Please help!! AC broke down 1 week before harvest!!

[Budley Doright]

Why would you not? AC aside, 10kW an hour, dude? Think about what she'll pay just on electric. She can get exactly what she's looking for by properly reconfiguring while not funneling extra money into electrical expenses. I'm sure you might agree, maybe more easily if it weren't coming from me, but what I'm saying adds up.

I'm truly surprised she hasn't popped up on local LEO radar yet.

I have no thoughts on it re lighting Olive, I've never ran more than a couple of lights so I would not comment on it and let others that have. The only thing I'm commenting on is the climate control and yup that I know about LOL. I feel sorry for her with all the suggestions being offered with no real knowledge of what her situation is or what she's trying to achieve. Just saying don't take everything here as gospel and research which I'm sure she will .

 

[Snoopy36]

I have no thoughts on it re lighting Olive, I've never ran more than a couple of lights so I would not comment on it and let others that have. The only thing I'm commenting on is the climate control and yup that I know about LOL. I feel sorry for her with all the suggestions being offered with no real knowledge of what her situation is or what she's trying to achieve. Just saying don't take everything here as gospel and research which I'm sure she will .

Thanks definitely not changing anything just yet lol

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I have no thoughts on it re lighting Olive, I've never ran more than a couple of lights so I would not comment on it and let others that have. The only thing I'm commenting on is the climate control and yup that I know about LOL. I feel sorry for her with all the suggestions being offered with no real knowledge of what her situation is or what she's trying to achieve. Just saying don't take everything here as gospel and research which I'm sure she will .

Thanks definitely not changing anything just yet lol

Meh. Do as you will. I just hate to see you waste money on light and heat you can't even use. Good luck, though. I really hope you have a plan for the bill, at least.

If you do research and google it, you'll probably find sometime down the road what I said was true. You are using exponentially more light than you need, as both Doc and I pointed out. Hopefully you figure out what I'm trying to tell you before you waste thousands of dollars where you only needed a few hundred.

 

[Snoopy36]

Meh. Do as you will. I just hate to see you waste money on light and heat you can't even use. Good luck, though. I really hope you have a plan for the bill, at least.

If you do research and google it, you'll probably find sometime down the road what I said was true. You are using exponentially more light than you need, as both Doc and I pointed out. Hopefully you figure out what I'm trying to tell you before you waste thousands of dollars where you only needed a few hundred.

Well like I said the money's not an issue. Not worried about the bill. And I truly believe my plants are benefitting from the light due to the specifics of my grow. I appreciate your opinion and advice though, really. Gives me something to think about and know to look out for. My issue was the ac freezing up, it's ok now so I expect them to recover. I didn't have any other issues concerning light. But I like the constructive critism. You can't learn and grow, no pun intended, without it!

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Well like I said the money's not an issue. Not worried about the bill. And I truly believe my plants are benefitting from the light due to the specifics of my grow. I appreciate your opinion and advice though, really. Gives me something to think about and know to look out for. My issue was the ac freezing up, it's ok now so I expect them to recover. I didn't have any other issues concerning light. But I like the constructive critism. You can't learn and grow, no pun intended, without it!

My intial point was that if you reduce your lighting and consolidate your plants into some kind of formation/pattern, you more than likely won't need an AC.

And what I'm saying is, you are using more light than the plant can even use, and you probably would achieve the same exact results and not worse using 3 lights and a proper layout. Like I said, plants can definitely be oversaturated with light. That point starts around 1500 PPFD. As a 1000w bulb puts out about 2100 PPFD in a square meter, you don't need to use one per plant, even to bush it out.

Can I see a pic of your plants?

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Here's one of my plants, before defoliation and after. I only defoliated to expose my final manifolded/mainlined plant's tops to the light and for better air flow. I'll probably veg for another week or so; I don't usually suggest anyone defoliate if their only reason is to "take some of the load off their plant" because this actually is more likely to hamstring the plant than increase growth by removing what you believe is using up resources, since your fan leaves are your solar-powered engines.

