UncleBuck
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that article says neo-nazi richard spencer is just one degree of separation from trump.
is your fellow trump supporter @squarepush3r a liar?
milo is so fab
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is your fellow trump supporter @squarepush3r a liar?
squarepush3r
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Buck, you know your arguments are really grasping/disingenuous when you resort to shady screen grabs.
From the article
So, in 2007, Miller work with Spencer to organize a debate at Duke University about immigration. Laughable really. Desperate. Sad.
At least you can eat well now that the new month of food stamps refreshed.
Also, the Spencer quote you took a picture of main link is here
http://www.radixjournal.com/journal/2016/9/28/facing-the-future-as-a-minority
And what does this have to do with Milo?
ArcticGranite
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Don't even go there. Nov 8 is a finely horrific example of limited choices limited thinking.
It's terrible logic. Using it you'll choose Ms Dittman as a Nazi or the Left being wrong.
Neither choice being correct.
We have different motivators. I see uber right wing ties and am alarmed. You see Nazi's. I see Ms Dittmans statement, Rabbi Packers statements, readings about Bannon. You have an agenda to oust Trump in any and all ways possible. You have history, you're on uber alert. I'm alarmed.
I want to see Trump succeed creating jobs/industry, rolling back onerous regulations, securing borders, having strong military (not using it).
Being honest- there's a lot I'm hopeful for yet tempered with a lot I'm fearful of he might do. This nation and its citizens have checks and balances that work. There's no chance a fascist/totalitarian regime can be foisted on us unawares. Martial law being the closest thing to it and that would suck.
UncleBuck
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it was less of an immigration debate and more of an anti-immigration debate hosting avowed white nationalist peter brimelow.
but yeah, go ahead and downplay having multiple neo-nazis advisors to trump in the white house.
UncleBuck
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"it can't happen here" may be the dumbest fucking thing you've ever said, and that's especially impressive considering you claim to be so ignorant of history that you had no idea what the hitler star of david even was.
it can happen here.
ArcticGranite
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Right now the citizens are crips and bloods. Uncle Sam turns on us and allies both. A manufactured constitutional crisis where we begin systematically losing liberties would galvanize this nation instantly. Everyone would resist political party be damned.
UncleBuck
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you're really fucking dumb. i mean that in all sincerity.
ArcticGranite
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I'm optimistic. Armed Forces from USA have been world wide fighting some noble causes WWII and a lot of boondoggles. They've seen oppression/tyranny, know what it is. Their are a lot of folks that would resist anything other than constitutional government.
squarepush3r
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Debates have 2 sides to arguments, and helping to organize a debate doesn't mean the organizer is taking 1 side or another.
So basically, in summary, Trump advisor 10 years ago who was involved at a debate at a university, someone else was at the debate also and it was anti-immigration topic. Therefore Trump literally Hitler.
UncleBuck
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no, hitler had the balls to fight russia.
JackBeanstalker
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Hey bro, do you grow weed?
UncleBuck
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no, i am a bisexual yoga instructor.
tangerinegreen555
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ttystikk
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And it wasn't any better an idea then than it is now, lol
SneekyNinja
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Scorched Earth is what beat the Nazis in Russia, it gave Russian industry time to reestablish in the East and start pumping out more modern military hardware.
The Red Army was severely underfunded with WAY out of date gear and tanks when the Nazis invaded initially.
This was due to Stalin's purges where he murdered most of his high ranking, experienced military officers because his biggest fear was someone seizing power from him.
Unclebaldrick
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Agreed about the effect of the purges. Not so much on the tanks. Admittedly there were not that many of them and they were poorly used, but the T-34 and KV class were both in service at the time and gave the Nazis a nasty surprise. German tanks were not particularly good at the time, it was their tactics that won the day.
Scorched earth didn't beat the Wermacht in Russia but it did not help. Mussolini was partially to blame for stupidly invading Greece which required a German bail-out and pushed the timeline back for Barbarossa by a month or two. Then Hitler fucked up and sent his armor South when they should have headed straight for Moscow. By the winter of '41 the Russian people were starting to worry less about Stalin then they did Hitler and the opportunity for a quick end was lost.
SneekyNinja
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The T34 was designed earlier but production issues meant it wasn't until around Stalingrad ('42 if I remember correctly) that they were deployed in numbers that could rival the Nazi Tigers on the battlefield.
Unclebaldrick
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Nonsense. The T-34 was first encountered on June 23, D+1. Here is a battle account of it:
Half a dozen anti-tank guns fire shells at him [a T-34], which sound like a drumroll. But he drives staunchly through our line like an impregnable prehistoric monster... It is remarkable that lieutenant Steup's tank made hits on a T-34, once at about 20 meters and four times at 50 meters, with Panzergranate 40 (caliber 5 cm), without any noticeable effect.
In another case, an entire squad of them were driven into a bog by their drivers and abandoned. Here are the Germans realizing that they dint know what was up.
SneekyNinja
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Read again, I didn't say they weren't around, I said there weren't around in sufficient quantities to stop the initial German advance into the "Motherland".Nonsense. The T-34 was first encountered on June 23, D+1. Here is a battle account of it:
Half a dozen anti-tank guns fire shells at him [a T-34], which sound like a drumroll. But he drives staunchly through our line like an impregnable prehistoric monster... It is remarkable that lieutenant Steup's tank made hits on a T-34, once at about 20 meters and four times at 50 meters, with Panzergranate 40 (caliber 5 cm), without any noticeable effect.In another case, an entire squad of them were driven into a bog by their drivers and abandoned. Here are the Germans realizing that they dint know what was up.