Hillary Supporters Want To Repeal 2nd Amendment

mynameisnobody

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no, you gave me NRA propaganda, like a parrot.

if what you said was actually an answer, it would have answered something. but it answered nothing, because mental illness is everywhere,[ You seem to be a carrier and should wear a biohazard suit or at lest a mask and gloves.] and gun violence epidemics aren't.
Mostly just in the hoods.
 

Rob Roy

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Yeah, I was asked a question I hadn't considered before and, thinking aloud I came up with the above.

I see the dilemma

So, guns have been made illegal. An amnesty has passed where people can hand them in and be compensated.

So let's not send armed police to disarm.

If it is known that someone had firearms, can you think of a way that those individuals could be disadvantaged to such a degree that they would rather give up their guns?

Cut off gas, electricity. Remove employment rights ?!?! Again, just riffing, but surely conditions could be created to make people prefer to comply ?

Is it inconceivable that a non confrontational solution could be found?

Obviously if someone is using one then force would be required, but that is about disarming a violent criminal

I appreciate that you are asking questions and engaging in a reasonable manner.

Persuasion using reason seems better to me than using force to take away a persons gun "so they won't use force".

I'm not interested in taking anything which isn't mine, so telling other people how they must live or having government use guns to do it for you violates that principle. As far as how to persuade (peaceful) people to give up their guns, using a gun to do it becomes a contradiction.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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trail of years......
there not Jewish. so lets act like the holocaust was the worst thing to happen to humanity.....fucken biased douchebags
 

Unclebaldrick

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True but zero guns = car bombs
Uh, so if you go look at the police reports for gun violence one by one - you think that if most of the people shooting others would have gone and made a car bomb if they didn't have a gun?

You are really not very smart.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-shooting-violence-20160818-story.html

I want you to tell me where the car bombs would come into play in this article about recent Chicago shootings.

Maybe it is just possible that guns are so easy to get, so easy to use and so easy to conceal that make the actual violence easier. If people had to make a car bomb, or use a knife, or a baseball bat - they might not be killing each other with the frequency that is occurring. I have also never heard of an innocent child half a block away taking a stray baseball bat to the head.

But we won't ever know because the gun lobby has paid the Republicans to pass laws that prohibit studying this question.

I will not miss you in November.
 
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Unclebaldrick

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I agree.

But if you accept the statement that zero guns = zero gun crime....and so far the only person to dispute this misinterpreted what I said

Then it follows...

Fewer guns = less gun crime
No, it doesn't actually follow logically. It may be, and probably is, true. But your logic made a jump.
 

bluntmassa1

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Uh, so if you go look at the police reports for gun violence one by one - you think that if most of the people shooting others would have gone and made a car bomb if they didn't have a gun?

You are really not very smart.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-shooting-violence-20160818-story.html

I want you to tell me where the car bombs would come into play in this article about recent Chicago shootings.

Maybe it is just possible that guns are so easy to get, so easy to use and so easy to conceal that make the actual violence easier. If people had to make a car bomb, or use a knife, or a baseball bat - they might not be killing each other with the frequency that is occurring. I have also never heard of an innocent child half a block away taking a stray baseball bat to the head.

But we won't ever know because the gun lobby has paid the Republicans to pass laws that prohibit studying this question.

I will not miss you in November.
Chicago has guns zero guns means zero guns.

Sure kids have never died from a stray baseball bat but they have died from explosives which are still used to kill people and would be used much more often. A bit like all the bus explosions they had in the UK a few years ago.
 

bluntmassa1

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Uh, so if you go look at the police reports for gun violence one by one - you think that if most of the people shooting others would have gone and made a car bomb if they didn't have a gun?

You are really not very smart.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-shooting-violence-20160818-story.html

I want you to tell me where the car bombs would come into play in this article about recent Chicago shootings.

Maybe it is just possible that guns are so easy to get, so easy to use and so easy to conceal that make the actual violence easier. If people had to make a car bomb, or use a knife, or a baseball bat - they might not be killing each other with the frequency that is occurring. I have also never heard of an innocent child half a block away taking a stray baseball bat to the head.

But we won't ever know because the gun lobby has paid the Republicans to pass laws that prohibit studying this question.

I will not miss you in November.
So you are going to leave with Buck in November?
 

Unclebaldrick

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Chicago has guns zero guns means zero guns.

Sure kids have never died from a stray baseball bat but they have died from explosives which are still used to kill people and would be used much more often. A bit like all the bus explosions they had in the UK a few years ago.
I don't know if you have noticed, but Chicago has plenty of guns.

Can you show me a car bombing in Chicago? How many Chicagoans have died due to car bombings compared to guns?

Stay in school kids - or shut your mouth so that people don't know how fucking dumb you are.
 

bluntmassa1

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I don't know if you have noticed, but Chicago has plenty of guns.

Can you show me a car bombing in Chicago? How many Chicagoans have died due to car bombings compared to guns?

Stay in school kids - or shut your mouth so that people don't know how fucking dumb you are.
I said Chicago has guns dumb dumb. Wow.
 
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