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GroErr

GroErr

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Javadog said:
You also work with a fair chunk of material. This helps a lot.

I too often find myself trying to get roots from leaves and twigs. lol

An old grower named magash showed me a fan leaf that he had
gotten roots to come from...a real fan, and it was making nubs like
a baby sawfish...weird. I was ruined. Cooler weather and water
cloners can take 6 weeks to get roots out of the hardest to clone
breeds, but they still can. :0) Nothing has helped more than patience,
but I have never used the stronger chemicals.
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Lol, twigs and leaves. I don't go overboard on size, but I find you need a certain amount of material to get reliable clones and I need reliability since I don't keep mothers.

The temps comment is spot on with cloners, anything under 70F I've found can take forever. 70-75F and preferably on the higher end of that and they respond quick. I noticed through summer some cuts were taking as long as 3 weeks to get nubs and 4 weeks to be ready to transplant (air conditioning keeps the basement cooler during summer). Now that it's gotten cooler outside, the cloner sits beside the furnace which is coming on regularly and the temps have bumped back up to 73-75F. Just had some of those show me nubs within a week and a couple of those with nice long roots have only been in there for like 11 days! One of those is that awesome BR x Harlequin pheno in the 2gal which is great to see, if that cut is dank this pheno is a killer find, thing is a bush with no training and crazy amount of side branching, going to be a big producer :)

Only thing with the warmer water is I change it out more often, every 2 weeks max to avoid any slime-like crap starting up. Loving this little King Cloner for maintenance, it doesn't hold a lot of water so cleaning it and changing the water's like a 10 minute job. My old DIY cloner held a few gallons and was a heavy beatch to clean/change water.
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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Javadog said:
You also work with a fair chunk of material. This helps a lot.

I too often find myself trying to get roots from leaves and twigs. lol

An old grower named magash showed me a fan leaf that he had
gotten roots to come from...a real fan, and it was making nubs like
a baby sawfish...weird. I was ruined. Cooler weather and water
cloners can take 6 weeks to get roots out of the hardest to clone.
but I have never used the stronger chemicals.
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Holy Cow 6 Weeks To Clone Damn I Must Be A Hardass Cause If Your Not Showing Me Something At 10 Days Your Non Cloning Ass Is Gone. End Of Story. Here's My Babies At 14 Days :weed:

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GroErr

GroErr

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The Dawg said:
Holy Cow 6 Weeks To Clone Damn I Must Be A Hardass Cause If Your Not Showing Me Something At 10 Days Your Non Cloning Ass Is Gone. End Of Story. Here's My Babies At 14 Days :weed:

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Nice, I see you're as consistent as I am about trimming the leaves, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - lol. 10-14 days should be the norm, definitely seen low temps cause delays though. I have a sensor I'll throw in from time to time to record water temps and found the 70-75F water temp range the best when monitoring temps over a period of time. Over that and I tend to get slimy shit pop up, under that and they root but take way longer.

The other big factor is health of the plant you're cutting from. I had some sickly plants take 4 weeks to clone, best to get them good & healthy before cutting or it delays them too.

BTW: I use no additives, my tap water is quite high in chlorine so I mix it 1/2 filtered and 1/2 tap when I change the water, that's it.
 
Javadog

Javadog

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I appreciate your perspectives.

The one thing that I like to control is keepers....I want to avoid
getting only one grow out of a bean, only to find out that I lost a
strong one. That is the primary reason I am willing to fight.

Low temps are indeed a slow-down, but, just like when breeding
mushroom fungi, warming things up is more likely to make slime
than it is roots. I am in a warm place. We are 75F, or so, always. :0)
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Pcs of the flower room last night, Day 11/29/44 from front to back in the 1st pic. That Blue Ripper x Harlequin pheno in the bottom-left/2nd pic is going to be a huge producer, tons of natural branching on it with bud sites setting on every one, should be a good stacker. Hoping it's dank smoker :)

Group shots and flowering canopy:

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The day 44 Blue Ripper x Blue Dream girls, guesstimating about 2 weeks for the very frosty P1 and 3-4 weeks for P2.

