The COB effect...

[Gquebed]

No nothing. You were right. The bud you show'd in post #34 was the greatest I've ever seen, under any form of light!!! Sorry I doubted your comments. Cob is the greatest form of light, for someone to think they can grow great bud under anything else is just nonsense and i know that now.

Dont be a dick. We both know the pics arent great. You wanted to see em though...so.. say something honest...
Just dont be a dick.

I never said cob was the best for growing. I said im sold on em. For a number of reasons. Quality bud, they produce just as much as hps...and the biggest reason... they are way easier for me to keep my enviro totally consistent, without fucking around with a lot of fans and shit.

I just set my a/c and walk away knowing i am 50rh and 77 to 81f all day everyday... thats it. Done.

 

[sixstring2112]

No nothing. You were right. The bud you show'd in post #34 was the greatest I've ever seen, under any form of light!!! Sorry I doubted your comments. Cob is the greatest form of light, for someone to think they can grow great bud under anything else is just nonsense and i know that now.

Lol you remind me of someone i know.would almost swear you are him from all the posts i have read of yours

 

[a mongo frog]

Lol you remind me of someone i know.would almost swear you are him from all the posts i have read of yours

Is he a gardener?

 

[a mongo frog]

.so.. say something honest...

I think your a great gardener. I also think you might of done better under DE. The pic is of something I'm doing under DE. I know not the best, but ill figure it out one day. About 10 days out i think.

 

[sixstring2112]

Is he a gardener?

yes and a farmer

 

[a mongo frog]

yes and a farmer

If his first name starts with an S then i am him!!!!!

 

[Gquebed]

I think your a great gardener. I also think you might of done better under DE. The pic is of something I'm doing under DE. I know not the best, but ill figure it out one day. About 10 days out i think.

Dont have the height for DE or i wouldve given it a go...

 

[sixstring2112]

If his first name starts with an S then i am him!!!!!

are you a cattle rancher in montana ?

 

[a mongo frog]

are you a cattle rancher in montana ?

No I'm a metal worker from California. And dabble in small amounts of cannabis as a hobby.

 

[cdgmoney250]

No I'm a metal worker from California. And dabble in small amounts of cannabis as a hobby.

If it's such a small hobby, why are you a big LED troll? Why do you always have a negative opinion of somebodies positive experience with LED's and then demand proof of their experience? And why do have such an opinion about them if you aren't willing to try them out yourself?

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Like i said...the pics dont do justice.

But what i can say is that the lockout on this run reduced my yield by 30 to 40% of normal. So my trim was obviously reduced too by about the same. However, when i did my hash run with the reduced amount of trim (reduced further by the fact that not a single lower bud was included, as was usual) i almost doubled my hash yield. Almost doubled... i cringe at the thought of what it couldve been had i a full yield.

But more importantly, the buds... as i said, rock solid all the way down to the bottom and i did not mulch a single one for hash. Not one.

PLUS... the bud that i have is so coated with resin that when chopped and rolled up they barely burn. The resin bubbles up and snuffs the cherry...

Maybe guys are doing that with hps, but i never could and i have never seen it any thing of the like in my 40+ years of smoking weed. Nothing like it at all.

So im sold. Just have to dial it all in as solid as my enviroment now.

I'm interested. Thank you for your perspective and credible proof of your ability. I really appreciate it.

Here is a headband flowered for a month under only HPS and then under a rotation including overlap of 2Hortilux Super HPS 600's and 1 315 LEC. I just bought the lamp recently.





Again I am not trying to debate this I really want to know if I should consider this route for my basement room when I build it.

My last 3 harvested plants had the benefit of a fuller spectrum and the flavor and potency is so obviously better. Like great outdoor almost with the full flavor and psychodelic high.

So I am pretty sure I know what you are saying.

I wish I could compare some samples.

And I may try one for veg. I am mostly concerned with the heat I rely on at night while the rooms are going. I use it to offset my propane use. Saves at least $500 a season.

 

[a mongo frog]

If it's such a small hobby, why are you a big LED troll?

Only to annoy you. Out side of you i love LED.

 

[jillxjilly]

Fascinating thread, thank you

 

[cdgmoney250]

Only to annoy you. Out side of you i love LED.

Your posts clearly support that...

Can we see what your talking about? We keep hearing about this better quality and more resinous bud, but where is it? Where is the different looking bud?

So you have no pics of your cob bud? I really want to see the huge difference. I too dropped the coin and got some cobs, Im just to scared to make jump being how we all know hps quality is off the hook. Just want to see what your talkinmg about, this huge difference and all.

No nothing. You were right. The bud you show'd in post #34 was the greatest I've ever seen, under any form of light!!! Sorry I doubted your comments. Cob is the greatest form of light, for someone to think they can grow great bud under anything else is just nonsense and i know that now.

Thanks for all your baseless contributions.
The pic you posted shows so clearly how much better DE is than LED. We are all a bunch of ass hats for even trying different tech and especially for liking the results. Sorry HID master grower...

