Which brands have a the best chemdawg-dog representations, or versions.

morgwar

morgwar

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As I understand it, there's not a lot of regulation or garuantee of what your getting seed wise.
All that we have to go on is reputation and word of mouth,
It so happens, this is THE best place to find what you need, to sort out the riff raff, and get a good strain that fits it's description.
I'm recently obsessed with the strain, chemdawg, or chemdog. I've never had it or grew it, but it sounds like my ideal girl.
I'm running chemdawg from HSO now hoping to get a male and female. Looking at em I'm thinking this is a sexy plant, lol.
So I want to make this my first breeding attempt and mix up all the reputable chem genetics in to one and then breed by selection till death do us part.
So my esteemed peers, could I get some suggestions of breeders and strains.
Oh and please no crosses or chem /××××.

yes I could look it up and yes I will, but the point of a forum is to interact and have cool conversations. Oh sorry for the long intro its the AK47 talking lol
 
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morgwar

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Having trouble loading green point but I'll check em out thanks.
I've heard of top dog I think. If its got chops it's on the list. I'm also looking for something that's got a cool or really rude smell.
Oh Here's them babies20170225_123753.jpg 20170225_123801.jpg
Sorry about the blurple we've since upgraded. The got a bit of transplant shock and about 4 days past needing bigger pots. They've perked up since.
 
morgwar

morgwar

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So I'm looking at VGS C4DD (Chem D x C4D) as a definate addition to cross to hso chem 4 I'll grow it out first I'm still looking at greenthumb to add as well.
What I'm going to do is mix em all up! Then generation after generation pick what I think is the best pheno's. I'll be maintaining the males but will self and backcross to keep the traits I want.
This strain will be for myself family and freinds.
So if I come up with a strain name, how can I lock it in as mine.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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morgwar said:
As I understand it, there's not a lot of regulation or garuantee of what your getting seed wise.
All that we have to go on is reputation and word of mouth,
It so happens, this is THE best place to find what you need, to sort out the riff raff, and get a good strain that fits it's description.
I'm recently obsessed with the strain, chemdawg, or chemdog. I've never had it or grew it, but it sounds like my ideal girl.
I'm running chemdawg from HSO now hoping to get a male and female. Looking at em I'm thinking this is a sexy plant, lol.
So I want to make this my first breeding attempt and mix up all the reputable chem genetics in to one and then breed by selection till death do us part.
So my esteemed peers, could I get some suggestions of breeders and strains.
Oh and please no crosses or chem /××××.

yes I could look it up and yes I will, but the point of a forum is to interact and have cool conversations. Oh sorry for the long intro its the AK47 talking lol
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Man, do you have any access to California clones? The chemdog that I got from Harborside back in 2009 was absolute fire and tasted like candy. Either way HSO will get you something descent but I'm afraid no where near the clone only. I grew HSO's blue dream but it is no where near the clone only cut but still grade A smoke.
 
Thefarmer12

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Bodhi has many nice crosses of all the different chems. Sunshine #4 I've been getting smells and tastes just like a pinesol esque chemical cleaner its a great representation of the Chem 4.

As mentioned Top Dawg seeds are the pioneers of the chem.. Many many chem crosses. A little more than others but you get what you pay for.

I wont go as far as to say HSO doesn't have legit cuts being used but I think you can do better with the aforementioned breeders. Bodhi is probably cheaper than HSO too..
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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morgwar said:
So I'm looking at VGS C4DD (Chem D x C4D) as a definate addition to cross to hso chem 4 I'll grow it out first I'm still looking at greenthumb to add as well.
What I'm going to do is mix em all up! Then generation after generation pick what I think is the best pheno's. I'll be maintaining the males but will self and backcross to keep the traits I want.
This strain will be for myself family and freinds.
So if I come up with a strain name, how can I lock it in as mine.
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Who is VGS? Is c4d chem d x (chem 4 x chem d)?
 
