Bulletproof_Love
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My bottom leaves are dying and falling off. Should I wait for the top ones like yours?
55 days into flower. So stoked.
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Ewwstank
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Now now, that wasn't a personal jab at you friend - or anyone else on the site. Until we have exact scientific testing done, a lot is personal experience. As I said before though - to each their own! My methods may not work for you and vice versa, but in the end as long as we get a nice harvest and good smoke ..? That's why we're all here, right?
To flush or not to flush is another hugely debated topic here - ask 100 members and many are for and many are against it. But if person a flushes and person b doesn't and they both get what they wanted? More power to each!
Bulletproof_Love
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I flushed for two weeks. the tips got a tiny bit yellow toward the end which to some would SUGGEST the early signs of nute burn. It's a good thing I was flushing anyways.Now now, that wasn't a personal jab at you friend - or anyone else on the site. Until we have exact scientific testing done, a lot is personal experience. As I said before though - to each their own! My methods may not work for you and vice versa, but in the end as long as we get a nice harvest and good smoke ..? That's why we're all here, right?
To flush or not to flush is another hugely debated topic here - ask 100 members and many are for and many are against it. But if person a flushes and person b doesn't and they both get what they wanted? More power to each!
SPLFreak808
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That plant had n/p/mg deficiency from severly under-feeding, a very bad mistake. Post a pic of your yellowing?
Bulletproof_Love
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No that's a good thing ( I think) Bottom leaves falling off is a sign of the plant reaching the end of its life cycle. the top ones are just fine.
Ewwstank
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Usually the plant will start focusing on the buds and neglecting the lower leaves from what I've seen and read (this is the end if it's life cycle and it's biological clock is ticking. It really wants to pass on its genes so it puts more effort to make those flowers as appealing as possible), but it's never a bad idea to check the feeding schedule. I personally flush as well, but only for the last 3 days or so before I harvest. Again though to each their own
cat of curiosity
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there are a thousand ways to do any one thing, but only eighty seven of them work.Now now, that wasn't a personal jab at you friend - or anyone else on the site. Until we have exact scientific testing done, a lot is personal experience. As I said before though - to each their own! My methods may not work for you and vice versa, but in the end as long as we get a nice harvest and good smoke ..? That's why we're all here, right?
To flush or not to flush is another hugely debated topic here - ask 100 members and many are for and many are against it. But if person a flushes and person b doesn't and they both get what they wanted? More power to each!
all new growers work to invent the wheel, and that is encouraged. as with any plant, location is a major part of plant health, so what works for one will not work the same for one other.
test it, get in the goldielocks zone, and let experience be your voice.
just don't try to re-invent the wheel. round works the best, although squares and triangles will still get you there (albeit with more bumps along the way)
cat of curiosity
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one old saying goes, "if you think it's done, wait a week"
good advice.
have you guys ever had 'over-ripe' pot?
it is possible, but takes MONTHS. don't harvest too early. you will be impressed by doubling your yield and potency.
good advice.
have you guys ever had 'over-ripe' pot?
it is possible, but takes MONTHS. don't harvest too early. you will be impressed by doubling your yield and potency.
SPLFreak808
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I used to think that, except my weight and quality has gone up ever since i stopped under-feeding and flushing. One of the most important things i have learned about growing cannabis is to try both ways for yourself, mostly because the real cannabis science is hidden by pseudo-science from being illegal for so long. Dont let "grow weed.com" tell you how it works, instead stick to horticulture books like "teaming with microbes"/"teaming with nutrients".
Bulletproof_Love
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How much does pot ripen each day? like a micro amount? I'm afraid there will be a tiny window of oppurtunity for harvest where there will be a rapid decay of the plant right afterward. You know how you buy a bunch of bananas its green for like a week and bam over the course of like 2 days its rotten?
Bulletproof_Love
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The whole darkness before harvest thing seems more plausible than it is placebo.
