Please help!! AC broke down 1 week before harvest!!

Olive Drab Green

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And And lol. You state the stuff like you've actually tried it, not once saying that this is what you've read, well not until questioned and that is what grinds my gears lol. 5 plants total does not make for a great test sample. Also sorry for the high jack Snoop but you did say you were going to sleep so this should be interesting fodder upon wake up :).
Do you really think I'd do any of it without researching it thoroughly? Why do you think we have so many "Help! I'm fucked!" threads. Forgot to study.

I have tried it. Pretty much all I've stated.

5 grows, not 5 plants. Probably about 20-25 plants total. Got a picture of each one of them in different stages of life.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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Also, why would you not assume that if the rest of a plant roots in the dark that a clone wouldn't root better with a dark period?

I never once said you can't root 24/0. I would be willing to bet, though, that if you gave a clone 4-6 hours of darkness each night, you'd see some surprising results which concur with my correlation.
 
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Snoopy36

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And And lol. You state the stuff like you've actually tried it, not once saying that this is what you've read, well not until questioned and that is what grinds my gears lol. 5 plants total does not make for a great test sample. Also sorry for the high jack Snoop but you did say you were going to sleep so this should be interesting fodder upon wake up :).
Lmao interesting indeed
 

Dr. Who

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You know I have nothing but love for you, bro. That's just way too much light for 10 plants. Maybe the plants will grow with it, but likely not better than it would if you gave it the optimal amount of light instead of exponentially more than needed. It's obviously causing more problems than helping if she's created this thread. Like, I think the problems will only get worse, whereas the plants are not likely to underperform if she downgrade to an appropriate setup. I'm still asserting she should reduce the light fixtures to 2-3, and that she'll likely still have just what she needs for what she wants.
Welllll, yes and no on that.....If she was growing out 10 footers or taller and they're sativa's.....single fixture per plant is best.

BUT, 8' height says to me. White (flat) painted walls and overlapping light spacing for 4 max sized 1K air cooled hoods in line on the 24' line. These are exactly evenly spaced one end to the other....4 plants per light and the canopy area is filled but for space for you to get in and water or inspect on the far ends. Some smaller strains may have a gap between light fixtures. Some real bushy strains are trained for 2 a light....
 

Snoopy36

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Welllll, yes and no on that.....If she was growing out 10 footers or taller and they're sativa's.....single fixture per plant is best.

BUT, 8' height says to me. White (flat) painted walls and overlapping light spacing for 4 max sized 1K air cooled hoods in line on the 24' line. These are exactly evenly spaced one end to the other....4 plants per light and the canopy area is filled but for space for you to get in and water or inspect on the far ends. Some smaller strains may have a gap between light fixtures. Some real bushy strains are trained for 2 a light....
They are very spaced out, the plants just bush out because I stake them to open them up and allow all of the inner leaves to receive light. They end up growing whatever way I force them to by staking. I can barely walk between these plants in the room. I need to do my ninja crawl without affecting any buds! That's why I felt that with my spacing it's best this way so that every plant is receiving light.
 

schuylaar

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I am totally freaking out! It seems my 4ton ac unit stopped working around 4pm or so because it completely froze up, so I was told to turn it off and wait a few hours for it to thaw. Temp Was 115 degrees at it's highest for about 5 hours so far and I am 1 week away from harvest! Is this going to stress the plants and kill them? Should I harvest early because of this? I grow indoors, I have 10 lights in that room with 10 plants that are very bushy with several tops. My buds are already big and heavy so will my buds be okay even if the plants die because of this? The AC unit is now fixed I just have to wait for the temps to drop. Now the temp has finally dropped to about 90 but it's still very hot in there. Will the 5-6 hours of high heat kill them if I get them even if it goes back to normal temp in there?

Help! Are my babies dead!?!? Please advise, thanks!!
One week before harvest?:lol:Um, they're done.
 

