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Rob Roy

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When you open a place of business that is open to the public, well that means ALL. No one forces you to open a place of business that serves the PUBLIC.
Sorry that you hate civil rights, but it is here to stay. Be happy your son will benefit from it

I would never want my son to force a person to make him a cake.

If a person doesn't want to associate with him, he has no right to make them associate with him, just like they have no right to force him to associate with them.

His recourse isn't to use offensive force to create an interaction, he does however have the right to use defensive force to repel an unwanted use of offensive force against him or his property.

Human interactions should be on a mutually voluntary basis or they shouldn't occur. You and rapists take issue with this idea though.
 

londonfog

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Whats wrong with freemasons?
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. JFK
 

londonfog

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I would never want my son to force a person to make him a cake.

If a person doesn't want to associate with him, he has no right to make them associate with him, just like they have no right to force him to associate with them.

His recourse isn't to use offensive force to create an interaction, he does however have the right to use defensive force to repel an unwanted use of offensive force against him or his property.

Human interactions should be on a mutually voluntary basis or they shouldn't occur. You and rapists take issue with this idea though.
would you want you son refused service at a restaurant, drug store, hospital, hotel...etc.
We know the answer to this has to be NO. So your argument is void
 

Rob Roy

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would you want you son refused service at a restaurant, drug store, hospital, hotel...etc.
We know the answer to this has to be NO. So your argument is void
It doesn't matter what I want. It matters WHO owns the thing I want and do they want to make a mutual and voluntary trade with me. If they don't, I have no right to use force to make it happen.

If I WANT to interact with a beautiful woman's pussy and she would prefer I don't... end of story

If I WANT to camp out in your living room and drink all your beer, but you don't want that...end of story

If I WANT to go into your secret vault of ladies underwear you've pilfered from the dryers at your laundromat...you'd probably deny the existence of the vault...erm...never mind...bad example on my part.
 

londonfog

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It doesn't matter what I want. It matters WHO owns the thing I want and do they want to make a mutual and voluntary trade with me. If they don't, I have no right to use force to make it happen.

If I WANT to interact with a beautiful woman's pussy and she would prefer I don't... end of story

If I WANT to camp out in your living room and drink all your beer, but you don't want that...end of story

If I WANT to go into your secret vault of ladies underwear you've pilfered from the dryers at your laundromat...you'd probably deny the existence of the vault...erm...never mind...bad example on my part.
We talking about business open to the public you nitwit. A beautiful woman's pussy is not open to the public, you rapist. My living room is not open to the public. I do share my beer freely, but not to rapist perverts, pedophiles or racist. Bigots I can work with. They can learn.

You would not want your son refused service to business that are open to the public. What kind of Dad are you ?
 

Rob Roy

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We talking about business open to the public you nitwit. A beautiful woman's pussy is not open to the public, you rapist. My living room is not open to the public. I do share my beer freely, but not to rapist perverts, pedophiles or racist...bigots I can work with. They can learn.

You would not want your son refused service to business that are open to the public. What kind of Dad are you ?
No we are talking about property and whether the owner of it has the right to determine the use of it. I say they do.

Further we are talking about if a nonowner has the right to initiate force to obtain a thing or a service from a person who prefers not to interact with the nonowner. I say they don't and using force to obtain something which isn't yours is a form of theft.

A woman "owns" her pussy. If she wants to make it open to the public, a specific other person(s) or keep it all to herself the choice should be hers not someone else.

The same thing applies to your livingroom or any other thing which you own, if it doesn't calling it ownership is the wrong term to use.
 

londonfog

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No we are talking about property and whether the owner of it has the right to determine the use of it. I say they do.

Further we are talking about if a nonowner has the right to initiate force to obtain a thing or a service from a person who prefers not to interact with the nonowner. I say they don't and using force to obtain something which isn't yours is a form of theft.

A woman "owns" her pussy. If she wants to make it open to the public, a specific other person(s) or keep it all to herself the choice should be hers not someone else.

The same thing applies to your livingroom or any other thing which you own, if it doesn't calling it ownership is the wrong term to use.
So you are cool with your son being refuse service at a business open to the public base on his sexual preference.
 

Rob Roy

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We talking about business open to the public you nitwit. A beautiful woman's pussy is not open to the public, you rapist. My living room is not open to the public. I do share my beer freely, but not to rapist perverts, pedophiles or racist. Bigots I can work with. They can learn.

You would not want your son refused service to business that are open to the public. What kind of Dad are you ?

I'm the kind of dad and grandfather that teaches his family not to force other people to interact with them. What kind are you?

I would not want them to use force to make others choice for them. Why do you teach your kids that's acceptable?
 

Rob Roy

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So you are cool with your son being refuse service at a business open to the public base on his sexual preference.

No, I'm not cool with gay bashing, racists etc., but that is beside the point.

I'm not cool with lots of things other people chose to do, my not being cool with something does not grant me the right to use force to make a person do what I wish they would with their own property though, unless that person is trying to force me in some way.

I am not cool with people who force others to interact with them, if the other person would prefer not to. Why are you?
 
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