Boutta switch to led in my tent

Rahz

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Y would anyone in their right mind pay that much for a single light for such a little space im sure a 400mh would blow that away.. my plants grew like monsters
For a 3x3 cloner I wouldn't use more than 150w of LED. The T2-2100 would do the job.

Also, why people think it's necessary to use high K lights for veg I don't know. Anyone will be hard pressed to provide me with a real world example of 3500K doing a "bad" veg, or a 4000K doing it better.
 

coreywebster

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Goes back to mh vs hps colour spectrum I suppose. Old knowledge burnt into our minds.
These Cobs seem to have great spectrum all round.
 

Jerseykushface

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For a 3x3 cloner I wouldn't use more than 150w of LED. The T2-2100 would do the job.

Also, why people think it's necessary to use high K lights for veg I don't know. Anyone will be hard pressed to provide me with a real world example of 3500K doing a "bad" veg, or a 4000K doing it better.
Can u illiterate better led is foreign language to me lol
 

sixstring2112

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I thought you were saying you have a journal here not just that video lol.you should tell us more details about your lighting and other setup ect.if your running multiple 1000w hps i would say keep vegging until the first screen is full.
 

sixstring2112

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But ask ass wanker,he will probably have a better answer lmao
We should have some type of thread called ask asswanker and aw can just answer everything hahahaahahah
 

Jerseykushface

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I thought you were saying you have a journal here not just that video lol.you should tell us more details about your lighting and other setup ect.if your running multiple 1000w hps i would say keep vegging until the first screen is full.

Dude i clearly have a journal and if you look at most of my post on any forum i add my YouTube along with my pics so idk what u mean
 

sixstring2112

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Dude i clearly have a journal and if you look at most of my post on any forum i add my YouTube along with my pics so idk what u mean
Oh you have a journal here at riu? I didnt know.i dont want to try and find it now on my phone because the pages load slow where im at.I'll check it out when i get home maybe.
Dont be a dick because i haven't seen every journal here at riu lol.
 

sixstring2112

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Is this your journal? Im super baked so i just figured it was another on maybe in a dif section,like not in the led section
 

Rahz

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Can u illiterate better led is foreign language to me lol
The T2-2100 is a 150w lamp, and will provide about 410 PPFD in a 3x3 which is plenty for veg and more than plenty for cloning. As far as the K comments, any of the warm white LEDs will do a great job vegging plants. As mentioned 2200K HPS might not be the best color temp for a dedicated veg light but 3500K LED is a different animal. Even low CRI 3000K LED provides veg results that are hard to argue with.
 

Jerseykushface

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Oh you have a journal here at riu? I didnt know.i dont want to try and find it now on my phone because the pages load slow where im at.I'll check it out when i get home maybe.
Dont be a dick because i haven't seen every journal here at riu lol.
Lol my bad dude yea i do u should check it out n tel me what u think i try to go really in depth with the videos n short n simple w the pics n post on by journal
 

Evil-Mobo

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The T2-2100 is a 150w lamp, and will provide about 410 PPFD in a 3x3 which is plenty for veg and more than plenty for cloning. As far as the K comments, any of the warm white LEDs will do a great job vegging plants. As mentioned 2200K HPS might not be the best color temp for a dedicated veg light but 3500K LED is a different animal. Even low CRI 3000K LED provides veg results that are hard to argue with.
The only reason I recommended more light to him was because (unless he made a typo) he stated "33" plants in there to veg.......... that's crowded in a 3x3, so you want to make sure you have enough light penetration to handle this.

I will leave the color temp alone as we have different views there. I'm not saying 3500K won't veg a good plant, but I will say once you have a clear vision on your own grow setup I feel it better to have a light for a specific task and not one that does everything. Of course everyone can't do this limited by space etc but clearly not the issue for the OP.
 

Jerseykushface

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The T2-2100 is a 150w lamp, and will provide about 410 PPFD in a 3x3 which is plenty for veg and more than plenty for cloning. As far as the K comments, any of the warm white LEDs will do a great job vegging plants. As mentioned 2200K HPS might not be the best color temp for a dedicated veg light but 3500K LED is a different animal. Even low CRI 3000K LED provides veg results that are hard to argue with.
Like this but alil more full
Your saying the t2-2100?
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Jerseykushface

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The only reason I recommended more light to him was because (unless he made a typo) he stated "33" plants in there to veg.......... that's crowded in a 3x3, so you want to make sure you have enough light penetration to handle this.

I will leave the color temp alone as we have different views there. I'm not saying 3500K won't veg a good plant, but I will say once you have a clear vision on your own grow setup I feel it better to have a light for a specific task and not one that does everything. Of course everyone can't do this limited by space etc but clearly not the issue for the OP.
I concur Haha
 

Rahz

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410 PPFD provides pretty robust vegetative growth. I don't think clones will have a penetration problem, but even if vegging larger plants it wouldn't be a bad thing.

As far as veg, I understand your point of view but the whole red/blue thing needs to go the way of the dinosaur. I would be open to some proof that high K led is better for veg than warm white, but on principal alone it doesn't make sense. The whole point of using MH was to boost 450nm. As long as the blue levels are in the 12-15% area it always makes sense to invest the rest of the photons into the band that is more likely to promote a photosynthetic response, 580-680nm. A 6000K emitter provides a lot more blue than is necessary and there is more light dedicated to the 480-580nm band, which doesn't make sense.

Eventually there will be a point where the concept of two different sources for veg and flower is considered history.
 
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