one light one plant one pound....

sunny747

sunny747

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Strocat said:
Friends.. my new friend grower is kind of clueless when it comes to yields. he is on his first grow and he just kept buying more lights/nutrients/starting more plants etc. he hasnt even finished 1 plant.. he is expecting insane yields.

I've been trying to be realisitic with him but he just gets pissed.



Tell me.


Could 2 mars 600 LED lights (278 actual watt per light) do a 1 pound 1 plant?

He doesn't seem to understand just how much u have to put into 1 single plant to get a pound dry.


so... what do ya'll think is the max yield one could get off a huge yielder like dr krippling incredible bulk under 2 mars 600's ???.


thanks.. I'm trying to help him but he isnt getting it. I told him.. start 1 plant under 1 mars 600 and get it to harvest then go from there but instead he has spent 1600$ on things he simply doesnt need,


I could use your alls help to help him out.


he saw me get 88 grams off 1 auto flower under a mars 300 so he thought he could just buy 2 mars 600's and get 20 oz dry off 4 plants. I told him.. dude its alot more complicated than that and strains vary and hell phenotypes of a strain can vary greatly.


thank you
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Sounds like he will have to learn the hard way..

Break it down like this... If he is half good and his beans are decent he will get .4-.5 grams per watt under the mars assuming he has adequate plant size and everything goes according to plan.. (This is info from Growmau5)

I have a freind that also has dellusions of grandeur and I say "Dude" you have 400 watts of HID.. You will ikely get 200-300 grams no matter what you do.. Yield comes down to par watts, environment, genetics and plant size.

He should stop wasting his money on Mars.. If they were still relevant there wouldn't be 100 articles on how to convert them to cob. They do make a great veg light though.. Real bushy plants.
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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sunny747 said:
Sounds like he will have to learn the hard way..

Break it down like this... If he is half good and his beans are decent he will get .4-.5 grams per watt under the mars assuming he has adequate plant size and everything goes according to plan.. (This is info from Growmau5)

I have a freind that also has dellusions of grandeur and I say "Dude" you have 400 watts of HID.. You will ikely get 200-300 grams no matter what you do.. Yield comes down to par watts, environment, genetics and plant size.

He should stop wasting his money on Mars.. If they were still relevant there wouldn't be 100 articles on how to convert them to cob. They do make a great veg light though.. Real bushy plants.
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I have a friend who did the same thing with viper spectras after seeing my cobs is now looking at timber framed cobs which is gonna be my choice when I fire up a second grow there is a lot of options with leds these days
 
sunny747

sunny747

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horribleherk said:
I have a friend who did the same thing with viper spectras after seeing my cobs is now looking at timber framed cobs which is gonna be my choice when I fire up a second grow there is a lot of options with leds these days
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I just bought 2 vero v7 run at 1400ma from Timber. Can't beat it. It's pulling 183 watts from the wall. I'm looking forward to a good run in my 2x2.. The only problem now is that I don't have any beans and it's become a pain to order :)... Looking for some clones locally.
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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sunny747 said:
I just bought 2 vero v7 run at 1400ma from Timber. Can't beat it. It's pulling 183 watts from the wall. I'm looking forward to a good run in my 2x2.. The only problem now is that I don't have any beans and it's become a pain to order :)... Looking for some clones locally.
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I'm in the cal. Gold country & have recently tapped into rcp in Sacramento for clones it has been working out good I cloned my doubledream & im a little rusty at it but I have survivors & over a month to straiten them out dark heart, midnight farms & purple city genetics make the clone scene interesting as I'm only doing 2 plants at a time
 
sunny747

sunny747

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horribleherk said:
I'm in the cal. Gold country & have recently tapped into rcp in Sacramento for clones it has been working out good I cloned my doubledream & im a little rusty at it but I have survivors & over a month to straiten them out dark heart, midnight farms & purple city genetics make the clone scene interesting as I'm only doing 2 plants at a time
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Ahh... that's a beautiful area..
We took a trailer up to the stanislaus for a few weeks and prospected.. Not a lot of gold, but the fishing was good. :)
 
714steadyeddie

714steadyeddie

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sunny747 said:
I just bought 2 vero v7 run at 1400ma from Timber. Can't beat it. It's pulling 183 watts from the wall. I'm looking forward to a good run in my 2x2.. The only problem now is that I don't have any beans and it's become a pain to order :)... Looking for some clones locally.
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All star clones in la off the 5fwy has legit clones. If you go let me ride with you lol
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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sunny747 said:
I just bought 2 vero v7 run at 1400ma from Timber. Can't beat it. It's pulling 183 watts from the wall. I'm looking forward to a good run in my 2x2.. The only problem now is that I don't have any beans and it's become a pain to order :)... Looking for some clones locally.
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Yeah I remember you were trying to get a 2-cob setup from them I haven't been making my rounds I'll have to see how your thread is doing
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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sunny747 said:
Ahh... that's a beautiful area..
We took a trailer up to the stanislaus for a few weeks and prospected.. Not a lot of gold, but the fishing was good. :)
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the Stanislaus is named after the son of a local Indian chief it joins the San Joaquin in the valley & is a thing of beauty there as well I haven't gold panned yet but I've fished the lower stanislaus but only some of the lakes mainly alpine & spicer that have beautiful trout we recently bought a pop- up trailer but before that had another trailer as well as a motor home love to camp
 
horribleherk

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714steadyeddie said:
Your scrog looks great man
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hey Eddie how's your weekend going? good news I got roots in both clones so going into my next grow I'll be armed with the knowledge of a prior grow of this the quality of the purple city genetics doubledream is pretty good I really dig your new light & hope to have one in a few months my Johnson is working really well but think putting the timber in a 4x4 tent would give me a harvest every 45+- days & I could use my current t-5 to veg. I'm taking advantage of 70 degrees outside to give my babies some real sunlight those coffee containers are soon to become converted to mini dwc to veg in IMG_0903.JPGIMG_0905.JPG
 
Strocat

Strocat

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sunny747 said:
Sounds like he will have to learn the hard way..

