Garrett Richardson
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trying to take some clones off my mama before flower, easiest/successful way to do so?
Cloning
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chemphlegm
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cut close to the main on the plant, cut again at an angle to expose that cambium layer(like stem cells in there)
close to a new chute,, use a scalpel for best results, dip in clonex, poke into a moist rapid rooter, mist and cover with
with clear dome/cup. mist if you see them droop. when you see roots transplant.
close to a new chute,, use a scalpel for best results, dip in clonex, poke into a moist rapid rooter, mist and cover with
with clear dome/cup. mist if you see them droop. when you see roots transplant.
Garrett Richardson
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Would a rock wool cube work?
Richard Drysift
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These work great; easiest way to clone:
http://www.clonebucket.com/hydro-west-clonebucket-2-0-8-site/
http://www.clonebucket.com/hydro-west-clonebucket-2-0-8-site/
chemphlegm
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yep, I've even done it in a sponge, a cup of dirt too.
Garrett Richardson
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I tried a 4" pot with soil but it's looked like an upside down J after an hour
chemphlegm
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thats ok maybe, depending on what type of soil, mist it with just water and clear dome it till it picks back up
Easiest way is to take your cuttings put them in a glass of water and that's it. You need to change the water everyday though.
GreenLogician
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I put them in soil under an individual dome (2L bottle) for 4 days, i.e. 4 x 24 hour periods. An extra day to 5 under the dome is better than a day less to 3, but 4 is the magic number.
No rooting hormones.
I replace the dome if they start to wilt, misting the dome but never the leaves directly. Take the dome off again when it's unwilted, replace if and when it wilts again.
However I only get a wilting clone after that first dome removal about 1 in 20 clones. I have brilliant success.
p.s. Expect more wilting than me if your background humidity goes under 70.
No rooting hormones.
I replace the dome if they start to wilt, misting the dome but never the leaves directly. Take the dome off again when it's unwilted, replace if and when it wilts again.
However I only get a wilting clone after that first dome removal about 1 in 20 clones. I have brilliant success.
p.s. Expect more wilting than me if your background humidity goes under 70.
Garrett Richardson
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Mother is going on 3 mo!! Been juicing her up to shoot during flower!
Garrett Richardson
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Ended up tossing it in a rock wool cube with some clonex
GANJA MONSTA
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How successful is this method? And should I dip the cuttings in some hormex?
GANJA MONSTA
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Let me make sure I understand this right cause I'm going to be trying this method. You don't use any rooting solution? You just plant the cuttings straight into soil (is the soil wet?) mist the inside of some 2L bottles and place them over each individual plant. Leave them there for about 4days? When they start to wilt you take the bottles off mist the insides of them then place back on top each of the plants. Then when they are looking healthy you take the bottles off, during this time do you mist the leaves or the soil? Then if they start to wilt again you mist the inside of the bottles and place them back over the plants?
GreenLogician
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"You don't use any rooting solution?"
--- Correct.
"You just plant the cuttings straight into soil (is the soil wet?)"
--- Yes, I put them into dry soil, fresh from the bag, and then water until water comes out the bottom.
"mist the inside of some 2L bottles and place them over each individual plant."
--- I don't mist actively, it's only for emergencies - if they wilt. The dome goes over dry, no misting.
(Although I often rinse the dome out just before using it, for hygiene - no noticeable difference to success rate.)
Leave the dome on for 4 days yep.
"When they start to wilt you take the bottles off mist the insides of them then place back on top each of the plants."
--- They don't wilt with the bottles on them, that happens after taking the bottles off.
After taking the bottle off, if you see it wilt, mist the bottle and put it back on until it's recovered (usually 8-24 hrs). Then remove the bottle.
"Then when they are looking healthy you take the bottles off, during this time do you mist the leaves or the soil?"
--- Water the soil if it is drying out, keep it damp. My soil doesn't dry out for like 4 weeks unless there's a good root system drinking from it - Canna Terra Professional. No such top ups are needed in my experience, just 4 days after taking the cutting and watering the soil.
I never mist the leaves, only domes, because I see myself as trying to train them to drink up their stem instead of through their leaves.
I believe that when fresh cuttings have to drink through their leaves, doing it through high humidity beats letting actual water drops touch your leaves.
Thus, aim to have cuttings that don't (or barely) touch the walls of your dome - trim leaves appropriately. (More important with a misted dome)
"Then if they start to wilt again you mist the inside of the bottles and place them back over the plants?"
--- Yep
--- Correct.
"You just plant the cuttings straight into soil (is the soil wet?)"
--- Yes, I put them into dry soil, fresh from the bag, and then water until water comes out the bottom.
"mist the inside of some 2L bottles and place them over each individual plant."
--- I don't mist actively, it's only for emergencies - if they wilt. The dome goes over dry, no misting.
(Although I often rinse the dome out just before using it, for hygiene - no noticeable difference to success rate.)
Leave the dome on for 4 days yep.
"When they start to wilt you take the bottles off mist the insides of them then place back on top each of the plants."
--- They don't wilt with the bottles on them, that happens after taking the bottles off.
After taking the bottle off, if you see it wilt, mist the bottle and put it back on until it's recovered (usually 8-24 hrs). Then remove the bottle.
"Then when they are looking healthy you take the bottles off, during this time do you mist the leaves or the soil?"
--- Water the soil if it is drying out, keep it damp. My soil doesn't dry out for like 4 weeks unless there's a good root system drinking from it - Canna Terra Professional. No such top ups are needed in my experience, just 4 days after taking the cutting and watering the soil.
I never mist the leaves, only domes, because I see myself as trying to train them to drink up their stem instead of through their leaves.
I believe that when fresh cuttings have to drink through their leaves, doing it through high humidity beats letting actual water drops touch your leaves.
Thus, aim to have cuttings that don't (or barely) touch the walls of your dome - trim leaves appropriately. (More important with a misted dome)
"Then if they start to wilt again you mist the inside of the bottles and place them back over the plants?"
--- Yep
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GreenLogician
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I said 4 days under the dome was my secret to success, but maybe 'avoid and minimize water touching the leaves' is a winner too.
GANJA MONSTA
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Ok I believe I fully understand. I will certainly be trying this method. When the time comes for me to cut some clones.
Thank you GreenLogician.
GANJA MONSTA
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Hey KryptoBud, any advice / tips when using just water? I have had no luck getting a cut to root - unfortunately..
GreenLogician
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Use no circulation fans in your clone tent/room right after dedoming, too