Olive Drab Green

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They are very spaced out, the plants just bush out because I stake them to open them up and allow all of the inner leaves to receive light. They end up growing whatever way I force them to by staking. I can barely walk between these plants in the room. I need to do my ninja crawl without affecting any buds! That's why I felt that with my spacing it's best this way so that every plant is receiving light.
What he's trying to say is, every plant would receive the light it needs, arranged the way he's saying and I've been suggesting. And you could still bush them out. The bushing out is more about training than the light intensity. In fact, bushing it out is often used with the purpose of maximizing exposure of every leaf to the light. You don't need excess light to do what you are doing. Y'know?
 

Dr. Who

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Most Riddlers like @Dr. Who and myself tend to follow Rid's (@RM3) assertion that less is more. So, good start.

I believe from your schedule you're running synthetics? If you get the chance to look into organics, you should check out Roots Organics, and if you like Coco, maybe check out their original medium (coco, peat, perlite, pumice, and various amendments). Might be something as intriguing to you as supersoil. Not a soil, but a soilless organic mix. You also have FoxFarms if you're thinking supersoil, I just prefer the utility of soilless because it possesses the stability of soil while functioning similar to hydro. And in organics, you don't really have to pH.

I'd recommend the Formula 707 if it didn't hold so much water, but it does have less initial amendments, so you can construct it how you want instead of waiting 3-4 weeks to reamend or top dress. I like it, personally, but with the caveat of only being able to water every 5 days. If the Original weren't amended more heavily than 707, I'd roll with that or Greenlite for indoors.
?Riddler? I do many things differently. We just have found many (more like all) of the same things to be true in growing our plant. Twixt the 2 of us....I think we're over 80 years of experience!

Less is more, fits across the board in growing! As for lighting....I like having lots....6' and bushy is ok for single plants..If you grow sativa's,,,1K's are the only way in HID..I like more plants under that light myself.....It's a best effective use thing - and I know that's what your trying to convey in this 1k - 1 plant discussion !!
 

Olive Drab Green

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Not asking for help but thanks, just wanted to know if you had read any studies.......or just what you think may be happening. Two weeks too root would make me try something else honestly.
Not what I think is happening, Bud. Not going to do your research for you. Plants don't work differently depending on location. Botany's pretty much non-negotiable, and it states that auxins, which promote rooting, are active most in the dark.

Applying Clonex, which contains Indole-3-Butyric Acid doesn't change the way the plant roots, it just signals the cutting to start building roots where it's applied and after the initial stage of sealing/protecting the cut and force-signaling the rooting to begin (dessicating the effected stem portion in the process) the auxins take care of the rest. That said, the process is no different save you are signaling the plant to start rooting where it normally wouldn't have roots. Cannabis grows roots better in the dark than the light. Arguing this point is proving you know less about something than I do.
 
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Budley Doright

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Not what I think is happening, Bud. Not going to do your research for you. Plants don't work differently depending on location. Botany's pretty much non-negotiable, and it states that auxins, which promote rooting, are active most in the dark.

Applying Clonex, which contains Indole-3-Butyric Acid doesn't change the way the plant roots, it just signals the cutting to start building roots where it's applied and after the initial stage of sealing/protecting the cut and force-signaling the rooting to begin (dessicating the effected stem portion in the process) the auxins take care of the rest. That said, the process is no different save you are signaling the plant to start rooting where it normally wouldn't have roots. Cannabis grows roots better in the dark than the light. Arguing this point is proving you know less about something than I do.
Ok so no studies then, got it.
 

Budley Doright

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Not what I think is happening, Bud. Not going to do your research for you. Plants don't work differently depending on location. Botany's pretty much non-negotiable, and it states that auxins, which promote rooting, are active most in the dark.

Applying Clonex, which contains Indole-3-Butyric Acid doesn't change the way the plant roots, it just signals the cutting to start building roots where it's applied and after the initial stage of sealing/protecting the cut and force-signaling the rooting to begin (dessicating the effected stem portion in the process) the auxins take care of the rest. That said, the process is no different save you are signaling the plant to start rooting where it normally wouldn't have roots. Cannabis grows roots better in the dark than the light. Arguing this point is proving you know less about something than I do.
Who's arguing?
 
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