Help Diagnose please!

[Steviesteve]

3rd week of veg from seed. I feel I have had slow growth. Watering every 3 days or so. Recently almost of my plants have been constantly drooping and a few of the lower leaves are yellowing. I'm using fox farm ocean forest and I've fed 1/3rd the suggest strength of FF grow big 2 or 3 times. I don't feel I am over/under watering. Going to transplant and see how they respond.

 

[chemphlegm]

fox farm soil is hot for youngins, with added ferts even hotter

 

[Bugeye]

^yup

 

[Tone24]

There way overwatered and you have given together with the soil already having the desired nutes in the soil way way to many nutes by adding extra nutes. As said above way to hot and burnt. Just leave them in the soil and water only do not add extra nutes
Water only when the pot is light to lift otherwise leave them to dry out a bit. Remember weed likes dryish times aswell as wet/moist

 

[Steviesteve]

I wait until the pots are very light then I completely saturate. Before seeing these responses I transplanted to slightly larger pots in straight FF ocean forest. Should I re-transplant them with basic soil until they come around?..
Thanks for the help

 

[Tone24]

I wait until the pots are very light then I completely saturate. Before seeing these responses I transplanted to slightly larger pots in straight FF ocean forest. Should I re-transplant them with basic soil until they come around?..
Thanks for the help

Dont saturate or the roots will drown just water so there moist, roots like to search the pot for water.
I would put them in a nutrient based soil that has nutes that lasts for 4/5 weeks then they get what they need without adding nutes whatsoever in them weeks just ph water till week 4/5

 

[Captain Keg]

Is that table/bench made from Sheetrock? We've a McGyver here!

The others are correct.
Your medium has all the nutrients your plants would need, you're essentially killing them with kindness by feeding them extra nutes again.
But it'll be fine, transplant them & if you're going to use the FF medium; wait until they've matured before introducing nutrients.

Best advice I can give, use the KISS method. I find most people over complicate minor things these days.

 

[Tone24]

These are mine using what i said no issues at all

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i don't see any clawing, or tip burn. they do not look over fed to me.
that really looks more like N deficiency than any kind of over feeding. lower growth turning yellow and dropping off while new growth looks healthy isn't any kind of over feeding

 

[Steviesteve]

Dont saturate or the roots will drown just water so there moist, roots like to search the pot for water.
I would put them in a nutrient based soil that has nutes that lasts for 4/5 weeks then they get what they need without adding nutes whatsoever in them weeks just ph water till week 4/5

I've always waterd just to keep moist and I know the roots expand in search of water so I'm sure I wait long enough inbetween waterings. But this time around I have been completely saturating because I frequently read on here of people watering until they have about 25% runoff, so I thought I made a change for the better. I'l switch that up again. I transplanted into slightly bigger pots so the nutes will be completely out of the picture.
Honestly, I never ph my water, it's time to start..

 

[Steviesteve]

Is that table/bench made from Sheetrock? We've a McGyver here!

The others are correct.
Your medium has all the nutrients your plants would need, you're essentially killing them with kindness by feeding them extra nutes again.
But it'll be fine, transplant them & if you're going to use the FF medium; wait until they've matured before introducing nutrients.

Best advice I can give, use the KISS method. I find most people over complicate minor things these days.

First off, yes.. that is Sheetrock.haha.
I created a ideal size surface that I can easily adjust the height of!
So anyways,
I purposely start out in as small pots as possible, I transplant numerous times to the next size bigger pot so that way I am constantly adding nice fresh soil every few weeks. The purpose is to minimize the need for extra nutes, so by doing this I should wait until 4/5 weeks in their final pot before introducing nutes?

I'm very interested in the KISS method, I think im going to set aside a plant or 2 and strictly follow it for a nice learning experience!

 

[Steviesteve]

i don't see any clawing, or tip burn. they do not look over fed to me.
that really looks more like N deficiency than any kind of over feeding. lower growth turning yellow and dropping off while new growth looks healthy isn't any kind of over feeding

These are exactly the thoughts I was having when I first asked for help.
I'm fairly positive I wait long enough inbetween waterings, I pick up pot to feel the weight and I also scratch the surface feeling form moisture.
No clawing.
No tip burn.
New growth is super dark green (which I believe is from high leveles of N)
The lowest leaves are yellowing and slowly withering away.
I thought it may be N deficiency as well but I don't understand how?!
I'm in fresh soil and I used a small amount of FF grow big so I feel, if anything, I should have a N toxicity issue for using nutrients to soon.

 

[Steviesteve]

UPDATE :
I transplanted these babies 15hrs ago.
Still using straight FFOF.
Gave them an extremely light watering.
Light was off for 8hrs and has been on for 7 now.. this is the response I've had so far..


Im nervous that the FF may still be to hot for them.. should I get some regular soil to mix with FF and re-transplant them quickly?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

they don't look over fed to me, but it might be something like too much iron blocking out manganese? you use well water? or tap water? does it have high ppm? smell like shit?

 

[Steviesteve]

they don't look over fed to me, but it might be something like too much iron blocking out manganese? you use well water? or tap water? does it have high ppm? smell like shit?

I do not use well water, I use tap/ bottled, whatever's on hand at the moment. Both of which look and smell completely normal. I do not know the ppm/ph

 

[Tone24]

I do not use well water, I use tap/ bottled, whatever's on hand at the moment. Both of which look and smell completely normal. I do not know the ppm/ph

Ph for soil should be between 6.0 / 7.0 i use de ionized water. Just leave them to grow water as and when needed as you say you're doing no nutes and see how they go.
Bottled water killed my first grow i didnt look at ph on the label and later found out by looking bottled water was 7.0/8.0 ph.. This was before i did my homework on growing but now these grows are just fine using de ionized all the way through the grow.
Hope this info helps

 

[Tone24]

UPDATE :
I transplanted these babies 15hrs ago.
Still using straight FFOF.
Gave them an extremely light watering.
Light was off for 8hrs and has been on for 7 now.. this is the response I've had so far..
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Im nervous that the FF may still be to hot for them.. should I get some regular soil to mix with FF and re-transplant them quickly?

Ff will be fine on its own for 4/5 weeks of growth as there past seedling stage