Greenhouse 100x30

Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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justjr27 said:
Hey guys I'm from Florida and have been doing my thing here for a few years and currently am setting up to move to Oregon/Josephine County. I just started talking to an investor that is considering financing the venture keeping my fingers crossed
So this is what I am planning:

60,000 Sq Ft EFU Property with 3 phase power and unlimited power

13 - 100x30 "Emerald Kingdom" Automated Light Dep System each with
- 32,000 Watt HID Lighting
- Two 36" Exhaust Vented exhaust fans on Temp Control
- Eight 12" Circulating Fans on Temp Control
- Six 14" Can Max Fans "Fresh Air Intakes" on Temp Control
- One 31,000 BTU Thermal Heater on Temp Control
- Two 210 Pint Dehum on Humi Control
- Nine 325 Gallon Tanks "Plumbed In Tantem" 2,925 Gallons
- One 1 Hp Water Pump for Drip

5 - 40x8 Shipping Containers "Drying Rooms" insulated and each with
- 9,000 BTU Mitsubishi Mini Spilt Cooling/Heating Units
- Two Pedestal Fans
- One 70 Pint Dehum on Humi Control
- Custom Screen Drying Trays


Growing Inside Each 12 0f 13 Greenhouses:
- Two Hundred Fifty 10 Gallon Smart Pots "Not Sure Of Strains"
- Vegging For 2 Months 24/0
- Feeding 4 Times Daliy Every 6 Hrs for 10 mins

Growing Inside 13 Greenhouse:
This is going to be my baby greenhouse for clones so I can have a harvest every 4 months

Going to Use House & Garden Full Line " I have used them for a while and love it but they are pricey especially for a grow this size"

I'm so stoked about this hoping that guy goes through with it Its going to take a pile of money for this venture but we are talking returns in the six figures and I get to do something I love and sleep at night lol.

Thanks for reading guys
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Phew. Were do I start.

1. Do you realie the size of a crew you will need to run that many greenhouses?
2. 32-1000 watts isn't close enough to cover that space efficiently. If buying new why would you even use 1000s in a greenhouse. 315's bruh.
3. Two 36 inch fans won't even come close to cooling that big of a greenhouse.
4. People don't really use inline fans as intakes. Very energy inefficient.
5. Heater isn't big enough. 3000sq ft won't work on less than 3 tons.
6. Go with 3 dehumidifiers. Fail safe if one fails you still have 2 running.
7. Research commercial agriculture. They are not linking IbC totes together. Get a storage tank and inline dosers.
8. Would go with much more than a 1hp pump for irration as you'll prob move things around in 1-2 inch pipe before dropping down for drip.
9. Mini split for drying container isn't large enough. Put a 9 on both the front and the back.
10. A little 70 pint ain't gonna do a damn thing for a 40 ft container full of drying bud.
11. 250 plants per greenhouse, 13 greenhouses. 3250 plants...
Oregon medical program only allows 96 plants per site, with special permits, unless grandfathered in, which you are not.
If recreational you better get way more money from an investor for your rec licensing.
12. House and Garden will cost you an arm and a leg to use. Learn about simple salts. Same shit. No water.
13. Do you realize the cost of vegging 24/0 in a commercial operation. Literally throwing away money.
 
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doublejj

doublejj

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Carolina Dream'n said:
Phew. Were do I start.

1. Do you realie the size of a crew you will need to run that many greenhouses?
2. 32-1000 watts isn't close enough to cover that space efficiently. If buying new why would you even use 1000s in a greenhouse. 315's bruh.
3. Two 36 inch fans won't even come close to cooling that big of a greenhouse.
4. People don't really use inline fans as intakes. Very energy inefficient.
5. Heater isn't big enough. 3000sq ft won't work on less than 3 tons.
6. Go with 3 dehumidifiers. Fail safe if one fails you still have 2 running.
7. Research commercial agriculture. They are not linking IbC totes together. Get a storage tank and inline dosers.
8. Would go with much more than a 1hp pump for irration as you'll prob move things around in 1-2 inch pipe before dropping down for drip.
9. Mini split for drying container isn't large enough. Put a 9 on both the front and the back.
10. A little 70 pint ain't gonna do a damn thing for a 40 ft container full of drying bud.
11. 250 plants per greenhouse, 13 greenhouses. 3250 plants...
Oregon medical program only allows 96 plants per site, with special permits, unless grandfathered in, which you are not.
If recreational you better get way more money from an investor for your rec licensing.
12. House and Garden will cost you an arm and a leg to use. Learn about simple salts. Same shit. No water.
13. Do you realize the cost of vegging 24/0 in a commercial operation. Literally throwing away money.
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I wasn't going to waste my time explaining this bro....thanks
 
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justjr27

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Carolina Dream'n said:
Phew. Were do I start.