Some good quotes from other threads about the matter:
"The Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmacies of Holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboratories and the University of Leiden.
One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency. SIMMs growers separated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darkness for 72 hours before cutting and drying. Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen an increase of THC of up to 30% (NOTE: I might call BS on the 30% THC level
, but after all, it is the Dam so they probably know what they're talking about), while CBD and CBN remained the same."
Its strain dependent. Even if you don't want to beleive, it's good to let the plant in darkness for about an hour to let the starches drop, as they are mobile.
The reason thc production increases in the dark period is because that's when the plants produce it simply put. Thc is used by the plant like sunscreen, since the thc head is similar to a drop of water in appearance, it refracts sunlight (mainly uv rays) away from the plant.
Then during the day the thc degrades in the sunlight due to uv-b mainly. So the theory is that if you extend the dark period at the end with no light to damage the thc, the plant will produce more.
"the science behind the dark period would be to stop chlorophyll production as the chloroplasts convert light into the green color of the leaf.
nearing the end of harvest ppl tend to want to have a cleaner smoke and therefore flush plants to get rid of as much chlorophyll as they can and bring out a better smoke.
the answer is in the taste of the bud.
TL;DR?
1) The dark period is when the plant creates resin in order to shield itself from light during the day time. More resin means more cannabinoids. By "killing" the plant during an extended night period, it will theoretically have produced resin to protect itself from a day that will never come.
2) Light makes the plant undergo photosynthesis. The process of converting light energy into sugars for the plant to use is what makes the plant grow. By stopping the process, it is thought that the cure and dry will be better because the buds will be less "grassy" and "hay like" during that time since the chloroplasts are inactive and not producing chlorophyll.
Some good quotes from other threads about the matter:
"The Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmacies of Holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboratories and the University of Leiden.
One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency. SIMMs growers separated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darkness for 72 hours before cutting and drying. Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen an increase of THC of up to 30% (NOTE: I might call BS on the 30% THC level
, but after all, it is the Dam so they probably know what they're talking about), while CBD and CBN remained the same."Its strain dependent. Even if you don't want to beleive, it's good to let the plant in darkness for about an hour to let the starches drop, as they are mobile.
The reason thc production increases in the dark period is because that's when the plants produce it simply put. Thc is used by the plant like sunscreen, since the thc head is similar to a drop of water in appearance, it refracts sunlight (mainly uv rays) away from the plant.
Then during the day the thc degrades in the sunlight due to uv-b mainly. So the theory is that if you extend the dark period at the end with no light to damage the thc, the plant will produce more.
"the science behind the dark period would be to stop chlorophyll production as the chloroplasts convert light into the green color of the leaf.
nearing the end of harvest ppl tend to want to have a cleaner smoke and therefore flush plants to get rid of as much chlorophyll as they can and bring out a better smoke.
the answer is in the taste of the bud.
TL;DR?
1) The dark period is when the plant creates resin in order to shield itself from light during the day time. More resin means more cannabinoids. By "killing" the plant during an extended night period, it will theoretically have produced resin to protect itself from a day that will never come.
2) Light makes the plant undergo photosynthesis. The process of converting light energy into sugars for the plant to use is what makes the plant grow. By stopping the process, it is thought that the cure and dry will be better because the buds will be less "grassy" and "hay like" during that time since the chloroplasts are inactive and not producing chlorophyll.
Bulletproof_Love
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The whole darkness before harvest thing seems more plausible than it is placebo.
Some good quotes from other threads about the matter:
"The Stichting Institute of Medical marijuana (SIMM), the first company to sell marijuana through the pharmacies of Holland, has been investigating the medical possibilities of cannabis, together with TNO laboratories and the University of Leiden.
