first grow with autos and smashed great yields but that's not going to be the norm.



Couple hundred feet? I think a police dog handler lives about 15m away :lol: I've seen a "Dog Unit" squad car parked on the street quite a bit o_O No point panicking, I'm filtered, have no heat sig and give nobody trouble.



Just do it! As soon as I figured I had the $$$, time and space I was off.
I was high when I asked them to move.

I was riding dirty with a guy one time. Flip the turn signal on and make the corner into a gas station. Too late. Like ten police cars.

My buddy freaked and wanted me to dip real quick. I told him no, parked and went inside.

Dipping would've looked suspicious.

Follow simple rules like keeping insurance and tags on your car and all the lights and signals work.

It amazes at the people that get caught doing stupid things.
 

doobie57z

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I grew out 2 dinafem moby dick xxl in late winter, yeilded 4 ozs top grade jarable bud plus 3 ozs of buds too good for butter, but not donation quality. I didnt fim, didnt feed, because thats what I read I should do, lol. I started them in 5 gallon pots, 600 watt hps. had one oz colas that were a pain to light. so I have 2 of those seeds left, when I run them, I have a whole other plan this time for LST and feeding...but both tents are running 12/12 right now
 

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tekdc911

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I don't believe so. I tried to stay as close as possible to once a week with the watering. Even lifted them to check...
i dont normally grow outdoors but when i use buckets indoors i have to water a couple times a week ...... its something simple im sure .... soil could be too dense they like fluffy stuff if its staying wet for a week outside right now that might very well be the issue
 
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SickSickWorld

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Autos I've grown in the past 3 months. All weights fully dried with obsessive top shelf trimming.
All dates from sprouting, seed straight to soil.
Grown in BioBizz Light Mix & Perlite at between 70/30-50/50.
My 3-part nutrients cost £3.

Short Stuff Seeds Tha Shiznit - 69 days
Nearly deaded this one off at 13 days with overzealous low stress training. Snapped main stem, killed vertical growth. She was 8" tall.
15ltr airpot
28.7g

TH Seeds MK Ultra Kush - 82 days
Plant was a joy start to finish, she was a pretty bitch and I loved the way she grew. Only about 14".
15ltr airpot
30.5g

Speed Seeds Blueberry - 66 days
Chopped early, it pissed me off. Read my journal to see my rage. Maybe could have packed on some weight, but fuck this plant.
12ltr smartpot
32.8g

Speed Seeds Northern Lights - 80-suttin.
Latest harvest, hated the smell when she was growing, but since curing smell is fantastic.
12ltr smartpot
56.4g

Minimal experience. Cheap equipment. Rookie mistakes. Temperature issues. Underwatering and limp leaves. Overfeeding and burnt tips.

Quality nugs.
 

bertaluchi

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The two outer plants are Heisenberg from mephisto genetics. Thy gave free seeds away for a comparison grow. They did their work breeding. Only a couple phenos and about all of them looked good no matter the skill of the grower.


https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-vault-comparative-grow-in-association-with-mephisto-genetics-heisenberg-special-autos.899759/

The one in the middle was a xxl amnesia from dinafem. They have a whole line of xxl autos that go around 100 days and get pretty big. It has a cheese smell. Probably the sativa side of it.
You really cant go wrong with the Heisenberg Special. Mephisto is the shit my friend. I'm looking into the Grape Crinkle from Mephisto's Artisanal line. Looks like some really funky smoke it is a cross of Canadian Crinkle Cut x Supernatural (exotic genetix)) x Ripley's OG Automatic. Maybe my next seed purchase
 

whitebb2727

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You really cant go wrong with the Heisenberg Special. Mephisto is the shit my friend. I'm looking into the Grape Crinkle from Mephisto's Artisanal line. Looks like some really funky smoke it is a cross of Canadian Crinkle Cut x Supernatural (exotic genetix)) x Ripley's OG Automatic. Maybe my next seed purchase
I let some of my lowers buds stay a few weeks extra and the Heisenbergs threw nanners. I saved the pollen. I'm going to cross it to another Heisenberg and a couple other autos I have.

I been thinking about crossing it to a c99 to.
 
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