Recovery after being stuck in the seedling stage

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Gunfer420

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whitebb2727 said:
That is too much. It is quite common for a new grower to over water. Spread some soil out and let it dry fast and fill a pot of the same size as you are growing in. Pick it up and feel how light it is. Pick the one you are growing in and feel the difference.

From now on just pick the pot up and if it feels heavy don't water. You could get a cheap probe also.

https://www.amazon.com/FIXKIT-Moisture-Function-Gardener-Outdoors/dp/B01KZTDRV4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476485767&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=soil+moisture+meter&psc=1
This one does moisture and ph.

Let the plant tell you if it needs water not the soil. I plant straight to 15 inch pots that hold about five gallons. It might take 3 weeks or so before they need water.

Letting the soil dry will encourage the roots to grow in search of water. I have had plants that the leaves lay down against the stalk, water them and stand back up in 30 minutes.

The lowest set of leaves will show signs first of needing water. The leaves and leaf stems will droop. (lay against the stalk and point towards the ground.)

Over water will cause drooping to. It looks different. The leaves droop by themselves. Yellowing will be present to.
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Wow man, thank you really. You helped me alot with your detailed description. Im new here but im loving this community already :)
 
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Gunfer420

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whitebb2727 said:
No. It can cause hot spots. Flat white paint is better. Its less than ten bucks for a gallon at Walmart. You can get quarts to.
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Okay tnx....but honestly my main concern is safety. I mean i did my best to wire that lighting safely, but since its always on, plus i got a pc vent manually connected to a wall plug, what are the chances of a short circuit, a spark or worse a fire? :/
 
Saint Skinny

Saint Skinny

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Gunfer420 said:
Well actually it sprouted exactly a month ago but as I said, it was neglected for around 3 weeks. Anyway I was expecting a similar answer and honestly, for this little stressed put plant anything above 5 grams yield is a success. This is my 1st grow so Im not that disappointed but at least I learnt a lesson for next time. My final question is what to feed her and when? I heard that with good soil veg nutes arent necessary for an autoflower, but can anyone give a concrete, empirical answer?
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It seems like you're learning from your experience, so I wouldn't consider it a failure even if you got nothing! lol personally I love just spending time with my plants, looking over everything, and noting what is working, what isn't working, figuring why it may/not be working, and journaling it all. My #1 tip would be to get into the habit of writing a journal, that information could be priceless down the road, believe it or not. Record Temps (of soil, environment, canopy, reservoir, etc), RH%(highs and lows of Temp and RH if you have a thermometer that will do that), plant heights, problems you encounter, what fixed the problem, what didn't fix the problem, you can basically make it as detailed as you want to. Not to mention when things are written down in a journal, you may see certain patterns that you wouldn't otherwise

Gunfer420 said:
Yea, so i figured. Well at least ill get something which is okay for me considering its my 1st grow. This one was a guinea pig anyway :P
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Never underestimate the power of guinea pigging!
Gunfer420 said:
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Wow dude, i must say your name really describes you. You wrote much but nothing helpful really. Dont you think i would inform myself before going into such a thing as growing? Trust me i have read, read, and read some more before i started anything. I just asked here because this is my first grow and i know i failed at start but was still wondering if anything can be pulled out of it and your comment was not really helpful mate.
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My mama always said, choose your battles wisely. Ime Sometimes it's easier to say nothing and 'Let it go' like you live with a Frozen obsessed four year old.
let it gooo, let it gooo
dargd1 said:
I like your Bonzi marijuana plant......It looks cool. midgets would probably think it was normal size who knows...lol
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As a 6' tall midget, I'm offended. Lol jk
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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WBB is right, theres nothing wrong with that plant. you shouldn't have transplanted it, but it seems to be getting over it fine. when you transplant ANY plant, unless you are insanely careful, they will slow down for a few days. unless you really fuck up the roots, they'll take off again soon. but you have to give them time to grow some roots before you expect to see anything happening above the ground. a plant has to "feel" like it has an adequate base to support itself before it will switch to growing leaves. keep it as close to your light as you can without burning it and it will soon take off, and i doubt it'll be a midget
 
