DIY with Chilled PCB's and cxb3590
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spcFLETCH
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This came in last night. Vyperx Plus with Controller. Driven by MeanWell 600w driver (I believe the highest output they make). Well, at least all that mouser sells. Anyway... Blinding light. You will see spots for a long while. 550w draw when hooked up to the kw/meter. My only issue is the dimmer/light controller, which was suggested. It is hooked up to the light by a 3.5mm jack/aux cable. You have to snip off one end to expose the wiring. Eight wires to sort through. 3 wires (red,white,yell) on the aux cable. 5x wires on the driver to figure out which wire goes to which wire. Dangerous for anyone who just wants the light with a controller. At around $1000, the driver should have a female receptacle for the jack.. Just my opinion
I wonder that myself about other companies... sell a 1k watt light but don't make it dimmable... it doesn't do harm, it's about same price, it actually makes it more dynamic. I would love 1000w but can handle only when the weather is colder, in summer maybe I wanna dim to 60%, that will give more efficiency and longer led life.
Very curious to see how hot the unit runs at various points on the units. Especially something close to the leds, Tc
acidking
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This is really unacceptable, the customer shouldn't need to splice wires to make Fluence's products work together. You need to send them an email letting them know that you feel this is unacceptable from a customers perspective, and urge them to better integrate their products. These should be integrated (or modular), not hodge-podged together by the customer.
Thanks for the warning though, I'm planning on getting a few Vyperx Pluses myself, I will kindly refuse the suggestion of getting the dimmers, if they try to push them.
OneHitDone
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What size area are these Vyperx supposed to cover at what intensity?
acidking
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2 VYPRx Plus(es) will give you very intense coverage of a 4x4 area (at 18" above canopy), or excellent coverage of a 4x6 area (at 30" above canopy).
See chart here.
See chart here.
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spcFLETCH
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Yup, considering it is passive, and it's fins are unevenly distributed, it's warranty might cost the company... they may be better off implementing a thermal switch and external control unit.
spcFLETCH
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My honest opinion as of right now... I'd pass... This is completely passive... there are a few things I could say. I want to talk to the company first, and get their perspective. I'll update
Airwalker16
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So these PCBS use Phillips LumiLeds Luxeon. How good are these compared to crees monos? I don't know much about them.
BM9AGS
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Looking over their site most LEDs I saw range between 110-130 lumens per watt. Their cobs were up to 160 high temp 6000k. So.... For perspective cxb 3590 cd at 700ma is about 200 lumens per watt.
http://www.lumileds.com/products/cob-leds
Airwalker16
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I'm talking strictly SmDs. No Cobs by cree. Leds like xp-e xp-g2
ttystikk
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How many watts per COB in this calculation?
BM9AGS
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ttystikk
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Not what I asked. You see, there's two different voltages you can buy your CXB3590 for; 36V and 72V. I happen to have 72V chips and I'm using a C700B driver... which gives me 50W per chip.
Watts is a better comparison because it's the actual power draw of the chip. So how many watts per chip in the example above?
Airwalker16
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Welp, for $270 4 PCBS with multiple reds, deep reds, blues and a few irs, plus the driver and cables, it's a pretty damned good deal, and ill be buying them regardless. They're gonna make my light kick so much more ass I reckon.
spcFLETCH
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@ttystikk better comparison; absorbable amount of light at the same level of consumption. Your thoughts?
Might ask V if he can shed a little light on these diodes for us. Judging by his attention to detail, there is a reason he selected them. I was really only Interested in the performance of the unit in its entirety. Hopefully growmau5 gets his 650w soon so he can offer up his thoughts.
Might ask V if he can shed a little light on these diodes for us. Judging by his attention to detail, there is a reason he selected them. I was really only Interested in the performance of the unit in its entirety. Hopefully growmau5 gets his 650w soon so he can offer up his thoughts.
Airwalker16
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@Growmau5 plans on buying one of Vitalys 650W units? Is that 12 (4x3 horz/vert ducted, water cooled) of them? At 50w ec, isn't that 13?