Mmma - stay away!!!

[Fozze]

Sir i mean really what do u have against this gentlemen? Are u that mad? I mean no offense just saying his wife has cancer and he's probably having a tough time like anyone would. can't we just support him with words instead of belittling him? Maybe there's something im missing?

No worries, brother! I implied he or she was acting Iike an asshole for the snide fox news type mindless dribble. He blew up. Fair. I'll take the blame for the first few remarks. I thought the fuck you's and the triggered comments were a little shallow and immature, but clearly it has little or nothing to do with me. Haha...talk about triggered! People that lash out like that usually have something else up with them. You know, I see it this way, these folks have to live with putting Jeff sessions in power, they have to live with the fact that they put people like Spicer, conway, priebus, and steve bannon in charge of our country. I'd lash out too if I'd contributed. As I've said before, I'll defend a trump vote, I completely understand. However, I'm not tolerating hate, I'm not tolerating the lies, the #fakenews, and the complete and utter disdain that these people have for the truth. Honestly, I feel like these people live with a bigger burden than I do.

First press conference is about the false reporting on the inauguration crowd and about the reaction to his CIA speech (which was mostly about the inauguration crowd bs). Verifiable metro statistics, flight statistics, photos, personal accounts, and we're somehow all wrong? Holy fucking shit if you don't see what going on there is something wrong with you!

Again, no worries. I've got plenty to deal with and plenty bigger things to worry about than some guy on a forum with anger issues. Im actually surprised he didn't say he wished it on my wife! I didn't mean to draw sympathy or call him out per se. Just important to always try to understand where people are possibly coming from. He needed an opportunity to realize that life aint about making backhanded comments to random people. Oh well. Bottom line is that i don't have to look into their mirrors every morning. I get to proudly look in mine and know what I do for others. Cheers to all! I hope the couple of you find some objectivity and some compassion. To the rest of you, nice work!

Peace

 

[dmxcrew03402]

Cant' agree more sir, very well said and thats very kind of you to recognize your words that couldve been used differently. Lets hope all of us can look in the mirror and see our best kind self looking back. His cabinet picks scare me as well. A positive is i believe a movement has started seeing the groups of people yesterday organize and voice their opinions was a beautiful thing. You would think an online forum about a plant that produces love nuggets would be a kind place. I guess anywhere on the web is subject to mean spirited dialogue. Hope all is well with everyone

 

[chemphlegm]

....You would think an online forum about a plant that produces love nuggets would be a kind place.

I know right, until I got my card every person I ever met from childhood up that used mj was good people. When they got older they were Peaceful folks with loving families, always calm and happy. These bastard medical cards messed up every thing, might be in the ink

 

[TheMan13]

Cant' agree more sir, very well said and thats very kind of you to recognize your words that couldve been used differently. Lets hope all of us can look in the mirror and see our best kind self looking back. His cabinet picks scare me as well. A positive is i believe a movement has started seeing the groups of people yesterday organize and voice their opinions was a beautiful thing. You would think an online forum about a plant that produces love nuggets would be a kind place. I guess anywhere on the web is subject to mean spirited dialogue. Hope all is well with everyone

An intelligible cause and message is paramount in any legitimate/honorable movement? I sadly heard all the same leftist identity politics/soaring rhetoric deployed by the failed Clinton campaign for far to long and by the same celebrities and media outlets. IMHO a better use of these individuals time and effort maybe understanding what has gone wrong with that tactic rather than angrily doubling down on the same failed divisive propaganda. Such a display of anger, hatred, intolerance and bullying was not the objective/goal of the Womens Suffrage movement's march on DC a century ago, nor the Civil Rights movement witnessed a half century later. Simply, those movements were not about this political ideology team sport we're witnessing today (post Nixon) and if it was those movements may never have achieved populist sentiment and in turn the success they had.

If our movement ending the criminal prohibition of marijuana is ever to succeed we cannot allow it to be captured by the Democrat party, leftist politics and this intolerance, as is the topic of this thread. We would not have achieved 2/3 medicinal and 10% recreational states without the right wing politics of states rights. Our movement has achieved populist sentiment beyond Democrat/Republican lines for decades now and our final fight is all about the abuse of Federalism to achieve this criminal prohibition of marijuana through the CSA. IMHO this has never been a legitimate purview of Federalism's use of force, yet the Democrat and Republican establishments seem to have a vested interest in it's misuse today. With that clear cause and message maybe a march on DC is just what our movement needs to finally succeed ...

 

[tree trimmer]

I know right, until I got my card every person I ever met from childhood up that used mj was good people. When they got older they were Peaceful folks with loving families, always calm and happy. These bastard medical cards messed up every thing, might be in the ink

How did you get chem-phlegm?Smokin crack?or meth? or ink?

