Messed up my schedule no time to cook SS. What other options?

[GreenSanta]

Use more soil, make ur mix not as strong. I ve used fresh SS before (my own recipe) and it always worked out. Use more vermicasting (not some store bought shit, find a farmer...) mix promix, vermicasting and some other mild ingredient, a d tablespoon of dried organic fertilizer like a 4-4-4, 4-8-4 ... whatever u can find, as a top dress.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Alaska veggie and tomato is 4-6-6 and an excellent topdress.

 

[turnip brain]

Visited the local worm and composting biz, got 10 lb of vermicompost with wigglers, 3 cu ft of their compost mix and a gallon of bokashi tea concentrate. Local landscape place had 3/4" lava rock for aeration material, also picked up kelp meal, crustacean meal, and plant tone. Decided to not use much of the plant tone. There is going to be plenty of nutrition in this mix

 

[turnip brain]

Had time today to do the mix:

6 cuft old soil
3 cuft compost
1 cuft lava rock

5 c kelp meal
5 c neem meal
5 c crab meal
5 c plant tone

2 c azomite
around 10 c local mineral silt

12 gal bokashi tea, and about another 5gal H20. The old soil was BONE dry1

Now a quick cook,

I'll mix 1/2 used soil and what I have left of some bagged roots organic soil and 1/2 of the above mix for a buffer when transplanting, and fill the rest of the containers in with the full strength mix. At transplant time, I'll mix in the live worms and vermicompost.

 

[turnip brain]

5 weeks now after transplant. Ended up adding a bit more of the lavarock for aeration as I did the transplanting.

I have been bringing them inside at night for 12/12

(Oh, I only added a minimal amount of the worms and vermicompost. Instead established a new worm bin. Just sewed up my version of a "worm inn" for them last week. The wigglers are doing well!)

Here are a couple of the girls... Looking good!:

 

[turnip brain]

Hmm, zero response... guess my grow sucks.

Whatever, I am happy with the outcome so far and buds are starting to plump up. Thanks to all that offered input on the soil.

 

[GreenSanta]

Hmm, zero response... guess my grow sucks.

Whatever, I am happy with the outcome so far and buds are starting to plump up. Thanks to all that offered input on the soil.

nice plants but veg longer !

 

[Uberknot]

5 weeks now after transplant. Ended up adding a bit more of the lavarock for aeration as I did the transplanting.

I have been bringing them inside at night for 12/12

(Oh, I only added a minimal amount of the worms and vermicompost. Instead established a new worm bin. Just sewed up my version of a "worm inn" for them last week. The wigglers are doing well!)

Here are a couple of the girls... Looking good!:

Bout a pound...

 

[turnip brain]

nice plants but veg longer !

Thanks.

Yeah. Like I said, I got a late start and grew on a whim. Not ideal. I have the same problem of not having time for cooking SS... not enough time. I have to push them to finish before mid September. partly because of frost, partly because I'll be on the road sometime in September through May. Growing season is really short here If I don't start plants in around March indoors. I didn't start these until June

 

[turnip brain]

Bout a pound...

I'm finishing 4. I reckon so.

 

[turnip brain]

Update, buds filling out nicely, leaves starting to fade, very healthy, apparently no deficiencies. I think this soil works well.

Another week or three...

 

[turnip brain]

Getting so close! Really happy with this grow/soil mix. All four bushes:

 

[Orphan Crippler]

Do you add any organic liquid fertilizers as boosters to supplement your grow?

 

[turnip brain]

Only two to three applications of the bokashi mentioned in post 23 and 24, one before flowering, one or two after flowering started. Amounted to less than a cup of the concentrate in total after adding when I mixed the soil before "cooking". There were no apparent problems or deficiencies, I was treating, I just did because I could. I suspect it wasn't even necessary

This has been the least problematic grow I have ever had. In the past I have dealt with nute burn, spider mites, fungus gnats powdery mildew, bud mold. This time, a few leaf chewing insects, but nothing that I had to manage in any way. I think the soil mix had everything to do with it.

Oh, found a live worm on the deck a few days ago. I added worms at last transplant, guess they're still wiggling in there!

 

[Orphan Crippler]

Nice and Congrats those plants look yum.
Ill add this mix of yours to the list of mixes to experiment with : )

 

[Orphan Crippler]

I also think a good deal of your grows success comes from reusing your old soil as the inputs such as bone meal and rock phosphate that are in most mixes will still be available down the road.
Reusing old soil is great.

 

[elfo777]

I also think a good deal of your grows success comes from reusing your old soil as the inputs such as bone meal and rock phosphate that are in most mixes will still be available down the road.
Reusing old soil is great.

Hello I have a question when reusing your soil (not want to hijack your thread, OP; hope you dont mind). Do you reammend it? If you do, how ? Do you just add everything all over again or just reuse it without reammending?

btw your plants look amazing.

One more thing. I only cooked SS for 20 days, and I used it with small plants. The plants did burn a little bit, but all of them look very healthy with a lush green.

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Hello I have a question when reusing your soil (not want to hijack your thread, OP; hope you dont mind). Do you reammend it? If you do, how ? Do you just add everything all over again or just reuse it without reammending?

btw your plants look amazing.

One more thing. I only cooked SS for 20 days, and I used it with small plants. The plants did burn a little bit, but all of them look very healthy with a lush green.

easiest thing to think of is how nature works, in the fall the leaves fall, degrade into macro rich humus/compost, and feed the plant the next year.
problem is, cannabis is smoked, and the detritus is never allowed to go back into the soil, so the easiest, most natural and most effective way is to add fresh compost to the mix each year, mimicking the natural cycle.

 

[elfo777]

easiest thing to think of is how nature works, in the fall the leaves fall, degrade into macro rich humus/compost, and feed the plant the next year.
problem is, cannabis is smoked, and the detritus is never allowed to go back into the soil, so the easiest, most natural and most effective way is to add fresh compost to the mix each year, mimicking the natural cycle.

Thanks but I still don't understand something. People say they reuse their soils because only a small part of nutrients is used. If I reammend with everything that I used (perlite, vermiculite, bone meal, blood meal, guanos, worm castings etc)wouldn't that cause overfertilization ? Using the same quantity of ingredients.

Maybe I should use only half? sorry im new to this.

sry for english

 

[greasemonkeymann]

Thanks but I still don't understand something. People say they reuse their soils because only a small part of nutrients is used. If I reammend with everything that I used (perlite, vermiculite, bone meal, blood meal, guanos, worm castings etc)wouldn't that cause overfertilization ? Using the same quantity of ingredients.

Maybe I should use only half? sorry im new to this.

sry for english

oh no, I am speaking only about adding a compost to the soil after each run.
compost is essentially the same as the detritus that the plant typically would slough off each yr, which in turn degrades back into the soil for the next yr, what we do is mimick to that, only a lil quicker.
but to answer your question, if you are amending with all those nutrients, you may run a lil low on some of the macros only because much of the nutrients will be sorta "washed out"
blood meal and guano are fairly soluble