Your Grandpa's Weed or is UV supplementation really needed?

ttystikk

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In a few years flower will be less popular and concentrates like rosin will be what people smoke. Then they won't ask if it's indoor or outdoor.
I don't buy this. Here in Colorado people have access to all the above- and what do you know, they like all different kinds!

By way of personal example, I have access to shatter and rosin that would make your mouth water. I have some, occasionally. The rest of the time I much prefer my flowers.
 

ttystikk

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Mexico is by far the largest producer of Marijuana in the world. If and when they turn their product into oil/rosin and smuggle that instead of tractor trailers full of pressed brick weed that will be a game changer.
And here I thought California was a bigger producer, especially when so many states went legal and stopped being willing to buy pressed ditchweed.

You can't GIVE AWAY Mexican brick here in Colorado, even the hash makers won't touch it.
 

shorelineOG

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I don't buy this. Here in Colorado people have access to all the above- and what do you know, they like all different kinds!

By way of personal example, I have access to shatter and rosin that would make your mouth water. I have some, occasionally. The rest of the time I much prefer my flowers.
I smoke joints and love puffing on a joint. I had never heard of a dab until I moved to Colorado. It is a generational thing and the younger guys have turned me on to rosin and I like it. Most of the South buys billions of dollars of Mexican weed so border security would influence Marijuana prices for sure. Would like to see an end to the smuggling of hard drugs that are harming and corrupting both nations.
 

ttystikk

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I smoke joints and love puffing on a joint. I had never heard of a dab until I moved to Colorado. It is a generational thing and the younger guys have turned me on to rosin and I like it. Most of the South buys billions of dollars of Mexican weed so border security would influence Marijuana prices for sure. Would like to see an end to the smuggling of hard drugs that are harming and corrupting both nations.
No arguments from me.
 

Friction1957

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I smoke joints and love puffing on a joint. I had never heard of a dab until I moved to Colorado. It is a generational thing and the younger guys have turned me on to rosin and I like it. Most of the South buys billions of dollars of Mexican weed so border security would influence Marijuana prices for sure. Would like to see an end to the smuggling of hard drugs that are harming and corrupting both nations.
It will remain diversified consumption. I like single malt, and my neighbor likes PBR. Each will have a place.

Oh and one of the reasons for lower prices for outdoor is the seasonal glut. There are TONS of it available Q4, (Oct to Dec) and availability puts strong pressures on pricing. Additionally much of the outdoor weed is grown in a "plant it and come back in 6 months" grow style. Much of the nurturing that indoor plants receive is not provided in old style outdoor grows. There are some impressive results that can be seen from skilled outdoor growers that work their grows with the same energy and attention that indoor growers do.
 

THE KONASSURE

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Any data on people cutting the protective silicone off of cob chips ?

Just wondering if you get any more deep blues or deep reds when you cut that protective layer off of say a 3000k or 5000k cob chip ?

@RM3 have you got round to any data on x-rays and such I know tube lights like to spit out a few kinds of radiation, also I`ve often thought tube lights must be great for coverage so many lighting angles off them tubes must lead to pretty uniform bud growth, a lot of people lighting top down seem to lose bud size fast as you look down the plant, normally as there lights are a few bright spots over a large area they have the numbers but not spread out....... I find tube lights do spread the light and the heat better I`ll give them that all day long

Sill would be fun to mimic your set up with induction lamps and do a vs........ I think it`d be close if you could get the right induction tubes set up right
 
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Budley Doright

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NICE WORK.

Following directions is a valuable skill, don't ever let anyone tell you differently.

The best cook I've ever met was that good specifically because she could follow a recipe with precision and consistency.

It's a skill I admire because I don't come by it easily; I'm much more a by the seat of my pants kind of practitioner. Very creative, but with the occasional spectacular disaster thrown in, lol
Disasters bring results just hope your still alive to fix it ;).
 

ttystikk

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and clever marketing.
The public are taught that indoor is better.
Bullshit. People know good weed when they see and smoke it.

It will remain diversified consumption. I like single malt, and my neighbor likes PBR. Each will have a place.