 

[Fozze]

Trump team translations:

Alternative facts = lies, exaggerations, intentionally misleading statements with no basis in reality; mainly perpetrated by thin skinned narcissistic sociopaths or done so as directed by said persons. No issues of integrity as alternative fact users had zero to begin with

Libtard = someone able to understand the pain and suffering of others; also known as empathy; someone inclined assess and deal with social issues; probably likes Indian and Thai food

Snowflake = an individual that understands the utility of many social welfare programs; a person that believes that basic services can be provided to all; a person capable of understanding shit happens, things go wrong and crack babies are born, but it is the duty of society as a whole to help each other

Triggered = a incendiary term used by antagonistic assholes to ask others if their offensive insults were heard. Usually preceded by completely and intentionally offensive statements; generally this tactic is used only on the Internet where the antagonist is safest; additionally, it is used as an excuse to leave a conversation in which the antagonist is bested by facts and superior intellect

Trump voter = someone understandably jaded or pissed off at the political system; also known as independent voters

Trump supporter = individual incapable of critical thinking. Devoid of analytical skills; likely can't tell the difference between fact and opinion; likely unable to do mathematics; keys hybrid cars for fun; likely opiate addicted; generally racist and scared of strong women; sole proprietors worried a Mexican will take their job; blends fact and opinion to further a fictitious narrative

Alt-right = neo nazis; racists, fascists; white supremacists; should be punched at first site

Fake news = any news source that isn't breibart news (is that an oxymoron?); the more fact based, the more the source is deemed fake; the Pavlov's dog of social media mind control; Bannon approved

 

[chemphlegm]

How did you get chem-phlegm?Smokin crack?or meth? or ink?

 

[Queef]

But anyways enough political. Check out the Seed-Strain-Clone section of the mmma site that's what I'm currently looking for.

 

[tree trimmer]

Trump team translations:

Alternative facts = lies, exaggerations, intentionally misleading statements with no basis in reality; mainly perpetrated by thin skinned narcissistic sociopaths or done so as directed by said persons. No issues of integrity as alternative fact users had zero to begin with

Libtard = someone able to understand the pain and suffering of others; also known as empathy; someone inclined assess and deal with social issues; probably likes Indian and Thai food

Snowflake = an individual that understands the utility of many social welfare programs; a person that believes that basic services can be provided to all; a person capable of understanding shit happens, things go wrong and crack babies are born, but it is the duty of society as a whole to help each other

Triggered = a incendiary term used by antagonistic assholes to ask others if their offensive insults were heard. Usually preceded by completely and intentionally offensive statements; generally this tactic is used only on the Internet where the antagonist is safest; additionally, it is used as an excuse to leave a conversation in which the antagonist is bested by facts and superior intellect

Trump voter = someone understandably jaded or pissed off at the political system; also known as independent voters

Trump supporter = individual incapable of critical thinking. Devoid of analytical skills; likely can't tell the difference between fact and opinion; likely unable to do mathematics; keys hybrid cars for fun; likely opiate addicted; generally racist and scared of strong women; sole proprietors worried a Mexican will take their job; blends fact and opinion to further a fictitious narrative

Alt-right = neo nazis; racists, fascists; white supremacists; should be punched at first site

Fake news = any news source that isn't breibart news (is that an oxymoron?); the more fact based, the more the source is deemed fake; the Pavlov's dog of social media mind control; Bannon approved

Wow Fonzi,i understand your bitterness,i didn't know you had a crack addicted baby.
my apology's.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Such a display of anger, hatred, intolerance and bullying was not the objective/goal of the Womens Suffrage movement's march on DC a century ago...

Eh? Where are you getting that from? There were millions of people marching, and it was by and large a peaceful protest. Where's all this "bullying" you're referring to?

We would not have achieved 2/3 medicinal and 10% recreational states without the right wing politics of states rights.

Right wing politics are diametrically opposed to progress, including that of marijuana. Look no further than the great right wing Attorney General that we now have. He is on record opposing marijuana use and legalization.

"Good people don't smoke marijuana"
- Jeff Sessions

 

[st0wandgrow]

Wow Fonzi,i understand your bitterness,i didn't know you had a crack addicted baby.
my apology's.

You don't talk to people like that in person, so why do it here?

Little man syndrome?

 

[TheMan13]

Keep trusting those progressive lawyers, blindly look to them for leadership while not questioning it and then forget about the reality they know you lack the ability see/understand.

Take it from one of Obama's progressive AGs facing the reality of 2/3 medicinal and 10% recreation state laws across this country and consider what he stated under oath and before our Congress: What's obvious to one is perhaps not obvious to another" ...