Anywho, my point is, I have over 50 tops and this plant is likely to bush out even more than I really want it to. I am only using a total of 274w between 3 COBs, exposing this plant to about 1.5 of the emitters, and growing two plants, but they're receiving 900-1000 PPFD, so they're growing faster than even my plants I had under two ViparSpectra V450s (which are actually 206w each). The point is, you don't need 1000w per plant to bush out your plant or max out your PPFD requirement, especially when you are overshooting it like you are.

7 weeks of veg so far.

HSO Lemon Garlic OG

Before Defoliation:

After (You can see the tops better):

 

[Snoopy36]

My intial point was that if you reduce your lighting and consolidate your plants into some kind of formation/pattern, you more than likely won't need an AC.

And what I'm saying is, you are using more light than the plant can even use, and you probably would achieve the same exact results and not worse using 3 lights and a proper layout. Like I said, plants can definitely be oversaturated with light. That point starts around 1500 PPFD. As a 1000w bulb puts out about 2100 PPFD in a square meter, you don't need to use one per plant, even to bush it out.

Can I see a pic of your plants?

I posted tons yesterday look a few pages back

 

[Snoopy36]

Here's one of my plants, before defoliation and after. I only defoliated to expose my final manifolded/mainlined plant's tops to the light and for better air flow. I'll probably veg for another week or so; I don't usually suggest anyone defoliate if their only reason is to "take some of the load off their plant" because this actually is more likely to hamstring the plant than increase growth by removing what you believe is using up resources, since your fan leaves are your solar-powered engines.

Anywho, my point is, I have over 50 tops and this plant is likely to bush out even more than I really want it to. I am only using a total of 274w between 3 COBs, exposing this plant to about 1.5 of the emitters, and growing two plants, but they're receiving 900-1000 PPFD, so they're growing faster than even my plants I had under two ViparSpectra V450s (which are actually 206w each). The point is, you don't need 1000w per plant to bush out your plant or max out your PPFD requirement, especially when you are overshooting it like you are.

7 weeks of veg so far.

HSO Lemon Garlic OG

Before Defoliation:
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After (You can see the tops better):
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That's only 7 weeks of veg? My set up is way different I think. I'm going to upload 2 pics. First is aug. 7th, second is sept 21. They get big quick.

 

[Budley Doright]

That's only 7 weeks of veg? My set up is way different I think. I'm going to upload 2 pics. First is aug. 7th, second is sept 21. They get big quick.

Good luck lol. Some just never give up .

 

[Olive Drab Green]

That's only 7 weeks of veg? My set up is way different I think. I'm going to upload 2 pics. First is aug. 7th, second is sept 21. They get big quick.

Not only have I been defoliating as I mentioned, I have been mainlining, training, and topping my plant, plus I keep my light low on it and only give it 4 hours of darkness. They stretch more when they want to reach for the light, or during flowering. I have a closet with low headroom.

Just because your plant looks bigger and bushier than mine doesn't indicate that it is more progressed or will yield more. Because of my mainlining and extreme topping, and because I keep optimal light on it, it only appears smaller. I like to keep my nodes nice and tight.

 

[Snoopy36]

Good luck lol. Some just never give up .

Lol!! Didn't know RIU could be so much fun

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Good luck lol. Some just never give up .

Like I said, you'll see, Bud. I guess Snoopy will, too.

 

[Budley Doright]

Here's one of my plants, before defoliation and after. I only defoliated to expose my final manifolded/mainlined plant's tops to the light and for better air flow. I'll probably veg for another week or so; I don't usually suggest anyone defoliate if their only reason is to "take some of the load off their plant" because this actually is more likely to hamstring the plant than increase growth by removing what you believe is using up resources, since your fan leaves are your solar-powered engines.

Anywho, my point is, I have over 50 tops and this plant is likely to bush out even more than I really want it to. I am only using a total of 274w between 3 COBs, exposing this plant to about 1.5 of the emitters, and growing two plants, but they're receiving 900-1000 PPFD, so they're growing faster than even my plants I had under two ViparSpectra V450s (which are actually 206w each). The point is, you don't need 1000w per plant to bush out your plant or max out your PPFD requirement, especially when you are overshooting it like you are.

7 weeks of veg so far.

