Mysteriously sick seedlings
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Darnova
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Plain old distilled water, about $1 each gallon. Located near the gallons of drinking water. First job is to stop the damage. Personally, I would flush each cup until at least 1 quart of water poured out of the bottoms. A real good flushing. As for the dolomite lime, it won't hurt the plant, so no reason not to use it, other than cost & availability. Unless you can pick up the lime as quickly and easily as distilled water, you might want to flush the cups first, work on the lime second.
A good flushing can stop the damage (at least temporarily) from bad PH, nutrient burn, dry roots, salt buildup, and a whole lot more.
A good flushing can stop the damage (at least temporarily) from bad PH, nutrient burn, dry roots, salt buildup, and a whole lot more.
If nothing has been added to the medium but water, what exactly is being flushed out?
Darnova
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If there is a problem with the grow medium and/or the tap water, then fully flushing it out with clean distilled water may provide a very temporary relief to the ongoing damage. The intent is keeping the plants alive while more accurately pinpointing the solution. Based on what he's said, the little plants are going bad, fast. A little triage may be helpful.
danjac82
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This issue is silly. Theyre too young too have deficiencies and I haven't fed them so it's not over nute. It look like a combo of over- nute, calcium deficiency, boron deficiency, heat stress and who knows what else. The soil is good soil. This is silly. Has to be the tap water. The chemicals, salts. Idk. has to be something I'm adding to the soil that the plants are taking up. Could the soil/water pH be that low that it would lock out the tiny amount if nutes/macronutes that a seedling like mine. would need? pH issue causing lack of necessary nutrient uptake or bullshit in the water. Logic sound OK? Lol
polishpollack
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there's nothing wrong with distilled. it should be pure water. If there is fert in that soil it could be enough to be the problem. You could call the maker of that soil and ask about using it for seedlings, or send an email. FF created the light warrior soil because it's used for seedlings, then you transplant into ocean forest. it's hard to say but if you change more than one thing at a time, you might never find out what the solution is.
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danjac82
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You're right man. This has no added ferts and I've used it before with no problem. This is my third grow over the last few years an trying to get the hang of it. I'm gonna report them today, adding more lime to the promix and watering with better water. Will get a pH reader when I can. Probably Friday.
Buba Blend
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Read or reread Alienwidows post that I quoted above. This thread is going all over the place for seedlings. If you really want to save them, put them in a new pot (maybe 3 gallon) with a quality fresh soil like FFOF and just water them. If you water them with the right amount of water and they are within a good lighting range and a decent environment they should recover.
Yes tap water can be bad and changes should be made in reference to what water to use to grow the best buds. Any tap water in the hands of an experienced grower will grow healthy looking green plants as long as the environment is good, just look at outdoor landscapes around the country, they are being watered with tap water. I'm just saying the problems you are having are not likely due to the quality of your tap water.
Alienwidow
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Wow you spent a lot of time coming up with answers that are all wrong. Youre not good at the advice game by the looks of what you came up with. Everything you said was so off point it hurts to read it. "Severe calcium/magnesium deficiancy"- theyre two totally different looking deficiancies ya doughnut, and neither are visible. Plus what are the plants two weeks old? Calmag problems already??? Wheres that head bangin against wall emoji?
Then out spews ph problems....?? Ph problem is usually the go to response from the hydro store guy when he just has no clue what the real problem is, and 99/100 times its grower error and not ph problems. Ph problems is pretty much like saying, "i have no idea but buy this crap and toss it in there".
Then out comes the promix analysis...not once have i ever heard anyone say, "my promix is too hot". That comment you made should be deleted incase anyone should ever stumble upon it and believe that crap. The fact is that you have no idea what youre talking about, yet youre still posting? Whats next in the pile of garbage lets see now?...
Oh i love where you call the control release fertilizer..dolamite lime..in promix, harsh chemical.
thats wonderful. Whats next in this laughing stock?Ooohhhh yes! Then the charts come out! My favorite is the one that says, "brown spots on middle or lower leaves". His plants only have one set of true leaves! Baaaahahahaaa! All these charts refer to plants much further along than these sprouts boyo. Oh then the threads about ph come out. I love how you say,"look kinda simalar to your situation?"....NOOOOOO!!! It looks nothing like it at all.
Oh fuck it gets better! Rotflmao!!! Then you start accusing chlorine and florine to be the culprits! This gets better by the post! You know some deep water growers treat daily with bleach right? The next "idea" that you throw out is, "well im wondering if you dont have more than one problem hitting your plant at the same time".!!! "Well maybe the wind from the fan is drying them out"!!! (Those sprouts would be laid over from wind dammage) wrong again
NEEEEEXT!! "Wait 12 hrs to see if the damage stops of reverses". Omg im laughing so hard! 12 hrs for plant damage to stop....or reverse? Is that a real thing? You must run some pretty potent co2 to have damage reversing in 12 hrs there doughnut. Ohhh fuck it gets better!!! You say, go buy some water from the store and FLUSH YOUR PLANTS!!!! Baaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa. This is hurting my face and my stomach from laughing! Nobodies around and im just loling so hard it hurts.....ok so why do you figure he should flush his plants now? Hes never fed them. Theyre two weeks old. Theyre in SOILESS substrate. (Aka peat moss with little to no food in there). Unbelievable, just unbelievable that you can be so wrong on so many posts.
