Possible cal&mag dificency Week5 flower

[kaydeezee]

Hi guys,

need a little help with what my next move will be? Still having a few issues with these bluedream ive grown from seed. I think it's defiantly a mobile dificency because it's spreading slowly and now im seeing it in the new growth too?

We're on week 5 for 2 of the girls and I have another that's 2wice the size ' just finished the stretch , so I have 3 plants of the same strain in the same pots with the same nutrients.

Temp's : 26c/29c night Temps 18c/21c

Organic soil light mix

Nutrients: Ionic Growth technology nutrients

Calmag: for when veg under LEDs

Superthrive: when transplanting

Watering 1litre every 2/3 days depending on temp's
Watering scedule is water/feed/water/feed

Lighting : leds for veg and first 2weeks of flower then switched to a 600watt sunmaster red specrtlrum

Ph : I'm 90% sure it's in the range of 6.2/6.8
My pen broke and I haven't had chance to grab another one just yet ' but I'm using my strips and sulution and it's in the green area so I'm happy with the ph.

I haven't flushed any of my plants at all ' thay are 75days from seed

First pictures is the healthier or the 2 plants on week 5 flower

Second picture is the one with we most problems

Third picture is the 1 that is 2 weeks in to flower ' veg under CFL and veg for a extra 2weeks, so 60 day veg for the healthy one.

Any advice on flushing and exactly how one would go about doing it if needs must. Do you flush all 9 gallons of ph water through all at once continuously untill the 3x amount has passed through or do I flush 3gal today then wait a day and another 3gal and once again a day later?? So what I mean is ' over a 7 day period , do I spread the flush out or all at once ??

Any help would be great guys thank you

 

[thumper60]

Hi guys,

need a little help with what my next move will be? Still having a few issues with these bluedream ive grown from seed. I think it's defiantly a mobile dificency because it's spreading slowly and now im seeing it in the new growth too?

We're on week 5 for 2 of the girls and I have another that's 2wice the size ' just finished the stretch , so I have 3 plants of the same strain in the same pots with the same nutrients.

Temp's : 26c/29c night Temps 18c/21c

Organic soil light mix

Nutrients: Ionic Growth technology nutrients

Calmag: for when veg under LEDs

Superthrive: when transplanting

Watering 1litre every 2/3 days depending on temp's
Watering scedule is water/feed/water/feed

Lighting : leds for veg and first 2weeks of flower then switched to a 600watt sunmaster red specrtlrum

Ph : I'm 90% sure it's in the range of 6.2/6.8
My pen broke and I haven't had chance to grab another one just yet ' but I'm using my strips and sulution and it's in the green area so I'm happy with the ph.

I haven't flushed any of my plants at all ' thay are 75days from seed

First pictures is the healthier or the 2 plants on week 5 flowerView attachment 3871027 View attachment 3871033

Second picture is the one with we most problems View attachment 3871034 View attachment 3871035

Third picture is the 1 that is 2 weeks in to flower ' veg under CFL and veg for a extra 2weeks, so 60 day veg for the healthy one.View attachment 3871036

Any advice on flushing and exactly how one would go about doing it if needs must. Do you flush all 9 gallons of ph water through all at once continuously untill the 3x amount has passed through or do I flush 3gal today then wait a day and another 3gal and once again a day later?? So what I mean is ' over a 7 day period , do I spread the flush out or all at once ??

Any help would be great guys thank you

looks like they starving,i woundnt flush

 

[Tupapa]

 

[kaydeezee]

looks like they starving,i woundnt flush

I have been giving them 7ml of bloom what it said on the bottle to every 1 litre , this gives me a 300 ppm and my tap water is 150/250 ppms so I total of 550ppms when o test the mix just before I feed' is this to low??

If this amount is to low shoild I raise it to 800 / 1000 / 1200 /1500 ppms

 

[thumper60]

I have been giving them 7ml of bloom what it said on the bottle to every 1 litre , this gives me a 300 ppm and my tap water is 150/250 ppms so I total of 550ppms when o test the mix just before I feed' is this to low??

If this amount is to low shoild I raise it to 800 / 1000 / 1200 /1500 ppms

ya buds look good,but the whole plant look very pale witch tells me u swiched to bloom fert to soon bump up the n just a smidge u got 3-4 more weeks

 

[kaydeezee]

ya buds look good,but the whole plant look very pale witch tells me u swiched to bloom fert to soon bump up the n just a smidge u got 3-4 more weeks

Can I add a little veg nut with a smaller dose of bloom to make up the N??