chemphlegm

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morgwar said:
As I understand it, there's not a lot of regulation or garuantee of what your getting seed wise.
All that we have to go on is reputation and word of mouth,
It so happens, this is THE best place to find what you need, to sort out the riff raff, and get a good strain that fits it's description.
I'm recently obsessed with the strain, chemdawg, or chemdog. I've never had it or grew it, but it sounds like my ideal girl.
I'm running chemdawg from HSO now hoping to get a male and female. Looking at em I'm thinking this is a sexy plant, lol.
So I want to make this my first breeding attempt and mix up all the reputable chem genetics in to one and then breed by selection till death do us part.
So my esteemed peers, could I get some suggestions of breeders and strains.
Oh and please no crosses or chem /××××.

yes I could look it up and yes I will, but the point of a forum is to interact and have cool conversations. Oh sorry for the long intro its the AK47 talking lol
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start your journey with TopDawg genetics. While waiting for those to be in stock......planting some HSO Chem is a swell idea..... and you'll never look back I promise.
then add some of tres chem with his haze and discover your youth once again. then try his inner eye, its a sexy spinner too.
 
morgwar

morgwar

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Hey those are some good suggestions.
VGS is verdant green seeds over on seedbay.
I'll look again but top dawg and bohdi just have crosses as far as I've seen .
Sorry man I love crosses but I need to find my girl through her own genetics.
It's like I'm looking for a German Shepherd, long hair, short hair, fawn, red or black, doesn't matter I'm happy as long as it's certified, papered akc German shepherd.
Now cannabis doesn't have an akc or any real breeding standard, four different people will give you four different descriptions of a common strain they smoke.
My first NYCD smoked and tasted nothing like Soma's, so I was disapointed with those seeds, even though it was great smoke. The stuff I got from a bud in Minneapolis was closer to how sour d and chem 4 is described.
So chem X whatever is just that.
Give me a reasonably reliable breeder that has given effort to preserving a strain because that is my goal too.
Verdant green seeds sounds like he was trying that.
 
morgwar

morgwar

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Topdawg got me covered on the 91 cut,

Chem 91 IX = Chem 91 bx (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
The chem d looks okay but I'm not convinced on tres dawg, purely my ignorance but need to research.

Chem 91 is gonna shake things up if I can get ahold of it.

So here's the description off SeedB of verdant greens experiment.

"The classic elite clone Chem D crossed with a selected male from rez's C4D that smelt strongly of Chem D. C4D was the Chem 4 cut crossed with rez's Chem D ibl male - so this should come out like a Chem D back-cross with Chem 4 as the outcross! The test grows are showing healthy, very high yielding plants that reek of Chem and diesel and which look to go around 10-11 weeks. None of the Chem D clone's leaf streak trait has appeared in the 3 Females from the test grow."


So from what I'm reading this guy is working with resevoir seeds "ibl" chemdawg d. Now we all know an ibl is farfetched but it sounds like the guy was at least trying for a pure chemdawg of some sort.
Can't really bash on HSO they're only brokered through Europe and the humboldt genetics are pretty clean.
I've heard they're chem 4 is legit
Thanks on topdawg now it's time to raise funds and shop.

I need verdant greens mutant,
I need topdawg chem 91
Ive got hso (and from the stink of these veggers it looks pretty much like every chem 4 I've seen on here)

Does Anybody Know THE Deal WITH THE Kush? Was it one of the original chem phenos?