Oh and one of the reasons for lower prices for outdoor is the seasonal glut. There are TONS of it available Q4, (Oct to Dec) and availability puts strong pressures on pricing. Additionally much of the outdoor weed is grown in a "plant it and come back in 6 months" grow style. Much of the nurturing that indoor plants receive is not provided in old style outdoor grows. There are some impressive results that can be seen from skilled outdoor growers that work their grows with the same energy and attention that indoor growers do.
This is more like it.
 

Michiganjesse

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Very
Finally, researchers appear to have identified the actual pathway of exactly how UVB affects THC production. While the analysis is somewhat technical, we’ll do our best to outline the results below. Ready?

UVB causes damage in plants in much the same way as it damages human skin, and plants created defenses against UVB in the form of a protein called UVR8.

UVR8 is a protein molecule which senses UV, and then “tells” plant cells to change their behavior. Exactly how UVR8 molecules sense UV was recently discovered and is pretty interesting. UVR8 is what chemists call a “dimer,” which simply means that it’s made of two structurally similar protein subunits. When UV light hits the two protein subunits in UVR8, their charge weakens and they break apart. To help visualize this, imagine rubbing two balloons against one another. The balloons will stick together because of a static charge. Now imagine the balloons get rained on. The water takes the static charge with it and the two balloons fly apart. In this example, the balloons are the two protein subunits and the rain is UV light cascading down on the plant cell. After the protein subunits break apart, they head to the cell nucleus to deliver their information.

One of these changes caused by this reaction is very important in your cannabis garden. UV stress stimulates cannabis’ production of chemicals via the phenylpropanoid pathway, specifically malonyl-CoA and phenylalanine. Why is this important? Because cannabis uses malonyl-CoA to make Olivtol, which it in turn uses to make THC. So finally the specific pathway which increases Cannabis potency when exposed to UV light is understood, and we can use this information to our advantage.
knowledgeable
 

Michiganjesse

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I don't buy this. Here in Colorado people have access to all the above- and what do you know, they like all different kinds!

By way of personal example, I have access to shatter and rosin that would make your mouth water. I have some, occasionally. The rest of the time I much prefer my flowers.
Me also
 

Michiganjesse

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I smoked a few hits of some brick weed a few weeks ago ugh nasty but brought back the early 90's as a teen until i got smart and found local growers by 17. I didn't know that stuff still existed. I did like the highs back then. But i always wonder was it the place and time no cares no responsibility just don't get caught or was it the weed. (Mushrooms acid mescaline ) that i remember oh i couldn't touch any of that stuff now a days i would be it off my mind lmfao i was back then.3 Kids a wife business no way could i entertain that stuff.
 

Rob Roy

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My research indicates that there are cannabinoids found in seeded plants that are not found in unseeded plants so there could be an extended entourage effect ? It could also be that the plant gets more serious about protecting the seeds from the UV rays ? There is not a lot of research on this yet but those would be my best guesses as to why it happens.

As for no couch lock, I grow very differently, use a different spectrum, with different lights, different light timings, a sulfur rich medium. I have always (in my thoughts) attributed couch lock to hps lights and 12/12 timing ? But I honestly don't know if it one or combination of all? I actually wanted a couch lock strain for sleep but none I've ever grown have had it and I'm not changin how I grow cause I loves the Grandpa weed 8)
Thanks for the reply. Speaking of the entourage effect. I've seen some multi strain joint mixes that seem to have an increased potency, friends and I have theorized the mixed joints rolled from a heaping tray containing many scraps of different strains might have a wider band of terpenes et al . Of course when baked the theories themselves can be half baked.

If you're looking for some "fall asleep" weed, you might give Herijuana a try. It can be very couch lock.
 

Michiganjesse

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Thanks for the reply. Speaking of the entourage effect. I've seen some multi strain joint mixes that seem to have an increased potency, friends and I have theorized the mixed joints rolled from a heaping tray containing many scraps of different strains might have a wider band of terpenes et al . Of course when baked the theories themselves can be half baked.

If you're looking for some "fall asleep" weed, you might give Herijuana a try. It can be very couch lock.
How does it grow? Is it easy to grow I'm not that good i need easy strain to grow. I like the entourage effect I grow multiple strains throw all the buds mixed up in jars and just grab a jar full to go
 
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