 

[Tupapa]

Yes

 

[kaydeezee]

Wow!! I usually never go by more than what's on the bottle but to get the ppm up around 900 I had to add 16ml per litre along with 4ml NPK ' then ph down to around 6.6/6.8

Fingers crossed thay handle it , these bluedream suposed to be heavy feeders but I wasn't sure if my indica dom version would apply to the same principle 'because "I for some reason thought taking it easy would be better than going all out over fert lol

#experianceiskey

 

[OldMedUser]

Watering 1litre every 2/3 days depending on temp's
Watering scedule is water/feed/water/feed

Do you not soak the whole pot when you water? Soak it good then allow to get almost bone dry then soak again.

Here's a better problem chart for you.



And a problem flow chart too. Seems to make sense.



I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded Jorge Cervantes Grow basics books first and getting some more. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download. They got lots. Book looks great and complete like the real one.

 

[kaydeezee]

Do you not soak the whole pot when you water? Soak it good then allow to get almost bone dry then soak again.

Here's a better problem chart for you.

View attachment 3871364

And a problem flow chart too. Seems to make sense.

View attachment 3871365

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded Jorge Cervantes Grow basics books first and getting some more. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download. They got lots. Book looks great and complete like the real one.

Thank I will be using these charts religiously from now on lol
Happy growing friend

 

[Dr. Who]

You fed it too much P too early!

Classic high P bloom food damage!

Solution - next run, don't start the use of "bloom" foods till week 3 after the lighting change to bloom! Let them get the higher N for the stretch!

 

[kaydeezee]

You fed it too much P too early!

Classic high P bloom food damage!

Solution - next run, don't start the use of "bloom" foods till week 3 after the lighting change to bloom! Let them get the higher N for the stretch!

I'm a little confused about the cause 'because I dint start feeding them bloom untill the 3rd week so based on that maybe I didn't feed enough and that resulted in the red spotting down the middle of the leaves and the pale look to the first two girls compared to the 3rd plant in the last picture??

Well I went and gave them a good feed yesterday so I will check on them in a hour and post some info on weather they look a little more happy lol
Thanx man,

 

[guardiangk]

You fed it too much P too early!

Classic high P bloom food damage!

Solution - next run, don't start the use of "bloom" foods till week 3 after the lighting change to bloom! Let them get the higher N for the stretch!

Exactly.

 

[Dr. Who]

I'm a little confused about the cause 'because I dint start feeding them bloom untill the 3rd week so based on that maybe I didn't feed enough and that resulted in the red spotting down the middle of the leaves and the pale look to the first two girls compared to the 3rd plant in the last picture??

Well I went and gave them a good feed yesterday so I will check on them in a hour and post some info on weather they look a little more happy lol
Thanx man,

Hmm, that changes everything! Still can be a factor!

Is it still progressing. How does the new growth look?

I see you imply that you only used Ca/Mg for veg.? Don't stop! Start to finish!

What do you pH to get that value?

Now the biggie.....What are you feeding? INCLUDE ANY SUPPLEMENTS! How much at a time?
What did you feed in veg.....(might help me here, with everything else)

 

[kaydeezee]

Growth technology nutrients
Formulex 5ml -- seedlings
Ionic-grow 7ml -- veg
Ionic-bloom 7ml --bloom
Green fuse grow 1ml --veg
Liquid silica 1ml -- veg
calmag 1ml -- veg/mid flower stopped week 3

I waterd half doses all the way through untill week 3 flower I ph my sulution at the end down to 6.6/6.8
I stopped feeding liquid silica a few weeks ago because to much is not good for the soil.

Superthrive gets given with the feed when I see thay are stressed' maybe from defoliating or transplanting?
New growth around the buds look very healthy apart from a little tiny bit of fade but healthy from what I can tell ??

The buds look nice' smell nice and seem to be flying along in terms of production?


This strain is suposed to be bluedream 'but not too sure because the seeds came in a "Local seed shop packaging and not a recognised breeder?
However I like what I see and think' if thay are bluedream that thay ate indica dom?
Most likely blueberry pheno?
Short/stocky/indica leaves structure
Possibly!! 9week strain?

My question is should I wait to flush untill week 8 like I was planing on with these plants??

Or,should I flush this plant now at week 5 day 4 flower?
Will she make it through another 2weeks untill the flush?? And would that make any diffrence now?

Still new to all this' but I don't panic any more and the more I see things like this 'the more experience I am gaining.

Couple pictures from lights out
Day 33 flower Any advice would be great!!

P.s thinking of going dwc next and usING the LUCASFORMUL 1 part flora nova bloom feeding regime??
Any ideas?