 

[Gquebed]

I'm interested. Thank you for your perspective and credible proof of your ability. I really appreciate it.

Here is a headband flowered for a month under only HPS and then under a rotation including overlap of 2Hortilux Super HPS 600's and 1 315 LEC. I just bought the lamp recently.

View attachment 3871548



Again I am not trying to debate this I really want to know if I should consider this route for my basement room when I build it.

My last 3 harvested plants had the benefit of a fuller spectrum and the flavor and potency is so obviously better. Like great outdoor almost with the full flavor and psychodelic high.

So I am pretty sure I know what you are saying.

I wish I could compare some samples.

And I may try one for veg. I am mostly concerned with the heat I rely on at night while the rooms are going. I use it to offset my propane use. Saves at least $500 a season.

That is some serious frost on that bud. Very well done! Id like to sample that one!

Thanks for the compliments.

Having a fuller spectrum is by far a better way to go, obviously. There is no debating that. But for those who for whatever reason cant make that work, the COBs, to me, are an easy way to go for top tier results. Expensive, but easy.

I just grow my own meds in my basment. Having a 750cfm fan cool my pair of 1000s plus a/c in my 5x9 space was just ridicous. Had backdraft probs with my hot water heater, had to pipe in make up air, etc etc... hps did a great job but just wasnt practical. These cobs are perfect for me. My enviro is dialled right in, spot on and is rock solid consistent with no fuss at all. I can concentrate on the flowers now.

And for some top tier gardeners too. Ttystikk and Grow Err on this site will sing the praises of COB too and they are the ones that convinced me to jump. Have a look at their flowers and chat them up if you need to know anything...theyve been on the cob boat much longer than me...

 

[Moflow]

What i have experienced.
plants under hps in soil take 1.0 - 1.2 ec Max in flower.
Same plants under Cobs at 1.2 ec are eating themselves so I've upped feed to 1.4 - 1.5 ec.
Third run with Cobs and the plants finished around a week earlier in first 2 runs and I'm expecting the same again.
One of the things I've noticed is now Temps outside are cold the room temps with Cobs on are around 21 - 23 oC 71-2f.
That sounds too cold...... but that's a good summers day here, plants look OK though.
I grow short squat plants due to low headroom and I also believe there is less stretch in flower with 600 watts 3500k cobs compared to 660 watts 400v hps but maybe I batter them down with high light levels.
Less larfy with good looking buds.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

That is some serious frost on that bud. Very well done! Id like to sample that one!

Thanks for the compliments.

Having a fuller spectrum is by far a better way to go, obviously. There is no debating that. But for those who for whatever reason cant make that work, the COBs, to me, are an easy way to go for top tier results. Expensive, but easy.

I just grow my own meds in my basment. Having a 750cfm fan cool my pair of 1000s plus a/c in my 5x9 space was just ridicous. Had backdraft probs with my hot water heater, had to pipe in make up air, etc etc... hps did a great job but just wasnt practical. These cobs are perfect for me. My enviro is dialled right in, spot on and is rock solid consistent with no fuss at all. I can concentrate on the flowers now.

And for some top tier gardeners too. Ttystikk and Grow Err on this site will sing the praises of COB too and they are the ones that convinced me to jump. Have a look at their flowers and chat them up if you need to know anything...theyve been on the cob boat much longer than me...

Thank you for the compliment.

And I like all I read except.....

I am familiar with the growers you mention. But that first one is not an authority on lights or growing in my opinion. Just look at his room and plants. I try to follow the direction of much more experienced and educated sources.

And my HID exhaust is set up to heat my living room in winter and uses our house ac for cooling at a reasonable cost increase.

So quality will have to offset price for me by quite a bit at this point. But as I said. I am paying attention.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

What i have experienced.
plants under hps in soil take 1.0 - 1.2 ec Max in flower.
Same plants under Cobs at 1.2 ec are eating themselves so I've upped feed to 1.4 - 1.5 ec.
Third run with Cobs and the plants finished around a week earlier in first 2 runs and I'm expecting the same again.
One of the things I've noticed is now Temps outside are cold the room temps with Cobs on are around 21 - 23 oC 71-2f.
That sounds too cold...... but that's a good summers day here, plants look OK though.
I grow short squat plants due to low headroom and I also believe there is less stretch in flower with 600 watts 3500k cobs compared to 660 watts 400v hps but maybe I batter them down with high light levels.
Less larfy with good looking buds.

I have no cob experience to compare most of this but my flowering plants would starve by week three in Ocean Forest with only 1.2ec of fertilizer.

They usually get up to 1.6 on average before I taper down for ripening under 2 600 HPS lamps.

 

[Moflow]

I have no cob experience to compare most of his but my flowering plants would starve by week three in Ocean Forest with only 1.2ec of fertilizer.

They usually get up to 1.6 on average before I taper down for ripening under 2 600 HPS lamps.

Just different strains like different ec's.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Just different strains like different ec's.

Yup.
And that is just one of many variables.