ShLUbY

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Ah looks totally amazing!!! :D
How'd you end up getting the worms out?
You sifted it too, yes?
yeah i sifted all by hand with a little 12" classifier lol! It took a long time but it got the job done. i'm gonna build a harvesting drum in a big tote for the next harvest.

i dumped the bin contents onto the plastic and they all went to the bottom of the pile as close to the plastic as they could get... so i just kept scooping off the top and sifting. once i got to the bottom i would just flip over a portion of the pile and grab a clump of worms and put them in the new bedding. but sifting by hand.... no way never again lol. tumbler on the list of project to accomplish. I could use it for my outdoor compost too really.

glad everyone thinks they look as good as I think they do lol. reassuring indeed :)
 

calliandra

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yeah i sifted all by hand with a little 12" classifier lol! It took a long time but it got the job done. i'm gonna build a harvesting drum in a big tote for the next harvest.

i dumped the bin contents onto the plastic and they all went to the bottom of the pile as close to the plastic as they could get... so i just kept scooping off the top and sifting. once i got to the bottom i would just flip over a portion of the pile and grab a clump of worms and put them in the new bedding. but sifting by hand.... no way never again lol. tumbler on the list of project to accomplish. I could use it for my outdoor compost too really.

glad everyone thinks they look as good as I think they do lol. reassuring indeed :)
Ohlol :D What mesh size did you have?

Actually, I didn't sift my first batch at all - though perhaps I should've, as I found worm youngsters in the ACT residue - they were still alive after a long-ass brew of 50 hrs or so? :shock: lol
but still, not the type of experience I want to give them on a regular basis ;)

The reasons I didn't sift were: not to hurt the worms andto keep the fluffiness the woody leaf residue in there gives the compost, so it would stay aerobic and foster further fungal development in storage (however brief)... but yours looks fluffy enough there too! 8-)
 

ShLUbY

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Ohlol :D What mesh size did you have?

Actually, I didn't sift my first batch at all - though perhaps I should've, as I found worm youngsters in the ACT residue - they were still alive after a long-ass brew of 50 hrs or so? :shock: lol
but still, not the type of experience I want to give them on a regular basis ;)

The reasons I didn't sift were: not to hurt the worms andto keep the fluffiness the woody leaf residue in there gives the compost, so it would stay aerobic and foster further fungal development in storage (however brief)... but yours looks fluffy enough there too! 8-)
1/4" mesh size (~6.5mm)

i think the worms are tougher than you think they are lol (50 hours?!?! wow!). the sifting didn't seem to bother them too much. and like i said, when i dumped out the bins contents onto a tarp... they all went to the bottom! so i just kept grabbing from the top and worked my way down! i would get a couple in the material i was sifting but i'd just pick them out before i shook them to death haha.

maybe next time i will do what others have done and try to lure them over to the new bedding with a tasty treat. then i can just remove the finished stuff and harvest tumbler style!
 

calliandra

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1/4" mesh size (~6.5mm)

i think the worms are tougher than you think they are lol (50 hours?!?! wow!). the sifting didn't seem to bother them too much. and like i said, when i dumped out the bins contents onto a tarp... they all went to the bottom! so i just kept grabbing from the top and worked my way down! i would get a couple in the material i was sifting but i'd just pick them out before i shook them to death haha.

maybe next time i will do what others have done and try to lure them over to the new bedding with a tasty treat. then i can just remove the finished stuff and harvest tumbler style!
yeah I ended up doing that with the light and scooping off with my first batch too (directly in the wormbin, as I have 2 tiers), after trying to lure them up with goodies in the new tier for quite some time lol
Don't get me wrong, there was always a big party going on upstairs, but there were still hundreds of worms chilling down below.
So I'm not sure luring them is going to meet your expectations, though luring sideways, as it sounds the way you wrote it, may be more successful than in the tiers. Because I suspect that in the tiers, fresh food leaches down into the lower ones, keeping them attractive for longer? :rolleyes:

And no, I lied, actually it was a 60 hrs brew (edit: had to correct myself there) :p
It had started tipping, so I had to bubble it more to get it back on track. That does work! :bigjoint:
 
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whitebb2727

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oh hell yea, as important as the microbes to the organic growing.
surprisingly similar as well.
don't EVER take antibiotics unless it's a dire problem.
I also like the practice of licking the steering wheel of each car I work on also.
I call it indigenous microbe inoculations.

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I know right.

People want to be sterile now. Exsposure makes us stronger. I don't use antibiotics unless it is dire. It kills the good bacteria in your gut. That and the combination of anti bacterial soap and anti bacterial this and that has created mrsa.

My wife got a bad mrsa infection. Doc cut golf ball holes in her. About 8 of them. It came back and they wanted to cut more. We said screw that. Went with some herbal stuff. I shit you not. I watched with my own eyes kill the mrsa. Doctors didn't believe it. Said it must of been the antibiotics finally working.
 

whitebb2727

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1/4" mesh size (~6.5mm)

i think the worms are tougher than you think they are lol (50 hours?!?! wow!). the sifting didn't seem to bother them too much. and like i said, when i dumped out the bins contents onto a tarp... they all went to the bottom! so i just kept grabbing from the top and worked my way down! i would get a couple in the material i was sifting but i'd just pick them out before i shook them to death haha.

maybe next time i will do what others have done and try to lure them over to the new bedding with a tasty treat. then i can just remove the finished stuff and harvest tumbler style!
I'm going to make some worm farms. Maybe buy some.

You can also build the ones with a bar in the bottom you slide back and forth.
 

calliandra

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I'm going to make some worm farms. Maybe buy some.