P1:

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P2:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
Javadog

Javadog

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Lush! I was kinda able to see that structure....post more good shots
of that when the opportunity arises. Thx! :0)
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Javadog said:
Lush! I was kinda able to see that structure....post more good shots
of that when the opportunity arises. Thx! :0)
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Cheers JD, going to move that one to the outside so I can get some better pics of it including overhead. Amazing natural structure, it looks like it's been trained but it had nothing done to it :) Getting difficult to get shots from the back of the room, no room left, I'd need a wide angle lens to capture it properly. 2nd pic where you can see the circulation fan, it's mounted on a flag pole to the wall, that's how packed it is in there - lol
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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GroErr said:
Pcs of the flower room last night, Day 11/29/44 from front to back in the 1st pic. That Blue Ripper x Harlequin pheno in the bottom-left/2nd pic is going to be a huge producer, tons of natural branching on it with bud sites setting on every one, should be a good stacker. Hoping it's dank smoker :)

Group shots and flowering canopy:

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The day 44 Blue Ripper x Blue Dream girls, guesstimating about 2 weeks for the very frosty P1 and 3-4 weeks for P2.

P1:

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P2:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
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Knowing the lineage of your blue ripper now and that of the blue dream im really curious about the effect/taste that combo will produce.
 
Bbcchance

Bbcchance

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GroErr said:
Cheers JD, going to move that one to the outside so I can get some better pics of it including overhead. Amazing natural structure, it looks like it's been trained but it had nothing done to it :) Getting difficult to get shots from the back of the room, no room left, I'd need a wide angle lens to capture it properly. 2nd pic where you can see the circulation fan, it's mounted on a flag pole to the wall, that's how packed it is in there - lol
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Ha! All that space and packed like a pc case!
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Bbcchance said:
Ha! All that space and packed like a pc case!
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They're filling whatever space they can elbow into - lol The JTR is a huge plant, it's like twice the size of any other plants in there with about 6 nice heads coming in. Should be a good haul for 3gal, it's the lighter green one center-right against the wall in the 1st pic, one of it's colas is leaning towards one of the BR x BD front left :)
 
Gquebed

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GroErr said:
It's smelling like a real cross between them, some blueberry/fruity smell but musky background. My HSO BD has this peanut butter background smell and it's coming through there as well. Should be a tasty treat :)
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Mmmm....peanut butter!?
Turning green with envy.... lol
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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GroErr said:
Nice, I see you're as consistent as I am about trimming the leaves, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - lol. 10-14 days should be the norm, definitely seen low temps cause delays though. I have a sensor I'll throw in from time to time to record water temps and found the 70-75F water temp range the best when monitoring temps over a period of time. Over that and I tend to get slimy shit pop up, under that and they root but take way longer.

The other big factor is health of the plant you're cutting from. I had some sickly plants take 4 weeks to clone, best to get them good & healthy before cutting or it delays them too.

BTW: I use no additives, my tap water is quite high in chlorine so I mix it 1/2 filtered and 1/2 tap when I change the water, that's it.
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Oh So I'm No Hard Azz Thanks Lmao. However My Mom's Are Very Healthy And I Do Run Nutes About 400 Ppm's Of Jacks. When I Start To Notice The White Root Nub's I Throw In 1/2 Teaspoon Of Sub B. The Its Just Like Emerald BAM Roots Galore. My Cloner Is Diy Like Most Of My Stuff. I Have 2-4 Inch Flat Round Airstones Along With A Small 90 GPH Pond Pump. My Moto Is You Cant Have Too Much Oxygen :hump:
 
GroErr

GroErr

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The Dawg said:
Oh So I'm No Hard Azz Thanks Lmao. However My Mom's Are Very Healthy And I Do Run Nutes About 400 Ppm's Of Jacks. When I Start To Notice The White Root Nub's I Throw In 1/2 Teaspoon Of Sub B. The Its Just Like Emerald BAM Roots Galore. My Cloner Is Diy Like Most Of My Stuff. I Have 2-4 Inch Flat Round Airstones Along With A Small 90 GPH Pond Pump. My Moto Is You Cant Have Too Much Oxygen :hump:
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Yeah that's a good way to speed things up if you're doing a single batch, give them low ppm's once they show. I generally have batches going in at different times and mixed times so just give them water, those manifolds put out a decent spray. Nothing like a 90 gph pond pump though. You can water the garden... from inside with that thing ;)
 
The Dawg

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GroErr said:
Yeah that's a good way to speed things up if you're doing a single batch, give them low ppm's once they show. I generally have batches going in at different times and mixed times so just give them water, those manifolds put out a decent spray. Nothing like a 90 gph pond pump though. You can water the garden... from inside with that thing ;)
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Lmao Brother I Start Off With Jacks At 400 Ppm Plus Tea. My Thought Is Only The Strong Survive :hump:
 
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