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hot cheetos

hot cheetos

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COGrown said:
S1s are either the result of a female turning intersex, or intersex behavior being introduced via artificial means, such as colloidal silver, and then self-seeding. If pollen is produced and the seeds are viable, then the resulting offspring are the f1 generation.
However, the glue is supposed to be the result of an intersex cross, and those are usually sterile and won't drop pollen, but miracles happen or whatever.
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Did you mean s1 generation?

So then does that mean that GG4 can't hermie without a miracle?

Also, someone in the previous page commented on my pics and refered to one of my plants as "the s1". Is it possible to identify an s1 with pictures? What characteristics do they show?

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akhiymjames said:
hot cheetos said:
GG4 turning purple?

The other pic is one of the other gg4s in the same room
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I have seen some GG4 get light tints of purple on it. It's some pics in the GG4 thread over IC but it's more of the fade and light spectrum but that's a tough pic to see really. From that top view looks nothing like GG4 too leafy. The s1 pic looks like GG4 with nug structure less leafy and pink petioles. That very well may be GG4 but it looks to leafy from top view
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Your glue looks great!
 
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COGrown

COGrown

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hot cheetos said:
Did you mean s1 generation?

So then does that mean that GG4 can't hermie without a miracle?

Also, someone in the previous page commented on my pics and refered to one of my plants as "the s1". Is it possible to identify an s1 with pictures? What characteristics do they show?

Here:





Your glue looks great!
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Yeah typo. S1 generation. And it's not that it can't 'hermie', it's that it isn't likely to produce viable pollen. Probably why there aren't a ton on feminized strains made using a reversed gg4.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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I've had GG4 show intersex traits and produce viable S1 seeds. She doesn't seem to like cold air blown underneath her canopy, I've had bananas in my larfy stuff underneath near cold air intakes. The S1s were all dank, but with poor structures and poor yields. Ranging from Chem to juicy fruit flavors. Breeding with GG4 is a crapshoot due to her lineage and lack of stability. It's not a strain, it's a cut...

Just my 2¢
 
akhiymjames

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COGrown said:
Yeah typo. S1 generation. And it's not that it can't 'hermie', it's that it isn't likely to produce viable pollen. Probably why there aren't a ton on feminized strains made using a reversed gg4.
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Naw GG4 creates viable pollen when reversed. A few people have made s1s to sell so it def creates viable pollen I just think you don't see many fem crosses with it being reversed cus nobody wants to make crosses with it and maybe upset Joesy. I think if someone made tons of fem crosses like IHG did with the Platinum GSC cut with GG4 it would stir up some stuff and you don't want the Glue Crew and their followers bashing you cus they will to no end. Just my opinion
 
akhiymjames

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shishkaboy said:
I thought the glue was from NV.
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That's where the creator is but I don't know if that's exactly where it came from cus he didn't pop the seeds to find the Gorilla Glue phenos. It was Marrdog who popped the seeds and I'm not for sure if that's where he's at too but I don know he popped the seeds and found the best phenos #1 and #4. The reversed #4 and bred it to #1 to get #5
 
COGrown

COGrown

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akhiymjames said:
That's where the creator is but I don't know if that's exactly where it came from cus he didn't pop the seeds to find the Gorilla Glue phenos. It was Marrdog who popped the seeds and I'm not for sure if that's where he's at too but I don know he popped the seeds and found the best phenos #1 and #4. The reversed #4 and bred it to #1 to get #5
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akhiymjames said:
Naw GG4 creates viable pollen when reversed. A few people have made s1s to sell so it def creates viable pollen I just think you don't see many fem crosses with it being reversed cus nobody wants to make crosses with it and maybe upset Joesy. I think if someone made tons of fem crosses like IHG did with the Platinum GSC cut with GG4 it would stir up some stuff and you don't want the Glue Crew and their followers bashing you cus they will to no end. Just my opinion
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I forgot all about that.... There's too many damn seed companies for me to keep track of these days. Lots of people make regular crosses with GG4, do the Glue Crew hate on them? Of the bigger boutique breeders Exotic, Sin City, and Bodhi all have or have had gg4 crosses on the market, there's one or more BXs available as well. I've been favorably impressed with both the crosses I've seen with it and the resin profile of the plant itself and plan to make some crosses with it, although i don''t think it is as good of a breeding tool as a good cookie cut can be.
 
shishkaboy

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COGrown said:
I forgot all about that.... There's too many damn seed companies for me to keep track of these days. Lots of people make regular crosses with GG4, do the Glue Crew hate on them? Of the bigger boutique breeders Exotic, Sin City, and Bodhi all have or have had gg4 crosses on the market, there's one or more BXs available as well. I've been favorably impressed with both the crosses I've seen with it and the resin profile of the plant itself and plan to make some crosses with it, although i don''t think it is as good of a breeding tool as a good cookie cut can be.
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Interesting perspective. What have you seen from the gg4 crosses?
I am asking because I have one I just put into flowering.


I dont think JW would mind. When I got in touch with him for the ok to cross the gg4 he was very open to it. Even encouraged me to do my thing.
 
COGrown

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shishkaboy said:
Interesting perspective. What have you seen from the gg4 crosses?
I am asking because I have one I just put into flowering.


I dont think JW would mind. When I got in touch with him for the ok to cross the gg4 he was very open to it. Even encouraged me to do my thing.
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The characteristics I've seen in gg4 crosses that I like are the bud structure, the fact that she stacks well for an elite, and the size of the trich heads, which are pretty big. Grows of Bodhi's Space Monkey and Exotic's the Sauce that I have seen have these traits, as does the Gorilla Bubble line.

That said I think Cookies is a better breeding tool if you are looking for dank headstash. The Forum cut and the OGKB both seem to make wonderful crosses with the right parents, and my forum cut is as loud as the gg4 and I definitely prefer the GSC taste.
 
greenghost420

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shishkaboy said:
Interesting perspective. What have you seen from the gg4 crosses?
I am asking because I have one I just put into flowering.


I dont think JW would mind. When I got in touch with him for the ok to cross the gg4 he was very open to it. Even encouraged me to do my thing.
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i hit him up as well, just asked not to do s1s.

had a dream the other night i was trading with kgp, woke n laughed my ass of for a minute! hope all is well homie!
 
shishkaboy

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greenghost420 said:
i hit him up as well, just asked not to do s1s.

had a dream the other night i was trading with kgp, woke n laughed my ass of for a minute! hope all is well homie!
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Kgp opened my eyes to quite a bit of info.

If something comes with a recommendation from him its prolly fire.

Got the og crossed of the bucket list. Still looking to try the cheese
 
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