So lets see, youve reccomended this guy buy, water from the grocery store, a ph test kit, and calmag. Wow. He needs none of that. What he needs to do is make sure his plants are getting the necessities of life and hes not burning them with light bulbs. The right temps at the canopy and the right amount of light on the plants (light distance) will do wonders. Also a tiny splash of food would speed the healing process...wont be 12 hrs though.
And hey doughnut or whatever your name is, if your going to crap on my post at least have the decency to tag me in or quote me. Id love to talk shop with you anytime
it made my day 
Alienwidow
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Best post of the thread ^^^ transplant into fox farm and water only. Done.
Alienwidow
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EXACTLYYYYYY!!!!!!!!
ISK
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did you see the thread were he states a mirror reflects light better than flat white paint, or mylarWow you spent a lot of time coming up with answers that are all wrong. Youre not good at the advice game by the looks of what you came up with. Everything you said was so off point it hurts to read it. "Severe calcium/magnesium deficiancy"- theyre two totally different looking deficiancies ya doughnut, and neither are visible. Plus what are the plants two weeks old? Calmag problems already??? Wheres that head bangin against wall emoji?
Then out spews ph problems....?? Ph problem is usually the go to response from the hydro store guy when he just has no clue what the real problem is, and 99/100 times its grower error and not ph problems. Ph problems is pretty much like saying, "i have no idea but buy this crap and toss it in there".
Then out comes the promix analysis...not once have i ever heard anyone say, "my promix is too hot". That comment you made should be deleted incase anyone should ever stumble upon it and believe that crap. The fact is that you have no idea what youre talking about, yet youre still posting? Whats next in the pile of garbage lets see now?...
Oh i love where you call the control release fertilizer..dolamite lime..in promix, harsh chemical.
Ooohhhh yes! Then the charts come out! My favorite is the one that says, "brown spots on middle or lower leaves". His plants only have one set of true leaves! Baaaahahahaaa! All these charts refer to plants much further along than these sprouts boyo. Oh then the threads about ph come out. I love how you say,"look kinda simalar to your situation?"....NOOOOOO!!! It looks nothing like it at all.
Oh fuck it gets better! Rotflmao!!! Then you start accusing chlorine and florine to be the culprits! This gets better by the post! You know some deep water growers treat daily with bleach right? The next "idea" that you throw out is, "well im wondering if you dont have more than one problem hitting your plant at the same time".!!! "Well maybe the wind from the fan is drying them out"!!! (Those sprouts would be laid over from wind dammage) wrong again
Ohhh fuck it gets better!!! You say, go buy some water from the store and FLUSH YOUR PLANTS!!!! Baaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa. This is hurting my face and my stomach from laughing! Nobodies around and im just loling so hard it hurts.....ok so why do you figure he should flush his plants now? Hes never fed them. Theyre two weeks old. Theyre in SOILESS substrate. (Aka peat moss with little to no food in there). Unbelievable, just unbelievable that you can be so wrong on so many posts.
So lets see, youve reccomended this guy buy, water from the grocery store, a ph test kit, and calmag. Wow. He needs none of that. What he needs to do is make sure his plants are getting the necessities of life and hes not burning them with light bulbs. The right temps at the canopy and the right amount of light on the plants (light distance) will do wonders. Also a tiny splash of food would speed the healing process...wont be 12 hrs though.
And hey doughnut or whatever your name is, if your going to crap on my post at least have the decency to tag me in or quote me. Id love to talk shop with you anytime
whitebb2727
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Its not nute burn. Promix is a soiless growing medium with little to no nutes. It is the same thing as seed starter.
You have a couple problems going on.
You need to raise theose bulbs a little. Those cups look really dry. Make sure you are watering until good runoff. Water twice. Water them and then water again about 10 minutes later. Peat is a pain in the ass. It will cause ph problems. It is hard to water. If it dries too much it gets hydrophobic.
Water them things reall good and back the lights up and give them a break and time to recover.
Of course you can just start throwing everything at and kill them.
You have a couple problems going on.
You need to raise theose bulbs a little. Those cups look really dry. Make sure you are watering until good runoff. Water twice. Water them and then water again about 10 minutes later. Peat is a pain in the ass. It will cause ph problems. It is hard to water. If it dries too much it gets hydrophobic.
Water them things reall good and back the lights up and give them a break and time to recover.
Of course you can just start throwing everything at and kill them.