Replacing 5 Year Old Blackstars

somebody1701

somebody1701

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Mine absolutely has UV. Whether it does anything, who knows. But like I said, I was running HID for years and all LED (2 BSs and 2 A51s interleaved) produces more and better bud. I'm not guessing, I'm comparing dry weight and potency. By HID, I meant I was running two bulbs, MH in veg and HPS in flower. Since we aren't running the same lights, your results may vary.
 
In Shape Vet

In Shape Vet

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wellpar off ebay has decent lights, iv used em and they have combo packs 2x for the price your looking at for a single blackstar. havnt broken in almost 2 years. never had an issue. full spectrum and they feel just as sturdy as the apollo. i have they do have some more white led in the mix, however the 400w version does pull a good bit of power. i have a power meter i can plug it into to prove it.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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somebody1701 said:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004E662SA

  • Bands: 6 Band, Red: 630, 660nm, Blue: 425nm, Infrared: 730nm, Ultraviolet: 380nm, White: 12000k
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I have those blackstar lights ,they list them as having UV diodes but do not, I have contacted the manufacturer a few years back about it he told me they are indeed white/blue/red LEDs.

I have two of these

http://www.gothamhydroponics.com/featured-products/lighthouse-hydro-blackstar-240w-led-grow-light-uv-544.html

Shows they have these bands as well
Specifications
  • Size: 15.75" x 8.375"
  • Coverage Area: 3' x 2' (6 Square Feet)
  • LED Chipset: 3W
  • Number of LED's: 80
  • Rated Hours: 40,000
  • Bands: 6 Band
  • Red: 630, 660nm
  • Blue: 425nm
  • Infrared: 730nm
  • Ultraviolet: 380nm
  • White: 12000k
  • Worldwide Voltage: 90v-240v
  • Modular Power Cord (Available in US, UK, EU, AU)
  • Warranty: 1 Year Warranty


However they do not contain UV diodes, if you put it under an UV meter it will read zero.
 
somebody1701

somebody1701

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Interesting. If that's the case, then I haven't had any UVB since I switched to all LED (unless the A51s put it out) and I can't say that I've missed it. I do see a couple of articles stating that UVB can improve THC production by 28%. But you can still find articles stating that cholesterol causes heart disease. Be interesting to hear from someone that supplemented UVB like they did in those articles.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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somebody1701 said:
Interesting. If that's the case, then I haven't had any UVB since I switched to all LED (unless the A51s put it out) and I can't say that I've missed it. I do see a couple of articles stating that UVB can improve THC production by 28%. But you can still find articles stating that cholesterol causes heart disease. Be interesting to hear from someone that supplemented UVB like they did in those articles.
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The new leds that blackstar makes have UV-B they got this little cfl that hangs down. The Amare's and CLW lights also got some T5's for UV-B light.
ION-8-uv-heatsink-elongated-with-spectrum.jpg

They also advertise lights at wattages that are not correct, those 240w UV lights only pull like 190watts and the ion 8 they list as 426w only pulls 165 watts without the cfl dongle on. They grow good plants but are not what are advertised, here some kill a watt readings.
 

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somebody1701

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Based on what I read in those articles, it's hard to imagine that little thing will do much. I've always know the BS's don't draw 240. I bought one of those meters too. Here are my week 9 canopies from my last HID grow versus my first LED. Apologies on the crappy image quality in that first pic. That phone had a shit camera.

HidGrow.jpg LedGrow.jpg
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Yodaweed said:
The new leds that blackstar makes have UV-B they got this little cfl that hangs down. The Amare's and CLW lights also got some T5's for UV-B light.
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They also advertise lights at wattages that are not correct, those 240w UV lights only pull like 190watts and the ion 8 they list as 426w only pulls 165 watts without the cfl dongle on. They grow good plants but are not what are advertised, here some kill a watt readings.
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that "UV" cfl bulb ain't doing shit either................have you tried any top group/bin cobs yet before knocking them? or only the crappy Blackstar and then touting hps's superiority?
 
somebody1701

somebody1701

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Here you can see why it's tedious to work on these:

SoManyScrews.jpg

Here I've bypassed the bad LED:

BypassBadLed.jpg

Here's the light back in action:
BackInAction.jpg

Thanks all for the input. Looks like I won't be buying a new light after all.
 
BigEasy1

BigEasy1

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I've used Black Stars and Area 51's previously. For the last year I've been running an Optic Vero 250. It's the best light I've bought so far.
 
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