Hermies, most have no idea!!!

Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Most recent hermie threads i recommend to carry on growing rather than the redundant 'burn the fucker with fire' response. I can say that all grows have turned out quite alright and that some of you need to re-adjust you knowledge on this subject.

Seems that actual experience is quite different to what most seem to regurgitate. I wouldn't care but its something you can expand on rather than just recommending people kill plants. Again i seem to differ from most on the subject but i simply put it down to having some good experience and skill with growng....!
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Kingrow1 said:
Most recent hermie threads i recommend to carry on growing rather than the redundant 'burn the fucker with fire' response. I can say that all grows have turned out quite alright and that some of you need to re-adjust you knowledge on this subject.

Seems that actual experience is quite different to what most seem to regurgitate. I wouldn't care but its something you can expand on rather than just recommending people kill plants. Again i seem to differ from most on the subject but i simply put it down to having some good experience and skill with growng....!
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I agree kingrow but it will be a never ending mis conception on forums like this. Right along with mis information on leaching (flushing) and other popular topics.

As for stamen. I see one or two once in a while on my sativa heavy hybrids. But I pick them off and never see more than a few seeds if any. And patients report very few as well. Usually none. And only the early ones are problematic at all anyway. Late stamen tend to be weak or their pollen is not viable anymore and there is not enough time to develop seeds at week 8 or 9 regardless. Maybe immature little white ones.

And the good self seeds are welcomed as they are free already feminized seeds from great plants.

And when there is no stress there are no seeds. On the s-1 seed plants either.

I hope that echos your thoughts and helps clear up some myth.
 
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sparkygeek

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I agree... I really don't have a problem with free seeds either... Since I usually take my plants to their juicy end I usually get a good self seed... I consider it a bonus!

I tend to stick to mostly the same strains so if I acquire genetics with a propensity to hermie without stress... I don't grow it again...
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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the issue is smoking pollen from these plants, that pollen changes things, some notice, some dont.
I dont give chits about a few seeds or a finger but if I see balls I cull.

On side note, I find doing this in front of the rest of the unknown sex varieties in veg teaches them.
Now I'm guaranteed 100% females when I plant regular seeds, every time, the frikken learnt it I tell ya:hump:
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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chemphlegm said:
a flowering girl that shows male sex parts, when you peek, is commonly referred to as a hermaphrodite, or endeared as a hermie.
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Id have to check but technically i dont think you can call somthing a hermie if it is predisposed to hermie in its genetics....

Either that or any plant with male and female flowers is a hermie which is not how biology terms them. Tomato plants are hermies by this standard....
 
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KryptoBud

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chemphlegm said:
a flowering girl that shows male sex parts, when you peek, is commonly referred to as a hermaphrodite, or endeared as a hermie.
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That's what I thought. If a plant has both male and female reproduction organs it's a hermaphrodite.

It's not based on opinion or acceptable quantity of stamen per pistil production. It doesn't need to have XX amount of seeds produced to be considered a hermie. If someone doesn't mind 10 seeds in their bud that's their opinion on what is or isn't acceptable. I personally don't mind if I find a couple seeds here and there, but people grow for different reasons and will have differing opinions on what quality is. OP you can sit up on your high horse and tell people to re adjust their growing knowledge or learn how to grow all he wants.The reality is the plants in question were clearly a hermies. There were more visible stamen than pistils. This wasn't a plant in the last weeks of life, it was a plant that was just starting to bud. The plant wasn't female like you said multiple times it was in fact a heshe. Look at the pics again because maybe it's you who has no idea about hermies.

Sequential hermaphroditism (called dichogamy in botany) is a type of hermaphroditism that occurs in many fish, gastropoda and plants. Sequential hermaphroditism occurs when the individual changes sex at some point in its life. They can change from a male to female (protandry), or from female to male (protogyny)[1] or from female to hermaphrodite (protogynous hermaphroditism), or from male to hermaphrodite (protandrous hermaphroditism). Those that change gonadal sex can have both female and male germ cells in the gonads or can change from one complete gonadal type to the other during their last life stage.[2] Individual flowers are also called sequentially hermaphrodite, although the plant as a whole may have functionally male and functionally female flowers open at the same time.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Im on no high horse and am not refering to any thread in particular. Weed occupies an as yet unknown sexual genetic status and has been studied, frustratingly, by many science institutions. Hemp again is a slightly different genetic beast by all rights too.

The word hermie scares most when its not really the case, merely suggesting some more realistic advice might lessen such a 'Help is this a hermie' situation and maybe grow a few more plants than what the average weed site burns in fear of a few seeds.

It is a plant after all.....



KryptoBud said:
That's what I thought. If a plant has both male and female reproduction organs it's a hermaphrodite.

It's not based on opinion or acceptable quantity of stamen per pistil production. It doesn't need to have XX amount of seeds produced to be considered a hermie. If someone doesn't mind 10 seeds in their bud that's their opinion on what is or isn't acceptable. I personally don't mind if I find a couple seeds here and there, but people grow for different reasons and will have differing opinions on what quality is. OP you can sit up on your high horse and tell people to re adjust their growing knowledge or learn how to grow all he wants.The reality is the plants in question were clearly a hermies. There were more visible stamen than pistils. This wasn't a plant in the last weeks of life, it was a plant that was just starting to bud. The plant wasn't female like you said multiple times it was in fact a heshe. Look at the pics again because maybe it's you who has no idea about hermies.

Sequential hermaphroditism (called dichogamy in botany) is a type of hermaphroditism that occurs in many fish, gastropoda and plants. Sequential hermaphroditism occurs when the individual changes sex at some point in its life. They can change from a male to female (protandry), or from female to male (protogyny)[1] or from female to hermaphrodite (protogynous hermaphroditism), or from male to hermaphrodite (protandrous hermaphroditism). Those that change gonadal sex can have both female and male germ cells in the gonads or can change from one complete gonadal type to the other during their last life stage.[2] Individual flowers are also called sequentially hermaphrodite, although the plant as a whole may have functionally male and functionally female flowers open at the same time.
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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True herms are not that common. Just because a female plant expresses male flowers doesn't make it a true herm.

I'm not against growing them. I have a couple landrace sativas that throw nanners. I grow them every once in a while.

It all depends on what I am doing. This run I am doing some breeding. Reg and fem seeds. I removed a plant and asked a friend if they wanted it. Cant have odd pollen floating around when making seeds, wont have any idea what the seeds will be.

@Dr. Who I think posted the thing about true herms.
 
Wilderb

Wilderb

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I'm smoking one right now. Okay maybe not a true hermie but this ladies got some seeds, lol.
Adds kind of a nutty flavor, lol.
I did chop her a little early and almost thought about tossing her when I first saw the seeds.

Glad I didn't. I seem to be gaining more "family" that needs meds, lol.
TBH, I almost always end up with a seed or two.
But this lady was loaded.
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orangeade5

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If a hermie is all you've got in your garden and you're a beginner just looking for some buds OR if it's 100% personal and patients won't be getting any I'd do the same. Once you've got good stable mothers and the ability to have a few extra clones in case a new seed turns out hermie I chop em and never look back. It's all about what you've got to work with but clean that room well once the hermie is out of the flowering room!
 
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