Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

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Heisenberg

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"A Sealion is a person who, when confronted with a fact that they don't care to acknowledge, will ask endlessly for "proof" and insist that it is the other person's job to stop everything they are doing and address the issue to their satisfaction.

Sealioning is not predicated upon any implicit understanding of public/private space, but upon the premise that the asker is "sincere" and therefore all resources possible *must* be immediately diverted to teaching them, immediately. The resources that they could, with minimal effort find, are not the issue. They demand attention - your attention. All of it. RIGHT NOW. And they have no intention of listening, because it's your job to make them understand. It is a specific form of harassment. You may not look away, or point them to a link. You must spend all your time and energy. This isn't a sincere attempt at anythinging. It's a calculated technique to grind an opponent down."

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https://www.quora.com/What-is-sealioning
 
Mellowman2112

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cat of curiosity said:
so the gravity thing. i explained why it's necessary. flat or round.

what's your take?
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Why would it be necessary, think about it, how many pounds of air pressure is pushing down on you, 18 lbs per square inch. Keeps you and anything heavier than air stuck to the plane that does not move. No need for gravity.
 
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zeddd said:
It's mathematically absolutely expected and observed, this observation is recorded daily and confers with the maths, science is tight, show me how the maths doesn't work, using maths ( math)
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Sure, I already did before but here goes again. The photo was taken across the lake 60 miles away---around 90 kms.chicago-60mi1.jpg Metriccurvature.jpg
 
Mellowman2112

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Heisenberg said:
"A Sealion is a person who, when confronted with a fact that they don't care to acknowledge, will ask endlessly for "proof" and insist that it is the other person's job to stop everything they are doing and address the issue to their satisfaction.

Sealioning is not predicated upon any implicit understanding of public/private space, but upon the premise that the asker is "sincere" and therefore all resources possible *must* be immediately diverted to teaching them, immediately. The resources that they could, with minimal effort find, are not the issue. They demand attention - your attention. All of it. RIGHT NOW. And they have no intention of listening, because it's your job to make them understand. It is a specific form of harassment. You may not look away, or point them to a link. You must spend all your time and energy. This isn't a sincere attempt at anythinging. It's a calculated technique to grind an opponent down."

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https://www.quora.com/What-is-sealioning
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If you are making outlandish claims that we are blasting with the sun through the universe at 670000 miles per hour while spinning around at the equator at 1038 miles an hour, yes I need to see proof before I will believe that. Why would you be ground down just show us some proof, as I have provided plenty to support my position.
 
Mellowman2112

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HandyGringo said:
I agree with your point about people shouldn't resort to name calling and insults. But I assume you're trolling about the whole flat earth thing.
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Absolutely not, I thought it was crazy myself until I actually considered it for a few hours. Look at the trig table above, that is absolute proof, Chicago should be below the curve of the earth from across the lake. The math is the math. Yet we see Chicago in it's entirety.
 
Mellowman2112

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cat of curiosity said:
he never replied when i spoke of gravity...

the rundown?

if you are on a flat plane, you still need a force to hold you to that flat plane. a flat plane would have to move continuously upward for you to have a feeling of being grounded. no gravity or other force to hold you to the flat plane, and you float. forever. do any walking today @Mellowman2112 ?

same for a ball. lets picture it as you have; a basketball on a flat plane. the basketball would not have it's own gravity, but you would still need gravity to balance on that ball.

otherwise, you would FLOAT.

i have explained gravity more than once to you, you say gravity doesn't exist.

prove it. why don't you float, flatty?
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I've replied to your and Newton's fantasy about a zillion times already.
 
Mellowman2112

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SunnyJim said:
Your observations don't need to prove anything to me, they need to help prove something to you though. Why would you need to see the Earth in its entirety? Surely the fact that your colleagues' weather balloon experiment didn't show the edge of the flat Earth in any direction should tell you that there might not be an edge to film.



You're welcome to disagree, but that only highlights the fact that you've never had the opportunity to be aboard a Concorde at cruise altitude. The pilots pointed out the curvature. 180 degree view from the cockpit if you asked politely to take a look.

