Club 315w lec

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Regardless of Grow style or plants per light the standard measurement everyone is saying is 3x3.

I think that footprint would work with a sog or trained for only tops and lolipopped but with even mid size 4-5 oz dry bushes I can not get the lamp to grow more than two to their potential and I can still get twice that under a 600 hps.

But I prefer them together so far.
 
genuity

genuity

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Regardless of Grow style or plants per light the standard measurement everyone is saying is 3x3.

I think that footprint would work with a sog or trained for only tops and lolipopped but with even mid size 4-5 oz dry bushes I can not get the lamp to grow more than two to their potential and I can still get twice that under a 600 hps.

But I prefer them together so far.
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I veg 4 big plants with the 315,but I will only flower one under the lights...
My best runs was smaller plants,just more of them.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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genuity said:
It's all about the way you grow...imo

This was a 2x2 tray,with a 3x3 canopy..9 1gal pots,screen....rich soil base.feed was tea/Neptune's harvest..9 weeks flower.
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This is when I first got the 315..when they first hit my shop...they was so new.
The first couple weeks of 12/12 the light was only running at 250 watts...the ballast was not all the way up..had to take it in,to let the turn it up ton the full power.

That's what's not talked about a lot...you can turn these lights power down,I do not know the difference on the bulb it will have,but I was getting just fine growth.
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Thanks for your input. I am going to see what happens after the current run. I'd like to try one of the 630 CMH lights, but also waiting to see if Horti finally drops the 600W Ceramic HPS............that looks interesting........

Of the 630's which setup do you recommend? The growers choice is the only true DE 630 CMH right? The rest of the lights is just (2) 315 bulbs correct?

Also what's your take on this light and how much height from canopy would be required?
http://growershouse.com/gavita-pro-600-750e-flex-de-120-240v-fixture
 
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Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Under the SS remote reflector I can only flower 2 plants in 3 gallon pots. I will say it is almost as powerful as 600 hps at 2.5' x 2.5'. After that stretching plants lean in for more light. And it's weird the Hortilux ballast is problematic. They have a video showing an old galaxy failing with way more bulbs.

My galaxy runs the 400 and 600 blue fine. And it's run the Super hps for 3 years the whole time at 12/12 pretty much. No problem with that big bulbous 600 blue the first few months either.
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It's the second 600w Gold e-Ballast I have had fail on me within months of ownership. My 1K Platinum ballast run cooler and give me ZERO issues but too much light for a 3x3 heat is definitely an issue even with the exhaust fan @ 100% LOL. Speaking of which I need to reach out to them for a replacement again.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Evil-Mobo said:
Thanks for your input. I am going to see what happens after the current run. I'd like to try one of the 630 CMH lights, but also waiting to see if Horti finally drops the 600W Ceramic HPS............that looks interesting........

Of the 630's which setup do you recommend? The growers choice is the only true DE 630 CMH right? The rest of the lights is just (2) 315 bulbs correct?

Also what's your take on this light and how much height from canopy would be required?
http://growershouse.com/gavita-pro-600-750e-flex-de-120-240v-fixture
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I am going by memory but I saw an ad in a dispensary magazine for a de cmh from Max Par.

And I don't remember the answer for sure but the recommended height is in the FAQ on the gavita website. It was like three feet. I stopped investigating the light because of my height issue.
 
Evil-Mobo

Evil-Mobo

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I am going by memory but I saw an ad in a dispensary magazine for a de cmh from Max Par.

And I don't remember the answer for sure but the recommended height is in the FAQ on the gavita website. It was like three feet. I stopped investigating the light because of my height issue.
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Yeah the height is my concern as well plus I'm in a tent not even an open space. Was just curious because the local guy has a couple left and they're on sale..........

Oh well back to the 630 cmh vs ceramic hps :)

I want to keep running four plants per 3x3 if not I'd be all over a 315 again but as has been stated (and I agree based on prior use) for flower I think they're better one big plant per light.........
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Evil-Mobo said:
Yeah the height is my concern as well plus I'm in a tent not even an open space. Was just curious because the local guy has a couple left and they're on sale..........