You can also build the ones with a bar in the bottom you slide back and forth.
Yeah I was just thinking about those the other day - how I used to find them cool, and today wouldn't ever use one of those - anytime I lift a tier, there's worms hanging out of the screens like spaghetti - they would get cut through with a scraper bar like that o_O
 

whitebb2727

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Yeah I was just thinking about those the other day - how I used to find them cool, and today wouldn't ever use one of those - anytime I lift a tier, there's worms hanging out of the screens like spaghetti - they would get cut through with a scraper bar like that o_O
One with a cutter actually uses a round bar and its not a tier system. Just one tray or bin. You add what ever to feed the worms and let it build up and then just work the bar until you reach the worms.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I know right.

People want to be sterile now. Exsposure makes us stronger. I don't use antibiotics unless it is dire. It kills the good bacteria in your gut. That and the combination of anti bacterial soap and anti bacterial this and that has created mrsa.

My wife got a bad mrsa infection. Doc cut golf ball holes in her. About 8 of them. It came back and they wanted to cut more. We said screw that. Went with some herbal stuff. I shit you not. I watched with my own eyes kill the mrsa. Doctors didn't believe it. Said it must of been the antibiotics finally working.
shit yea, and it's all basic science no less and they act like it's a new discovery.
shit the mites around here did damn near the same thing, albeit different.
but they evolved to laugh at ALL the treatments i used, and i wasn't just using harsh language, multiple types of serious miticides, multiple pesticides, etc.
At the end a simple drop of dawn soap and lavender oil worked better than miticides did, and that was essentially just a physical desiccant-type spray.

mother nature ain't no joke, and she knows there are too many humans on the planet...
she's gotta protect herself.
overpopulation is a good breeding ground and a precursor to genetic abnormalities and evolution.
unsanitary conditions, malnutrition, pollution of water and ground, the sheer amount of people being in contact with each other, etc, etc.

All that coupled with doctors that are overwhelmed by their workload and simply throwing antibodies at everything..
Shit, there are strains that are even colistin resistant, and that's like the bottom-line antibody, docs don't bust that out for just anything

Antibodies freak me out, and ALL the meat we eat is LOADED with the shit.
the water...

check this shit out.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/antibiotics-in-drinking-water.htm
 

whitebb2727

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shit yea, and it's all basic science no less and they act like it's a new discovery.
shit the mites around here did damn near the same thing, albeit different.
but they evolved to laugh at ALL the treatments i used, and i wasn't just using harsh language, multiple types of serious miticides, multiple pesticides, etc.
At the end a simple drop of dawn soap and lavender oil worked better than miticides did, and that was essentially just a physical desiccant-type spray.

mother nature ain't no joke, and she knows there are too many humans on the planet...
she's gotta protect herself.
overpopulation is a good breeding ground and a precursor to genetic abnormalities and evolution.
unsanitary conditions, malnutrition, pollution of water and ground, the sheer amount of people being in contact with each other, etc, etc.

All that coupled with doctors that are overwhelmed by their workload and simply throwing antibodies at everything..
Shit, there are strains that are even colistin resistant, and that's like the bottom-line antibody, docs don't bust that out for just anything

Antibodies freak me out, and ALL the meat we eat is LOADED with the shit.
the water...

check this shit out.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/antibiotics-in-drinking-water.htm
There is a reason I grow, hunt and catch all my meat. There is nothing like good old fashion grass fed beef. Love eating chickens and chicken eggs we raise. They run loose and eat what ever. It makes the eggs get a dark yolk and they taste better. The meat itself taste more gamey.

People don't realize that the immune system is based on bacteria in the gut. The more diverse and populated, the stronger the immune system.
 

ShLUbY

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People don't realize that the immune system is based on bacteria in the gut. The more diverse and populated, the stronger the immune system.
couldn't be more true! and what's crazy is every time you eat something, the populations are different because of what you ate!

all the more reason to not wash your veggies too much. if you have good clean soil, it's ok to eat some! there was a book recommended to me about how we should be eating a couple pounds of good soil every year to help maintain diversity of organisms inside us! so it's ok to have some "grit" in that salad ;)
 

whitebb2727

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couldn't be more true! and what's crazy is every time you eat something, the populations are different because of what you ate!

all the more reason to not wash your veggies too much. if you have good clean soil, it's ok to eat some! there was a book recommended to me about how we should be eating a couple pounds of good soil every year to help maintain diversity of organisms inside us! so it's ok to have some "grit" in that salad ;)
Lol. I got pics somewhere from when my brother and I were kids. Dirt all around our mouths.

Now a days people trip over a little dirt.
 

greasemonkeymann

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People don't realize that the immune system is based on bacteria in the gut. The more diverse and populated, the stronger the immune system.
couldn't be more true! and what's crazy is every time you eat something, the populations are different because of what you ate!

all the more reason to not wash your veggies too much. if you have good clean soil, it's ok to eat some! there was a book recommended to me about how we should be eating a couple pounds of good soil every year to help maintain diversity of organisms inside us! so it's ok to have some "grit" in that salad ;)
wanna hear something gnarly?
in certain medical procedures, it's crucial to actually have a fecal transplant.
yeaaa...
essentially a microbial inoculation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant

Sorta a mindfuck to think of a strangers feces being.. well...
anyways..
Whats for lunch fellas?
 

whitebb2727

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wanna hear something gnarly?
in certain medical procedures, it's crucial to actually have a fecal transplant.
yeaaa...
essentially a microbial inoculation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_microbiota_transplant

Sorta a mindfuck to think of a strangers feces being.. well...
anyways..
Whats for lunch fellas?
Takes a lot to turn my stomach.

Never knew that though. I've seen weird things lime using maggots on abscesses that won't heal.

A strangers poo in me. Sounds like a good screen play.
 
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