HSO Lemon Garlic OG

Before Defoliation:
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After (You can see the tops better):
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Well that looks much better after the leaf pulling .

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Well that looks much better after the leaf pulling .

I actually think it's pretty ugly, but it was necessary. She'll recover and be where I need her to be.

 

[Budley Doright]

And there ya go again filling up someone else's thread with your pics ....... slapping forehead .

 

[Snoopy36]

Not only have I been defoliating as I mentioned, I have been mainlining, training, and topping my plant, plus I keep my light low on it and only give it 4 hours of darkness. They stretch more when they want to reach for the light, or during flowering. I have a closet with low headroom.

Just because your plant looks bigger and bushier than mine doesn't indicate that it is more progressed or will yield more. Because of my mainlining and extreme topping, and because I keep optimal light on it, it only appears smaller. I like to keep my nodes nice and tight.

Lol okay I don't think we're getting anywhere. What your doing is working beautifully for you and your desired results. What I'm doing is working for me as well. If you're looking for like some kind of virtual trophy, you got it! <][> <---Lmao that's the best I got!! Haha

 

[Olive Drab Green]

So let's say growing cannabis, a usual branch with donkey dick colas yields.. I dunno. Let's say an eighth or a quarter, sounds reasonable. I now have 50 colas. I have never topped this much, but my hypothesis is that I should get at least an eighth per branch at worst, a quarter per branch at best. That's 175-350g.

Not saying I am definitely going to get that, but that's my minimum estimate/hypothesis. That's about 6.25-12.50 ounces for one plant.

 

[Snoopy36]

So let's say growing cannabis, a usual branch with donkey dick colas yields.. I dunno. Let's say an eighth or a quarter, sounds reasonable. I now have 50 colas. I have never topped this much, but my hypothesis is that I should get at least an eighth per branch at worst, a quarter per branch at best. That's 175-350g.

Not saying I am definitely going to get that, but that's my minimum estimate/hypothesis. That's about 6.25-12.50 ounces for one plant.

I don't even know what's happening anymore lol. My issue is resolved. Thanks for everyone's input!

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Lol okay I don't think we're getting anywhere. What your doing is working beautifully for you and your desired results. What I'm doing is working for me as well. If you're looking for like some kind of virtual trophy, you got it! <][> <---Lmao that's the best I got!! Haha

I'm not looking to impress you, just giving you reason to trust me, as I feel that the revelation that I have only grown for about a year has made you think I don't know what I'm talking about.

I am positive that if you don't listen to what not just myself but what Doc has said to you, among others, that you will find you really are giving your plants too much light, and that you've wasted what you could have returned to your grow in supplies and profit. You really could even potentially stunt growth or harm your plant.

You should go research how other people do it. Google or the RIU searcg function. See how many plants people put under a single 1kW HPS and what those plants yield.

Please, don't let your mild bias and skepticism get in the way of your understanding. Don't think this is about me trying to be right, I've got nothing to gain by being right. I'm trying to help you achieve exactly what you are trying to, just more efficiently.

 

[Snoopy36]

I'm not looking to impress you, just giving you reason to trust me, as I feel that the revelation that I have only grown for about a year has made you think I don't know what I'm talking about.

I am positive that if you don't listen to what not just myself but what Doc has said to you, among others, that you will find you really are giving your plants too much light, and that you've wasted what you could have returned to your grow in supplies and profit. You really could even potentially stunt growth or harm your plant.

You should go research how other people do it. Google or the RIU searcg function. See how many plants people put under a single 1kW HPS and what those plants yield.

Please, don't let your mild bias and skepticism get in the way of your understanding. Don't think this is about me trying to be right, I've got nothing to gain by being right. I'm trying to help you achieve exactly what you are trying to, just more efficiently.

You're right, I am going to be completely honest here what Red has said has made the most sense to me so far. I did count you out once I heard that. But I promise you I will do my research and get to the bottom of it and either keep doing what I'm doing or adjust accordingly. I just think you can't expect someone to completely change up their grow space based upon what you found works best for you. I 100% trust and believe that you are successful and it works for you. But I'm telling you that what I'm doing works for me and several people I know who have disp as well as grow houses. I will take it into consideration and do some research