I'll wait for AG Sessions to face the reality of this inquiry while working for a POTUS neither a lawyer, establishment or ideological. Assuming Trump/Sessions will lack the integrity of their progressive predecessor political lawyers and toe some establishment line seems uninformed at best IMHO I'll hope for change ...

 

[chemphlegm]

:


the honest answer to him, is marijuana will negate many physical and mental diagnosis, prescribed drugs, imprisonment..all of which cuts into even automotive workers' retirement monthy income, richly invested in private prisons and big pharma, follow the money

 

[pergamum362]

Well said @TheMan13

 

[st0wandgrow]

Keep trusting those progressive lawyers, blindly look to them for leadership while not questioning it and then forget about the reality they know you lack the ability see/understand.

Maybe one day I will be as enlightened as you....

 

[Fozze]

Jeff Sessions and John Gore....Christ! I'm not hopeful, but we're all obviously going to let this play out. The standard is simple. We just want honesty/the truth at this point. I hear ya, man13. We have to question all authority. Obama's administration surely lied. NSA was expanded and sure, he hired some guys that weren't truly good dudes. Could that administration gone further with mj, yeah. For sure. We appreciate hands off, but they HAD the opportunity. Sucks for sure.

My concern is this: we hired a PR manipulator. I'm not trying to be rude. Hear me out. The carrier deal. Great. Largely very well recieved. However, the money they saved in tax breaks is being directly invested in automation. Those jobs are toast in a year! Keystone and Dakota pipelines seem like they will bring us money and energy independence, but if you dig a bit, those pipelines are export lines. Now, there is still a financial benefit to selling this oil, but it's not the benefit we've been told. Playing into all of this was that temper tantrum about the crowd size. 'Alternative facts' and statements like 'it is never our intent to lie to you, but we may disagree with the facts.' Thats not political. That's an issue of honesty and integrity. Did Obama's guy duck and sidestep? Sure. It's politics afterall, but this was crazy enough that even his supporters should be giving them the side eye.

We have a good opportunity to learn from each other if we can drop the anger first statements and remain unbutthurt when someone else explains their thoughts. I appreciate the perspective, man13. I'm not a fan of the dems either, and I don't think they learned a damn thing! They'll probably run Chuck Schumer in 2020 and still won't get it after another defeat.

 

[TheMan13]

Maybe one day I will be as enlightened as you....

Let's not forget I was also a sucker (regardless of my education/experience) applauding the progressive lawyers (Obama/Holder) taking charge of the CSA back in 2008, especially given all the soaring rhetoric they used in the lead up and the reality of the rapidly changing state laws.

Let me be clear I in no way believe Jeff Sessions is a friend of our movement, but I do not believe that precludes him from doing the right thing. At this point he can only be better or the same?

Furthermore, the reality of firing thousands of federal unionized DOJ lawyers with political aspirations and their tens of thousands of unionized supporting staff members (LEO, prison guards, ect) is not an easy political task for either a Democrat or a Republican. Only time will tell and it always does if you are willing to pay attention ...

 

[TheMan13]

For the past year we've watched MMJ raids occur across our state no longer soely funded by the DOJ, but rather with the help of Homeland Security resources to negate the Congressional ban on DOJ spending to attack medical marijuana. I assume no such collusion will occur under the leadership of Gen. John Kelly as he replaces the progressive lawyer Jeh Johnson and his DOJ ties. Can we at least applaud this?

 

[st0wandgrow]

For the past year we've watched MMJ raids occur across our state no longer soely funded by the DOJ, but rather with the help of Homeland Security resources to negate the Congressional ban on DOJ spending to attack medical marijuana. I assume no such collusion will occur under the leadership of Gen. John Kelly as he replaces the progressive lawyer Jeh Johnson and his DOJ ties. Can we at least applaud this?

We can agree that people being harassed and imprisoned over growing a plant needs to stop. Where we might part ways is that Republican lawmakers/officials will move us any closer to that goal.

In order to get to a point where people aren't being locked up over weed we need to get corporate money out of politics. Both parties are largely in bed with corporate America, so I don't see any real advocates in DC right now save for perhaps Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul. Others pay it some lip service, but I don't know that it goes beyond that.

 

[chemphlegm]

For the past year we've watched MMJ raids occur across our state no longer soely funded by the DOJ, but rather with the help of Homeland Security resources to negate the Congressional ban on DOJ spending to attack medical marijuana. I assume no such collusion will occur under the leadership of Gen. John Kelly as he replaces the progressive lawyer Jeh Johnson and his DOJ ties. Can we at least applaud this?

maybe America will be great, after it sucks some for some