Oh well back to the 630 cmh vs ceramic hps :)

I want to keep running four plants per 3x3 if not I'd be all over a 315 again but as has been stated (and I agree based on prior use) for flower I think they're better one big plant per light.........
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I am kind of considering going the other way. Get another 315 for veg and grow and train bigger plants transplanted up to maybe 7 or 10 gallon buckets (3 months?) and flower 1 plant per light.

Think I still get 16-20 oz per light? It would be 600w Hortilux blue. A 600w Super hps and an SS 315 LEC.

I have never vegged longer than 8 weeks under flourescents in my 3x3. So I have to open the room and have some space for training maybe 4 plants in different stages. But I can do that upgrade pretty easily.

I may have just lost my girlfriend and her plant count.

Here we go again......
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Evil-Mobo said:
I think with the right strain and a long enough veg you could get the yields you want. I believe @Bad Karma does one big plant per light in a 3x3......

Would you do a scrog or not?

Sorry to hear about the GF............
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Thanks. It will work out for the best.

And I am not too big on wanting nets or screens. I like bushes. They make me happy. :-)

I looked at the room and I think the next step of needed will be more like 4-5 under the dual air cooled 600's and 1 finishing and 1 stretching under the 315 and overlap areas.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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@Evil-Mobo

Oh. That leaves 4-6 plants in veg as well but under hid instead of flourescents.

And as far as strains. I only grow for quality.

My min yield has broken 3 oz from any plant now.

I am averaging almost 4.5 oz per. 20 oz per light with a good yielder but I always have different plants ripening each week for variety. So I figure a pound if I keep searching through OG type strains.

Posted yields are the way I pictured earlier in the thread. In 3 gal pots 4 under each 600 and 2 under the 315. The extra 2 are to fill in the gaps from 10 week flowering. We love Michigan rules oh yeah. But I have been inspectable for 3 years now.

Of course they would fuck me somehow anyway Is still always possible.
 
Bad Karma

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Evil-Mobo said:
I think with the right strain and a long enough veg you could get the yields you want. I believe @Bad Karma does one big plant per light in a 3x3......

Would you do a scrog or not?

Sorry to hear about the GF............
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I was doing with that in one of my 3x3's for a while but ultimately decided a to go back to a multi pot setup. Multiple containers dry out much quicker than one large container which helps keep humidity, and mold, in check.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Bad Karma said:
I was doing with that in one of my 3x3's for a while but ultimately decided a to go back to a multi pot setup. Multiple containers dry out much quicker than one large container which helps keep humidity, and mold, in check.
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That's why I will only transplant in steps. They have to have a good enough root ball before transplant.

My garden stays pretty much at 3 days in ocean forest. In veg when sooner I transplant up.

That's why I think it will take months longer to get the same yield. I kinda have started already. I could train more and up pot some late veg to 5's and plant one less for a minute.

It's the only other benefit than staying out of jail to the plant count and on hand meds rules. I always am starting a new plant and harvesting one near the same time so I just have to adjust and in time it will be less bigger plants.

But I can't really see 1 lb bushes in my little room.

Not even in my basement room I plan.

So we try to move up to 1/2 lb. schrubbs maybe. 4' x 30" shrubbs.

Is shrub the actual word? Mixing strains in a salad is always fulfilling. (Fullfilling?) wow.
 
Evil-Mobo

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Thanks. It will work out for the best.

And I am not too big on wanting nets or screens. I like bushes. They make me happy. :-)

I looked at the room and I think the next step of needed will be more like 4-5 under the dual air cooled 600's and 1 finishing and 1 stretching under the 315 and overlap areas.
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I like to grow bushes as well. Usually top once or twice and do lst. Then put up bamboo if needed.

I am however interested in a trying a scrog later down the road with a particular Sativa strain I have seeds of due to height restrictions in the tent.

You're on the right track brother just keep at it. My mission is to get an elbow consistently out of my 3x3 's now that I'm in the smaller spaces. Just max out the yield but not sacrifice the quality. I don't have as big a space as I did before.
 
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