Break it down like this... If he is half good and his beans are decent he will get .4-.5 grams per watt under the mars assuming he has adequate plant size and everything goes according to plan.. (This is info from Growmau5)

I have a freind that also has dellusions of grandeur and I say "Dude" you have 400 watts of HID.. You will ikely get 200-300 grams no matter what you do.. Yield comes down to par watts, environment, genetics and plant size.

He should stop wasting his money on Mars.. If they were still relevant there wouldn't be 100 articles on how to convert them to cob. They do make a great veg light though.. Real bushy plants.
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I myself grow with a single mars 300 on 1 plant and the only reason i can give them any praise is.. a 132 actual wattage light off an autoflower in 5 gallons of soil gave me 90 grams dry of really good smoke.


But .. yes.. my friend is the type of person that has spent 2,000$ on useless junk and not even come to harvest.

he vegged a reserva privada og 18 till its huge like 70 days and is now flowering it under a scrog net under 2 mars 600's
sunny747 said:
Sounds like he will have to learn the hard way..

Break it down like this... If he is half good and his beans are decent he will get .4-.5 grams per watt under the mars assuming he has adequate plant size and everything goes according to plan.. (This is info from Growmau5)

I have a freind that also has dellusions of grandeur and I say "Dude" you have 400 watts of HID.. You will ikely get 200-300 grams no matter what you do.. Yield comes down to par watts, environment, genetics and plant size.

He should stop wasting his money on Mars.. If they were still relevant there wouldn't be 100 articles on how to convert them to cob. They do make a great veg light though.. Real bushy plants.
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I agree dont get me wrong. I use a mars 300 on 1 plant at a time... how is it though that i got 90 grams off a mars 300 (132 acutal watt) ??? That would come out to 66 at .5 grams per watt. some it seems like I bumped my mars 300 up to like .75 grams per watt??? and that was with an autoflower in 5 gallons of soil
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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Strocat said:
I myself grow with a single mars 300 on 1 plant and the only reason i can give them any praise is.. a 132 actual wattage light off an autoflower in 5 gallons of soil gave me 90 grams dry of really good smoke.


But .. yes.. my friend is the type of person that has spent 2,000$ on useless junk and not even come to harvest.

he vegged a reserva privada og 18 till its huge like 70 days and is now flowering it under a scrog net under 2 mars 600's


I agree dont get me wrong. I use a mars 300 on 1 plant at a time... how is it though that i got 90 grams off a mars 300 (132 acutal watt) ??? That would come out to 66 at .5 grams per watt. some it seems like I bumped my mars 300 up to like .75 grams per watt??? and that was with an autoflower in 5 gallons of soil
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if he vegged that strain that long & developed the canopy he is gonna get something I can't predict his exact outcome I think the important thing here is the fact he is getting hands- on experience & just like the rest of us he can sit back , look at his short comings ,make some changes & hit it again you've got to like doing this as it's time consuming if you're just expecting a pay-out you'll come up short that being said I've never lost money on anything that has made it to harvest some have done better than others but for the most part they've all done good
 
radrolley

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horribleherk said:
hey Eddie how's your weekend going? good news I got roots in both clones so going into my next grow I'll be armed with the knowledge of a prior grow of this the quality of the purple city genetics doubledream is pretty good I really dig your new light & hope to have one in a few months my Johnson is working really well but think putting the timber in a 4x4 tent would give me a harvest every 45+- days & I could use my current t-5 to veg. I'm taking advantage of 70 degrees outside to give my babies some real sunlight those coffee containers are soon to become converted to mini dwc to veg in View attachment 3904730View attachment 3904733
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looks like you might have algae growth on top of those cube on the bottom pic. might want to cover it with some kind of medium like clay pellets.
 
714steadyeddie

714steadyeddie

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horribleherk said:
hey Eddie how's your weekend going? good news I got roots in both clones so going into my next grow I'll be armed with the knowledge of a prior grow of this the quality of the purple city genetics doubledream is pretty good I really dig your new light & hope to have one in a few months my Johnson is working really well but think putting the timber in a 4x4 tent would give me a harvest every 45+- days & I could use my current t-5 to veg. I'm taking advantage of 70 degrees outside to give my babies some real sunlight those coffee containers are soon to become converted to mini dwc to veg in View attachment 3904730View attachment 3904733
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Looks good. Good job on the clones. Rocking a T5 for veg would be a good idea.
 
horribleherk

horribleherk

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714steadyeddie said:
Looks good. Good job on the clones. Rocking a T5 for veg would be a good idea.
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I have the same setup for 4x4 blocks these will be transfered into hydroton in the waterfarms when the current grow is done my main goal is to suspend the roots in nutrients allowing growth under the t-5 while my main room finishes off & in this case things have slowed up a bit because these clones aren't the healthiest but those roots should advance & growth should start taking off
 
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