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Gunfer420

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
WBB is right, theres nothing wrong with that plant. you shouldn't have transplanted it, but it seems to be getting over it fine. when you transplant ANY plant, unless you are insanely careful, they will slow down for a few days. unless you really fuck up the roots, they'll take off again soon. but you have to give them time to grow some roots before you expect to see anything happening above the ground. a plant has to "feel" like it has an adequate base to support itself before it will switch to growing leaves. keep it as close to your light as you can without burning it and it will soon take off, and i doubt it'll be a midget
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Yea, it took transplanting well i think. Now its size has doubled from the size in the pictures, not so much in height but more in width but i think its getting along really nice. Its stem is getting stronger and more leaves are appearing every day (although they are all 3-fingered for now but i guess thats normal)
 
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Gunfer420

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
WBB is right, theres nothing wrong with that plant. you shouldn't have transplanted it, but it seems to be getting over it fine. when you transplant ANY plant, unless you are insanely careful, they will slow down for a few days. unless you really fuck up the roots, they'll take off again soon. but you have to give them time to grow some roots before you expect to see anything happening above the ground. a plant has to "feel" like it has an adequate base to support itself before it will switch to growing leaves. keep it as close to your light as you can without burning it and it will soon take off, and i doubt it'll be a midget
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Well its expected size is about 40-50cm so given the fact that i damaged her a bit in the start im guessing it wont be over 30-35 cm?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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again, depends, on how accurate the original estimate was, and how good a job you do, always take the shit you see on seed sites as a vague guideline, not the way it GOING to be, especially the flowering times they give, they must have the fucking sun in their grow rooms to get the shit done in the times they say they do
 
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Gunfer420

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
again, depends, on how accurate the original estimate was, and how good a job you do, always take the shit you see on seed sites as a vague guideline, not the way it GOING to be, especially the flowering times they give, they must have the fucking sun in their grow rooms to get the shit done in the times they say they do
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I get what youre saying, thats why i never relied on their info about yield size in the first place (even without fuckups i did already )

Btw i have seen people putting a cup of water in the box to raise humidity while the plant is still small, you think thats a good idea?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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can't hurt, plants like 70% + RH while vegging, the less energy they spend transpiring, the more they can spend growing

get a cheap RH meter, the ones for reptile tanks work just fine, as long as you check them. put them in a sealed container with a small dish of damp salt. in an hour or so they should say 75% and stay there till you open the container. the good ones will have a nut on the back that you can turn to adjust the needle. make them say 75% if they don't and you're good. i check mine every 3 or 4 months and only have to make small adjustments occasionally
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
can't hurt, plants like 70% + RH while vegging, the less energy they spend transpiring, the more they can spend growing

get a cheap RH meter, the ones for reptile tanks work just fine, as long as you check them. put them in a sealed container with a small dish of damp salt. in an hour or so they should say 75% and stay there till you open the container. the good ones will have a nut on the back that you can turn to adjust the needle. make them say 75% if they don't and you're good. i check mine every 3 or 4 months and only have to make small adjustments occasionally
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I never run that high of an Rh and several growers and myself have great result staying in the 40℅ Rh range.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Gunfer420 said:
Okay tnx....but honestly my main concern is safety. I mean i did my best to wire that lighting safely, but since its always on, plus i got a pc vent manually connected to a wall plug, what are the chances of a short circuit, a spark or worse a fire? :/
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I don't know. I didn't wire it up.
 
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Gunfer420

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whitebb2727 said:
I don't know. I didn't wire it up.
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How did u connect the cable with the socket then? Or did u just buy lamps as they were? I have chosen the first method cuz sockets and cables are very cheap in my local hardware store so i basically had lights up and running for a total of 20 bucks (including 2 24w cfls)
 
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Gunfer420

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And another question, i just bought those dual sockets for seperating one throat onto two...has anybody had any experience with those cuz they seem a bit cheap (plastic and a thin metal) although the guy said they served him good, i really dont want to burn my apartment down :/
 
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