Deficiency help

[papa canna]

I transplanted these 12 days ago into roots organics, and have been showing these signs on the fan leaves. I have tossed my last 2 grows and they started out just like this. I thought I was nuking them with too much nutrients on the other grows, but now I don't know. The only issue I found was a bit of slime in my water res.

Can my water be doing damage like this? In feeding them nothing but ph'd tap water

 

[Dr. Who]

What soil/media?
What pH is the water?
They are very hungry - FEED!
What are you going to feed?

 

[papa canna]

What soil/media?
What pH is the water?
They are very hungry - FEED!
What are you going to feed?

I'm going to be transplanting again this weekend. But I dont see how they could be hungry. They were transplanted into 1 gallon of charged soil 13 days ago.
Doesn't that sound a bit unusual? i thought they were just getting a tad of burn.

edit: 6.5 water ph. media is roots organics original soil

 

[zeddd]

Lol the leaves don't lie chuck em and start again feed them well this time

 

[Budley Doright]

Could it be the roots are in very poor shape, like rotten? Maybe from overwatering? They look like my hydro plants that have succumbed to rot.

 

[papa canna]

Could it be the roots are in very poor shape, like rotten? Maybe from overwatering? They look like my hydro plants that have succumbed to rot.

There was a bit of "slime" in my water res i noticed a few days ago. cleaned the shit out of it. Could that be my cause? It wasn't algae but it was slimey.

 

[Dr. Who]

Hmm, should be taking off but, they look low N.

For new Roots soil. Something is way off..... Feed them and see what happens

 

[hillbill]

Plenty of nutes in Roots soil unless locked out by a whole lot of water or not enough drainage, other side of same coin. Could it be initial burn followed by lockout? Plants at that stage don't need big amounts of nutes to look healthy.

 

[Budley Doright]

There was a bit of "slime" in my water res i noticed a few days ago. cleaned the shit out of it. Could that be my cause? It wasn't algae but it was slimey.

Ya I'm not sure but your plants look like mine did. I'm straight up hydro so a bit different ...... easy for me to check roots. This is what my plants looked like before I saved them with hydroguard and chilled water.

 

[Bob Zmuda]

Lol the leaves don't lie chuck em and start again feed them well this time

Lol. Don't listen to this guy. He's a child molester.

 

[Kingrow1]

Your leaves look thin, droppy and burnt on the edges. You sure your not making too dry, hot or windy conditions because looks more like its loosing more water than it can resupply hence the droopy thin dry edged leaves?

Thats more what i ser than any deficiency which in a fresh organic soil should be hard to come acrosd

 

[papa canna]

Your leaves look thin, droppy and burnt on the edges. You sure your not making too dry, hot or windy conditions because looks more like its loosing more water than it can resupply hence the droopy thin dry edged leaves?

Thats more what i ser than any deficiency which in a fresh organic soil should be hard to come acrosd

My high temps are around 80-81. Shouldnt be enough for these symptoms. I water every 2-3. I water medium thoroughly but I try to avoid run off.

 

[Kingrow1]

My high temps are around 80-81. Shouldnt be enough for these symptoms. I water every 2-3. I water medium thoroughly but I try to avoid run off.

It really looks like it to me but its another option to work at. If you take it out the tent and the leaves stop drooping then thats half your problem at least

 

[Lucky Luke]

Over watered i recon. I bet you water and any excess sits in the tray. This causes the already wet/damp soil to stay damp because as it dries a little it soaks up the water in the tray. You then come in and water again.

When u think it needs water..wait a day or even two,

 

[papa canna]

Over watered i recon. I bet you water and any excess sits in the tray. This causes the already wet/damp soil to stay damp because as it dries a little it soaks up the water in the tray. You then come in and water again.

When u think it needs water..wait a day or even two,

I've never seen over watering cause fan leaves to start turning rust colored and die off. I am a novice, but even if that were possible I wouldnt be overwatering them that bad. I wait about 3 days to water.

 

[Budley Doright]

I still vote root issues. I really suck at plant issue identification but I've seen my leaves do exactly what yours are doing and it was the roots. Wondering if you can check them some way just for snickers. Please let me know if you find the cause.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I've never seen over watering cause fan leaves to start turning rust colored and die off. I am a novice, but even if that were possible I wouldnt be overwatering them that bad. I wait about 3 days to water.

Every 2 to 3 days is watering fairly often for such small plants. I have some plants about 3 to 4 times ur size (albeit in larger pots) and water every 3 to 5 days. I realize all pots mediums and plants are different. But you dont get slime without an abundance of moisture... You dont get root rot without an abundance of moisture...

Cannabis can take very dry conditions, no problems at all but it hates damp conditions. Over watering is the number one problem in growing for new growers. I belive it can cause lockouts. Even allot of us "seasoned" growers use a moisture probe from time to time. If you dont have one i do recommend them. If i think my plants may need a water i wait another day.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[hillbill]

I know how much my containers weigh when they need water. I weigh before I water. If too much water is given early, the roots won't develop. Every time my plants looked like that they were overwatered. Don't even look at them for a couple days and when transplanting those, just water around the perimeter.

 

[Kingrow1]

In coming back to the problem how is the plant after transplanting? Any reaction from the soil? Have you started up on a fert schedule yet?

I generally find overwatering soil quite hard unless you water wet soil. With a little perlite i have less worries and most brown roots are generally in zones where the soil fully dries.

 

[papa canna]

In coming back to the problem how is the plant after transplanting? Any reaction from the soil? Have you started up on a fert schedule yet?

I generally find overwatering soil quite hard unless you water wet soil. With a little perlite i have less worries and most brown roots are generally in zones where the soil fully dries.

Plant started showing the signs of rusting you see above a couple of weeks after their first transplant. But I do not think it was caused by the soil itself. I've tossed 2 of my last batches with this exact issue. Im pretty convinced that it was the slime on my air stones / bucket to be honest with you. If memory serves correct (not too often, ha!) my plants started messing up around the time I bought airstones and started keeping water in my bucket round the clock. I also switched to Dynagro at the same time, and thought I was nuking my plants with it.

The plants have gotten a little worse since the posting of this thread. Most of my fan leaves that are left have that gross beige rust on them. And to top all of that off I just had a power outage for about 36 hours rendering my light unusable along with the furnace which let my room get to a chilly 59 Fahrenheit.