One of their discoveries has been that to keep the ripe plants in the dark before harvesting could increase their potency. SIMMs growers separated a crop of mature plants, harvested half of them and kept the other half in absolute darkness for 72 hours before cutting and drying. Analysis of the resulting dried buds showed that some varieties had seen an increase of THC of up to 30% (NOTE: I might call BS on the 30% THC level
Its strain dependent. Even if you don't want to beleive, it's good to let the plant in darkness for about an hour to let the starches drop, as they are mobile.
The reason thc production increases in the dark period is because that's when the plants produce it simply put. Thc is used by the plant like sunscreen, since the thc head is similar to a drop of water in appearance, it refracts sunlight (mainly uv rays) away from the plant.
Then during the day the thc degrades in the sunlight due to uv-b mainly. So the theory is that if you extend the dark period at the end with no light to damage the thc, the plant will produce more.
"the science behind the dark period would be to stop chlorophyll production as the chloroplasts convert light into the green color of the leaf.
nearing the end of harvest ppl tend to want to have a cleaner smoke and therefore flush plants to get rid of as much chlorophyll as they can and bring out a better smoke.
the answer is in the taste of the bud.
TL;DR?
1) The dark period is when the plant creates resin in order to shield itself from light during the day time. More resin means more cannabinoids. By "killing" the plant during an extended night period, it will theoretically have produced resin to protect itself from a day that will never come.
2) Light makes the plant undergo photosynthesis. The process of converting light energy into sugars for the plant to use is what makes the plant grow. By stopping the process, it is thought that the cure and dry will be better because the buds will be less "grassy" and "hay like" during that time since the chloroplasts are inactive and not producing chlorophyll.
Ewwstank
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Lol first thing I do after cure will be to sit down with some of my personal stash and binge watch breaking bad
Bulletproof_Love
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I'd like to thank everybody for the help that they provided. It's truly a beautiful thing how we can come together as a community united for one cause, which is the cultivation of such a wondrous plant in a society of willful ignorance and institutionalized prejudice against one of mother nature's most splendid creations. You see, plants can form a bond with humanity the way domesticated animals can. In exchange for the nurturing and care provided by mankind, cannabis returns the favor by creating the best and most versatile medicine in the world. Our codependency allows us to proliferate as mankind and plant-kind unite for the sole purpose of survival. A purpose long forgotten due to racism and the fear mongering of an uneducated public. Together we can sustain the existence of cannabis, the way cannabis wants to sustain the existence of man. In other words, together, we can grow.
Bulletproof_Love
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I've come to a decision. After a long and thorough inspection of each and every bud, I have concluded that it is indeed time to harvest. I looked at every trichome and pistil, and from the information that I have accumulated over the past 2 years leading up to this very moment, I can indeed say that to the best of my knowledge and intuition that it is surely the time to do so.
The trich's on the plant are mostly cloudy. The clear ones, I can differentiate because they shine with a glare that is like a diamond in the rough that cuts through the plant matter and the clusters of milky trichs. There are very few of them. About 5%. Another 5% being the amber/golden bulbs that I see so prominently on some of the buds. Upon further examination, I noticed each bud had at least one amber trichome. As well as the majority of pistils being orange and receding a good 80%. If that doesn't shout harvest me I don't know what does.
I'm going to put the plant in the dark for the next two days and then I'll hang to dry.
The trich's on the plant are mostly cloudy. The clear ones, I can differentiate because they shine with a glare that is like a diamond in the rough that cuts through the plant matter and the clusters of milky trichs. There are very few of them. About 5%. Another 5% being the amber/golden bulbs that I see so prominently on some of the buds. Upon further examination, I noticed each bud had at least one amber trichome. As well as the majority of pistils being orange and receding a good 80%. If that doesn't shout harvest me I don't know what does.
I'm going to put the plant in the dark for the next two days and then I'll hang to dry.
Ewwstank
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Pics when you're done?
StoneyMcphatter
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Chop that shit, light that shit and smoke that shit.
Mrjacob274
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How close do you feel these are?
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Bulletproof_Love
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Close enough. I'd look at it magnified though. I'm just going by the hairs