Need help I just want to figure out why my leafs are browning

Khronickush

Khronickush

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this has been happening to all my plants veg and flower... Seems to be happening to weaker strains but it's still going on I thought the problem was K and cal mag but I've been adding them and nothing is changing also thought i over feed my plants so I have been flushing all of them..
Ph 6.3 temp
79
Co2 1200ppm
Sunshine mix 4 advanced nuts grow micro bloom just want figure this problem out..
 

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budulyk

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are u feeding a high feed could be burn or could however be a def caused by over ferting (lockout) do u water between feeds what ppm do u feed at and what ratio of the 3 bottles are you using
 
Khronickush

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zubey91 said:
looks to me like you got lock out..are you sure your ph is 6.3? i see leaf wrinkling too.. (sure sign of ph) how are you measuring it? do you have a soil meter or are you testing runoff?
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I haven't test run off but I have a blu lab ph meter and every time I water I make sure I get it at 6.2 or 6.3 what would cause a lockout just to much of everything
 
Khronickush

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budulyk said:
are u feeding a high feed could be burn or could however be a def caused by over ferting (lockout) do u water between feeds what ppm do u feed at and what ratio of the 3 bottles are you using
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The bottle says 4ml per liter for mature plants but I'm running it at about 30 ml per gal of each grow micro bloom I add a little more bloom when I'm flowering.. I usually feed every time but the last 2 week I've been feed very lightly or any at all
 
budulyk

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ive been running a little less than bottle directions and usually im ok if u see issues they may not correct u may just have to look for improvements in new groth or it not doing it in future i usually do feed water feed if not 2 waters between sometimes to let it leach off old nutes do a ppm of your runoff water from your soil and a ph and see what its reading that will tell you a whole lot im sure
 
Grojak

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Bottle directions are always high (the more you use the more you buy) always good to start light doses and move up til you find that sweet spot. Also it's ok to cheat, search for others using your nutes and see how they are doing. I will say though Botanicare charts for their nutes actually work with minimal tweaking but I did start at half their recommended when I started using them.

Also you're running SS #4 without any added perlite so it's a little dense might look into some perlite to add to the next bag you buy. I would recommend every 3rd or 4th watering to be just ph'd water all the way through flower, this will help with the excess of salts and nutes that the SS4 holds. I don't run SS4 but did for a couple years and found for me it was every 3rd watering (sometimes 4th cause I'm forgetful) and I found my plants were a lot happier, without doing so the SS4 has a tendency to be too hot and burn leaves.
 
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budulyk

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Grojak said:
Bottle directions are always high (the more you use the more you buy) always good to start light doses and move up til you find that sweet spot. Also it's ok to cheat, search for others using your nutes and see how they are doing. I will say though Botanicare charts for their nutes actually work with minimal tweaking but I did start at half their recommended when I started using them.
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oooh ive been thinking about a swap to this could u inbox me what ur using of the range and how ur finding it seamed a little pricey to just try it lol
 
whitebb2727

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Run half strength.

Are you watering until 20-30% runoff? Also if running a higher feed you would water, feed, water, feed etc.

If you want to feed Everytime run you nutes 1/4 strength and make sure to water until good run off.

You are over feeding and not watering enough. You need that much run off to prevent salt buildup. Also dont let them sit in run off.

You need to leech the soil (flush). Run 3-4 times the pot size worth of water through the pot. Or water only for a few waterings with plenty of run off.

When you start back feeding cut the feed down and water more.
 
Khronickush

Khronickush

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Grojak said:
Bottle directions are always high (the more you use the more you buy) always good to start light doses and move up til you find that sweet spot. Also it's ok to cheat, search for others using your nutes and see how they are doing. I will say though Botanicare charts for their nutes actually work with minimal tweaking but I did start at half their recommended when I started using them.

Also you're running SS #4 without any added perlite so it's a little dense might look into some perlite to add to the next bag you buy. I would recommend every 3rd or 4th watering to be just ph'd water all the way through flower, this will help with the excess of salts and nutes that the SS4 holds. I don't run SS4 but did for a couple years and found for me it was every 3rd watering (sometimes 4th cause I'm forgetful) and I found my plants were a lot happier, without doing so the SS4 has a tendency to be too hot and burn leaves.
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How should I fix this lockout just flush a few waters with just ph water?
 
Grojak

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Khronickush said:
How should I fix this lockout just flush a few waters with just ph water?
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No multiple flushing will starve them. Do what WhiteBB said in his last sentence than feed light say half of what you're doing for a couple waterings and let the plants tell you if they need more or not. I know it sounds all hippy saying "let the plants tell you what they need" but once you and your plants on dialed in you'll notice every little change in her and be able to understand it.
 
A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Khronickush said:
The bottle says 4ml per liter for mature plants but I'm running it at about 30 ml per gal of each grow micro bloom I add a little more bloom when I'm flowering.. I usually feed every time but the last 2 week I've been feed very lightly or any at all
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There are about 3 1/2 liters per gal.? 30 divided by 3.5 is about 8.6 ml per liter, bottle calls for 4. I'd say that's your problem. I get good results doing what the bottle sez. My watering ph. runs 6.7 to 6.8 I flush every 4th watering using water at 6.5 or 6.4. Some hybrids need tweeking, I edge their PPM. up slowly and consult one of the many charts on RIU and try to determine what the plant is asking for. If the plant is a neut. hog, I up the neuts. about 50 ppm. per watering and watch closely for signs of burn or lockout. Moderate amounts of co2 are adequate, I don't know where 1200 ppm fits in with your space, but I poisoned my plants with high co2 one grow. If I am correct about high levels of neuts. I would order beginner or easy seeds and go back to basics for a few more grows. I like the simple strains, getting dank buds from them is no prob. By the way what are you growing, just curiouse. Good luck .
 
Chef420

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A.K.A. Overgrowem said:
There are about 3 1/2 liters per gal.? 30 divided by 3.5 is about 8.6 ml per liter, bottle calls for 4. I'd say that's your problem. I get good results doing what the bottle sez. My watering ph. runs 6.7 to 6.8 I flush every 4th watering using water at 6.5 or 6.4. Some hybrids need tweeking, I edge their PPM. up slowly and consult one of the many charts on RIU and try to determine what the plant is asking for. If the plant is a neut. hog, I up the neuts. about 50 ppm. per watering and watch closely for signs of burn or lockout. Moderate amounts of co2 are adequate, I don't know where 1200 ppm fits in with your space, but I poisoned my plants with high co2 one grow. If I am correct about high levels of neuts. I would order beginner or easy seeds and go back to basics for a few more grows. I like the simple strains, getting dank buds from them is no prob. By the way what are you growing, just curiouse. Good luck .
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There are 3.8L in a gallon. I divide by 4 instead of 3.5.
It's more accurate, easier to calculate, and you're erring on the side of caution.
 
Quispp

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You seeing any fungus flies by chance? If so, lay down an inch of fine sand on the soil and start watering from the bottom. Looks ta me like either gnat larva getting to your roots or fungal infection, often from high humidity.
 
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