Hillary can't be trusted

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Flaming Pie

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Just stopping in to agree with the thread title.

Being a better alternative than the Chump is really not saying a whole lot, after all.
She's only better than trump by a tiny margin. That margin is due to CNN and MSNBC silencing all criticism of her. Meanwhile they try to find dirt on trump to excuse her misconduct.

15,000 more emails? At this point, what difference does it make?
 

ttystikk

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She's only better than trump by a tiny margin. That margin is due to CNN and MSNBC silencing all criticism of her. Meanwhile they try to find dirt on trump to excuse her misconduct.

15,000 more emails? At this point, what difference does it make?
Irrelevant. What bugs me is how many favors she'll have to repay in return for all those millions of corporate campaign dollars.

My two cents just might not make her agenda...

And neither will yours.
 

Flaming Pie

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America's been screwed, who would have thought
People have been seeing it happen for a while. Nobody cares as long as it doesnt immediately and directly affect them. People who do care will be ostracized by design to squelch opposition.

“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
“Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

^rules for radicals by saul alinksy
 

Flaming Pie

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Irrelevant. What bugs me is how many favors she'll have to repay in return for all those millions of corporate campaign dollars.

My two cents just might not make her agenda...

And neither will yours.
She has been fundraising alot. Has to buy lots of ad space to convince people she is trustworthy.

The american people have not been the number one priority for a while. The 1% will get richer at our expense if hillary is elected.
 

Fogdog

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She has been fundraising alot. Has to buy lots of ad space to convince people she is trustworthy.

The american people have not been the number one priority for a while. The 1% will get richer at our expense if hillary is elected.
If Hillary borrowed $650 million from the Chinese government you would be okay with that?
 

Fogdog

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Citation of borrowing directly from chinese government?
Just asking, for the sake of argument, you are obviously bothered by Hillary's fund raising and influence that it buys. I'm just wondering what you would think if Hillary owed hundreds of millions to a foreign power, China for instance, through their bank.
 

Flaming Pie

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Just asking, for the sake of argument, you are obviously bothered by Hillary's fund raising and influence that it buys. I'm just wondering what you would think if Hillary owed hundreds of millions to a foreign power, through their bank.
It could be bad. We will have to see how this shakes out as it appears the story only appeared on NYT.

Hillary owes many people through the clinton foundation tho. Even liberal leaning media wants her to shut the foundation down.

Now we are seeing that donors received preferential treatment at sos and that her top aids were in constant contact with CF.

Not cool.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CAMPAIGN_2016_CLINTON_FOUNDATION?SITE=AP

Some of the videos i posted today had CNN even talking about it. She can't hide much longer. There will probably be a leak every week for her team to attempt to mop up.
 

Fogdog

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@Fogdog

You can ask me anything. I am not afraid to answer. Holy shit it is 2 in the morning.

This vape pen is awesome!

To be continued.
Its eleven pm here. But it is time to put it to rest. Busy day tomorrow. So many people to offend, so little time.

Trump is in debt to China to tune of hundreds of millions, if not a billion dollars. Just checking on your double standard for him. It's my guess he could sacrifice a baby in a Satanic ritual and you'd blame it on Hillary.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/20/just-new-york-times-drops-trump-bombshell-uncovers-massive-debt/

For example, an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial institution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

The Chinese government owns more than 65% of the voting shares of the BOC. Not worried about a conflict of interest are you?
 

bluntmassa1

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I love it when Republicans argue we dont need welfare because of charities, and then attack the head of a non-profit that does demonstrably good work.
Most all charities are not good for anyone sure some rice may get shipped to those in need but only a small fraction of the donated money goes to the actual charity.

I also said nothing against welfare I'm all for children eating and having a roof over there heads no matter how much of a piece of shit their parents are.

But can you show me exactly how much money the Clinton Foundation takes in and how much of that money goes to the people in need?

Saudi Arabia won't take any Syrian refugees they did not give the Clinton Foundation millions out of generosity.
 
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