There's a reason converts to COB LED are so excited and it's not just about more yield!Good point, the terps that came through on that Blue Ripper were like night & day compared to any previous runs. Curing that shit is like opening a jar of fresh blueberries every time and the smell transfers through to flavour when burning it. Crazy, like a new strain
Environment may have played a part in that run but if they keep producing that level of terps/quality (which I'm pretty sure they will), there's no going back unless I'm just testing or need some extra heat. Quality has always been my driver indoor as it's personal or meds and so far the quality has been outstanding under the COBs. Quality was also top notch under 3070's but not as much difference as under the 3590's, nor was production. These 3590's have really stepped up the game.
With what I am seeing in veg I am happy I spent the $$ on the Cree's, tonight my first girl starts 12/12 under the 3K 3590's that she's been vegging under as well. The veg tent is 5K. I pulled my portable A/C unit out of the room yesterday lol. If I were to finish out the other half of my flower tent exactly as the 600W light, I would be using about 1600 total for my grow, this is in three tents right now, the HID's were gonna be 3000w so almost half the wattage. It makes a difference brother, but like you told me in the past you need to see it in person and not look at it on a data sheet. And I am seeing it now, the room is cooler and quieter both big deals for me.
Glad to hear it's working out well for you, those COBs make it so much easier to maintain the environment. As much as we talk about lights, if the environment isn't in check, the light by itself is not going to produce top quality. These make it easier to get 2 of the major indoor growing factors dialed in.
Exactly for the first time ever I am not battling humidity issues lol.........
No way would you have to vent same amount of COBS like you would HPS....Absolutely not do they put off same heat signature
Hey thanks, no, nothing like hps, shit my temps dropped to the point I'll have to crank up my incoming air through the winter to add some heat. may even have to mix in one of my CMH lights mid winter for heat.
I think superior light distribution across the canopy is the secret weapon of LED, which is why I don't fuck with high wattage COBs.
Yeah the science/theory is correct but I run those WiFi/RF thermometer/hygrometer's and they don't lie. Is the heat a different type or does it get somehow absorbed better, whatever it is, there's no comparison when I switch between CMH and COBs, I've gone back & forth a couple of times and when I have, I have to adjust the room to suit each type of light, the light output wattage is almost the same (300 vs 315), the CMH of course has some overhead so the ballast heat could certainly account for some of the difference, perhaps all? The total output on the COBs is about 10% more accounting for the drivers and fans so around 660w, the actual total draw on the 315's ~120v is 365 or 730w running 2 of them.
Directional light profile is sending most of the light directly onto the leaves, which respond with more water transpiration. If you shut your exhaust vent you'd notice a rapid rise in RH.
Hey thanks and thanks for popping in, those COBs are impressive for output and quality. I recently switched them from CMH 315's which are also impressive for bulb tech but these are producing the best quality I've seen yet. Cheers.Great looking plants GroErr!
When and if I ever get around to replacing my HIDs I'll likely be getting into these COBs, Seeing much better results with them than most of the other LED grows I've looked at. Pink is not my favorite colour.
Yes I've seen that many times when I shut off all fans/exhaust to do something like pollinating, but that happens with either light source in there. Have never paid attention though to see if there's any difference in how fast or how high each light source spikes. Would be an interesting test but a pain in the _ss...
Since I run water cooled air handlers it's easier for me to tell. I just look at how fast the reclaim barrel fills up.
A grow well worth popping in to see!
Cheers my fellow Canadian, I know about dealing with our shitty availability and high equipment prices up here. I've bought most of my lights from the US but I also bought some (CMH) when our dollar was closer to par with the USD, right now it sucks. Only Canadian supplier of lights I can point you to with decent prices for COBs is bcblondes, owner has been posting in some of the Canadian threads and they seem legfit. But that's a whole different budget range. I bought some replacement lamps from Bulbs Pro but their prices weren't the greatest and I had to exchange some when they shipped the wrong one's first order.A grow well worth popping in to see!
I've been trying to source some CMH bulbs for years up here without any luck. I'm too paranoid to order them online and any of the electrical supply places won't get them unless I buy a case of 6. Good price actually at $300 but rarely have that much coin to spare. Recently had it but blew my wad on bulbs, nutes etc to expand my grow space and didn't take the time to shop around much. $170 for one 1000W EYE Hortilux conversion bulb to run on my old magnetic MH ballast and flower out an 8x4 tent that still needs setting up. Another $200 for other bulbs to veg and flower with the various ballasts I've been using for years. I'm still using right this minute a 15 year old EYE conversion bulb that lets me veg with a 400W HPS ballast. Must be half a shotglass of tungsten flakes rolling around in there but the plants seem to like it fine.
My basement grow space is always on the cold side so unlike most I welcome the heat that HIDs supply. If there are no lights on then I have a 1000W heater kicking in to maintain temps in there and you can't grow shit with a heater!
There is also the issue of CO2. No carbon dioxide and plants stop growing so without supplementation you gotta have fresh air constantly entering the grow space. There again I have problems with low temps and may need to supply heated air from the house so I can have a low volume exhaust fan running while the lights are on. Or scrounge up the coin to buy a CO2 controller that works with the tank and flow gauge I already have.
Maybe my lotto tickets will pay off tonight and I can go get all the goodies I wish I had instead of the DIY stuff that works fine but isn't as pretty as the store-bought stuff.
~3' x 8' covered by 5 bars/12 COBs driven at 1.4A/600w total...