This leads me to my next question - have you ever been on a plane in flight? The next time you board a plane, ask the pilot(s) if the Earth is flat and how they navigate the sky. Are all pilots habitual liars and part of the 'spheroid Earth' conspiracy? They would have to be, and they would be lying to all passengers about the flight path the plane was taking each and every journey. Why would you get on a plane and trust pilots who are part of a global conspiracy to keep you from the flat Earth truth? Seems foolish. Seems fucking crazy, actually.



Why didn't your colleagues float the balloon near one of the edges of the flat Earth to get a good look beyond it? Watching the video link you posted, it seems to me that the balloon is 'centered' at all times with the Earth below. Why is that? Why didn't they take a boat to nearer the 'edge' and release the balloon there? They could have blown the conspiracy wide open. Did you suggest it? If not, why not? Were your colleagues trying to prove the flat Earth model by filming from such a height, or was it another experiment they were conducting?
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Obviously you have never been in a Concorde, but the x 15 flies much higher, notice the flat horizon on several shots from the airplanes window.
 
Mellowman2112

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SunnyJim said:
What if you saw the curvature of the Earth? Wouldn't that be conclusive?

Back in the 80s, if you (or your parents) had any money, you could've taken a flight on Concorde. They always used to let kids into the cockpit. Distinctive curvature at 60,000 ft on a clear day.

Since that's no longer possible, you could buy a weather balloon and a sweet camera, get a permit for the balloon, attach the camera to the balloon, start rolling, and release the balloon. Calculate where it will land and go check the footage. Hopefully that will be conclusive enough for you.

Mellowman can't perform this test because the allowance he receives from his boyfriend is insufficient to purchase the necessary tools.
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Here is some balloon footage for ya.

 
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zeddd said:
Ffs still going, explain acceleration g, flat earth rising would be linear velocity no possibility of acceleration
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That flat earth rising to produce gravity is a shill site, the flat earth society in order to discredit the movement. Reddan is correct.
 
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reddan1981 said:
Have you seen Chicago across lake Michigan, personally? What if..... we are on a misshapen ball, with multiple flat areas? To be completely open minded about what is possible, is a good thing. But when you place absolutes (on second hand information) subjects we will never likely be able to verify, is just swinging from one lot of dogmatism to another.
For instance, the rectilinear experiment showed that there is a slight incline not that the surface was flat, if you place a magnet in water it repels the water, you can actually see an inclined curve against the edge of the magnet, showing that water can curve. I can go on, but I'm afraid it will land on deaf ears. I have been talking about flat earth on this site for a couple of years now, before it even went mainstream. When I say neither has been proven conclusively that is because, there are many questions yet to be answered, in all likelihood it will never be proven, maybe it's secret is part of the construct, of this life we face. What we know is that there are anomalies to accepted theories.
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These observations are innumerable, Check out Samuel Rowbotham, he made 50 or more of such observations disproving the ball theory.
 
Mellowman2112

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reddan1981 said:
Have you seen Chicago across lake Michigan, personally? What if..... we are on a misshapen ball, with multiple flat areas? To be completely open minded about what is possible, is a good thing. But when you place absolutes (on second hand information) subjects we will never likely be able to verify, is just swinging from one lot of dogmatism to another.
For instance, the rectilinear experiment showed that there is a slight incline not that the surface was flat, if you place a magnet in water it repels the water, you can actually see an inclined curve against the edge of the magnet, showing that water can curve. I can go on, but I'm afraid it will land on deaf ears. I have been talking about flat earth on this site for a couple of years now, before it even went mainstream. When I say neither has been proven conclusively that is because, there are many questions yet to be answered, in all likelihood it will never be proven, maybe it's secret is part of the construct, of this life we face. What we know is that there are anomalies to accepted theories.
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Consider this, lift a bucket of water, notice how heavy it is? Now something strong enough to hold the water on a ball, with oceans miles deep of water, that gravity would have to extremely powerful right? Wouldn't it be impossible for the fish to swim around with a gravity that strong? Gravity that strong would make paste out of us. We would be like bugs splattered on a windshield. This gravity thing is nor very logical. It does not hold up to scrutiny.
 
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