1. Do you realie the size of a crew you will need to run that many greenhouses?
2. 32-1000 watts isn't close enough to cover that space efficiently. If buying new why would you even use 1000s in a greenhouse. 315's bruh.
3. Two 36 inch fans won't even come close to cooling that big of a greenhouse.
4. People don't really use inline fans as intakes. Very energy inefficient.
5. Heater isn't big enough. 3000sq ft won't work on less than 3 tons.
6. Go with 3 dehumidifiers. Fail safe if one fails you still have 2 running.
7. Research commercial agriculture. They are not linking IbC totes together. Get a storage tank and inline dosers.
8. Would go with much more than a 1hp pump for irration as you'll prob move things around in 1-2 inch pipe before dropping down for drip.
9. Mini split for drying container isn't large enough. Put a 9 on both the front and the back.
10. A little 70 pint ain't gonna do a damn thing for a 40 ft container full of drying bud.
11. 250 plants per greenhouse, 13 greenhouses. 3250 plants...
Oregon medical program only allows 96 plants per site, with special permits, unless grandfathered in, which you are not.
If recreational you better get way more money from an investor for your rec licensing.
12. House and Garden will cost you an arm and a leg to use. Learn about simple salts. Same shit. No water.
13. Do you realize the cost of vegging 24/0 in a commercial operation. Literally throwing away money.
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Carolina,

Thanks for the tips at least you arent being negative about it just showing were Im lacking I appreciate it dude.

#1. Yes I took into account the labor involved I calculated 6 guys plus myself
#2. Never thought about the 315's just was sticking to what I use now will def look into those
#3. I was told my the greenhouse seller that two 36" would be enough "how many would you suggest"
#4. I dont have much experience with greenhouse/outdoor growing so I was just trying to be on safe side and try to force as much fresh cooler air into space and use exhaust fans as extracting the hotter one. Iwasnt really worried about the consumption :-}
#5. I'm sorry noticed it was my mistake the heater is 310,000 Btu
#6. I thought about it
#7. Will look into that, I seen it done linking the totes, figured it was the easiest more economcial way
#8. Will look into that
#9. Will look into that
#10. Will go with a 200 pint. Didn't even think about all the wet plant matter in room thanks
#11. Looking at putting in any where from $750,000 - 1,500,000.00 would thinks thats plenty money?
#12. Yes tell me about it I just know that the line very well so wanted to go that route. Will look into salts thanks
#13 It is only 6 hrs of extra light every day the lack of veg time needed meaning more crops per year would probably out weigh the extra cost. That was my thinking any way. I know people who only give there plants 18/6 and my plants veg for 24hr are almost twice there size with the same amount of weeks

Let me thank you again for you two cents I appreciate it truly
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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justjr27 said:
Carolina,

Thanks for the tips at least you arent being negative about it just showing were Im lacking I appreciate it dude.

#1. Yes I took into account the labor involved I calculated 6 guys plus myself
#2. Never thought about the 315's just was sticking to what I use now will def look into those
#3. I was told my the greenhouse seller that two 36" would be enough "how many would you suggest"
#4. I dont have much experience with greenhouse/outdoor growing so I was just trying to be on safe side and try to force as much fresh cooler air into space and use exhaust fans as extracting the hotter one. Iwasnt really worried about the consumption :-}
#5. I'm sorry noticed it was my mistake the heater is 310,000 Btu
#6. I thought about it
#7. Will look into that, I seen it done linking the totes, figured it was the easiest more economcial way
#8. Will look into that
#9. Will look into that
#10. Will go with a 200 pint. Didn't even think about all the wet plant matter in room thanks
#11. Looking at putting in any where from $750,000 - 1,500,000.00 would thinks thats plenty money?
#12. Yes tell me about it I just know that the line very well so wanted to go that route. Will look into salts thanks
#13 It is only 6 hrs of extra light every day the lack of veg time needed meaning more crops per year would probably out weigh the extra cost. That was my thinking any way. I know people who only give there plants 18/6 and my plants veg for 24hr are almost twice there size with the same amount of weeks

Let me thank you again for you two cents I appreciate it truly
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1. You will never be able to run that place with 6 people. Have you ever had a multiple hundred pound harvest? The harvest and trim crew is gonna have to be huge if you want it done in a timely manner.
2. Not thinking about power consumption is a huge no no. Your investors will definitely want to know this information. The power consumption on 315s is roughly half of 1000s, saving you thousands monthly with an operation this big.
3. I have two 54"s and a 36" for a 30x120x14. The 36 inch is at the top. It also had ridge vents, roll up sides and shade cloth if needed.
4. Once again not thinking about monthly bills is not something a investor wants to hear. You need a layed out plan.
5. I doubt that. That heater is fucking huge for that size greenhouse.
10. Always go with multiples in a operation of this size. Need a failsafe. If one turns off the other will keep up until you notice.
11. No. Not if you want to buy the property. Good luck renting at this point. And that won't come even close to covering all the houses. You need to budget about 125-150k per house. Not to mention bills for atleast 3-4 months.
12. Your just gonna have to research that one. Not too hard if you can do some math.
13. Plants do not use light like that. They will "sleep" regardless of whether the lights are on or off so you're literally wasting money. Unless your friends are running identical environment and genetics your oberservation is invalid.
 
Greenthumbskunk

Greenthumbskunk

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justjr27 said:
Local Oregon bank but no more than 8K deposits lol
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Try 3000. I put in the bank. 4000 and the teller had to fill out paperwork on me. She said anything over 3k and they have to let the feds know if it is in cash. Ive had cashiers checks held for 2 weeks before they are cleared of over a certain amount.
It's getting increasingly difficult to do business in this country with the war on cash.
 
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