To be honest I've never tried kush, lol
 
morgwar

morgwar

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Man, do you have any access to California clones? The chemdog that I got from Harborside back in 2009 was absolute fire and tasted like candy. Either way HSO will get you something descent but I'm afraid no where near the clone only. I grew HSO's blue dream but it is no where near the clone only cut but still grade A smoke.
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Hey man that would be one to add if I could but Nevada is still on the start up and I don't trust the local stuff yet, lol lots of California bud god wannabes come over here while you keep all the good cali breeders lol.
Ive decided that I don't like the clone idea from a spiritual point of view. Cutting a soul into thousands of pieces is pretty dark, let alone never letting it rest or die.
Now if it was Hitler that would be apropriate. Even from a scientific point of view it's the same plant in forever limbo.
Bad juju my friend.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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morgwar said:
Hey man that would be one to add if I could but Nevada is still on the start up and I don't trust the local stuff yet, lol lots of California bud god wannabes come over here while you keep all the good cali breeders lol.
Ive decided that I don't like the clone idea from a spiritual point of view. Cutting a soul into thousands of pieces is pretty dark, let alone never letting it rest or die.
Now if it was Hitler that would be apropriate. Even from a scientific point of view it's the same plant in forever limbo.
Bad juju my friend.
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I have to disagree with your juju logic. How does the plant not rest? And if life can be extended then how is that bad? The plant's main goal in life is to produce as many offspring as possible and most perennial plant reproduce through propagation other than seed production, i.e. cloning. That action happens in nature all the time with perennials. If it wasn't natural then the plant cutting wouldn't produce roots, it would just die.

If you clone a female and produce seed with it once or many times then it is a positive for that plant, now instead of only producing one batch of seed, it has the ability to make much more, which in the end is exactly what the plant is trying to do.

So by cloning a female you are not "torturing" or forcing it to do you bidding. A basic course in plant biology would explain that concept for you, lol.
 
morgwar

morgwar

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All respect, it's a difference of opinion and I'll not condemn anyone for following that logic, as mine has no more merit.
My belief is based on my upbringing.
I can't help fearing some part of the original is still alive.
The genes don't change. It's the same plant, and maybe it's ok with it, But I don't know. Or I could just be watching too much Dr Who.
I took bio, bio 2, biochem, anatomy, human anatomy, lol etc etc but that was decades ago. What I do know is that intelligence is undefined, and on a larger scale my life is no more valuable than that of a blade of grass.
Buuuttt! That grass was just as ruthless about crowding out others to meet its needs and if cloning satisfies your needs then it's just how it is.
My hypothesis makes me guilty where others are guiltless doing the same.

Time for some Rick and Morty reruns lol
 
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chemphlegm

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morgwar said:
Topdawg got me covered on the 91 cut,

Chem 91 IX = Chem 91 bx (F) x Chem 91 bx (M)
The chem d looks okay but I'm not convinced on tres dawg, purely my ignorance but need to research.

Chem 91 is gonna shake things up if I can get ahold of it.

So here's the description off SeedB of verdant greens experiment.

"The classic elite clone Chem D crossed with a selected male from rez's C4D that smelt strongly of Chem D. C4D was the Chem 4 cut crossed with rez's Chem D ibl male - so this should come out like a Chem D back-cross with Chem 4 as the outcross! The test grows are showing healthy, very high yielding plants that reek of Chem and diesel and which look to go around 10-11 weeks. None of the Chem D clone's leaf streak trait has appeared in the 3 Females from the test grow."


So from what I'm reading this guy is working with resevoir seeds "ibl" chemdawg d. Now we all know an ibl is farfetched but it sounds like the guy was at least trying for a pure chemdawg of some sort.
Can't really bash on HSO they're only brokered through Europe and the humboldt genetics are pretty clean.
I've heard they're chem 4 is legit
Thanks on topdawg now it's time to raise funds and shop.

I need verdant greens mutant,
I need topdawg chem 91
Ive got hso (and from the stink of these veggers it looks pretty much like every chem 4 I've seen on here)

Does Anybody Know THE Deal WITH THE Kush? Was it one of the original chem phenos?

To be honest I've never tried kush, lol
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topdawg tres= chemdawg
og kush comes from the Kush mountains region, just an afghan kush, nothing more.
check lineages here http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Under_Dawg/Top_Dawg_Seeds
plant a thousand afghan kush and likely will see all kinds of favs, like cherry, orange, sour, lemon


HSO Chemdog is Chem "91, not Chem4, I think.
 
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