First timer: overwatering, rootlock, transplanted, now what?

[BroSki95]

First time grower here, just wana thank everyone for all the great info I've gotten over the past month or so. I'm wondering what is wrong with my plants (will post pictures below) but first some background info.

Soil: natures care (miracle grow) in 5gal Home Depot Buckets
Light: 300w No Name full spectrum LED, 2 23w (90w equivalent) CFL
Strain: 2 bag seeds, one white widow auto fem
Water pH: 6.2-6.5
Nutes: Go Box 50% strength
Space: 28x12x24 PVC frame (in my attic)

To start out, I feel like I've really messed these plants up. Started with 3 not really knowing what I was getting into, put them into a window box with one cfl for supplemental light as they were in my sunroom, and quickly realized that it wasn't nearly enough space or light for them.

I transplanted them 2 days ago, which was a disaster, roots from all three plants were wrapped around eachother, and around the entirety of the window box. When I transplanted them, I said a quick prayer and just scooped them out from the bottom, picking up all the dirt I could without picking up the plant next to it. Roots - everywhere - broken and mangled. I put them into new soil , gave em some root extract and was hoping for the best.

Yesterday, after adding my 300w led, I watered them at 50% strength for all the nutes and woke up to see this. Ive been searching the Internet and some say overwatering, some say root shock, some say underwatering, others say mute burn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?

Also, one of my plants has HUGE bottom leaves that are crispy and either burning from touching the soil or burning from another reason that I'm not sure of. Help?

Thanks dudes

 

[HarryCooter]

First time grower here, just wana thank everyone for all the great info I've gotten over the past month or so. I'm wondering what is wrong with my plants (will post pictures below) but first some background info.

Soil: natures care (miracle grow) in 5gal Home Depot Buckets
Light: 300w No Name full spectrum LED, 2 23w (90w equivalent) CFL
Strain: 2 bag seeds, one white widow auto fem
Water pH: 6.2-6.5
Nutes: Go Box 50% strength
Space: 28x12x24 PVC frame (in my attic)

To start out, I feel like I've really messed these plants up. Started with 3 not really knowing what I was getting into, put them into a window box with one cfl for supplemental light as they were in my sunroom, and quickly realized that it wasn't nearly enough space or light for them.

I transplanted them 2 days ago, which was a disaster, roots from all three plants were wrapped around eachother, and around the entirety of the window box. When I transplanted them, I said a quick prayer and just scooped them out from the bottom, picking up all the dirt I could without picking up the plant next to it. Roots - everywhere - broken and mangled. I put them into new soil , gave em some root extract and was hoping for the best.

Yesterday, after adding my 300w led, I watered them at 50% strength for all the nutes and woke up to see this. Ive been searching the Internet and some say overwatering, some say root shock, some say underwatering, others say mute burn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?

Also, one of my plants has HUGE bottom leaves that are crispy and either burning from touching the soil or burning from another reason that I'm not sure of. Help?

Thanks dudes

I'm thinking a combo of them being root bound and transplant shock. What kind of soil are you using?

 

[BroSki95]

I'm thinking a combo of them being root bound and transplant shock. What kind of soil are you using?

Natures care soil which is a Home Depot bag. Was flushed with water and in the sun for a week prior to germ

 

[HarryCooter]

Natures care soil which is a Home Depot bag. Was flushed with water and in the sun for a week prior to germ

There are forums where people are saying transplanting into that soil is not good. The ph is inconsistent and that would definately cause problems. You may want to consider a different soil.

 

[BroSki95]

There are forums where people are saying transplanting into that soil is not good. The ph is inconsistent and that would definately cause problems. You may want to consider a different soil.

So as of right now, what would be my best option. Could I just wait it out?

 

[HarryCooter]

So as of right now, what would be my best option. Could I just wait it out?

You could go get a soil ph kit and test the soil to see if that is the issue. If the ph is off there are ways of helping it. If it's only been a couple days I would retransplant, but that's me. I currently have my little ones veging in Dr Earths mix that you can get at home depot. The only issues I've had with it are easily corrected by applying microblast and meta-k, both of which you can find there as well. I think waiting it out would be a bad idea.

 

[BroSki95]

You could go get a soil ph kit and test the soil to see if that is the issue. If the ph is off there are ways of helping it. If it's only been a couple days I would retransplant, but that's me. I currently have my little ones veging in Dr Earths mix that you can get at home depot. The only issues I've had with it are easily corrected by applying microblast and meta-k, both of which you can find there as well. I think waiting it out would be a bad idea.

Now when you say soil pH, is that different than water pH. Obviously I know one is the water you feed it and such but can I flush the soil with water that's the same pH that I was using or will that not change the soil pH as much as I need, I used my tester and am getting 6.9 out of my soil. Typically feed between 6.2 - 6.5

 

[HarryCooter]

Now when you say soil pH, is that different than water pH. Obviously I know one is the water you feed it and such but can I flush the soil with water that's the same pH that I was using or will that not change the soil pH as much as I need, I used my tester and am getting 6.9 out of my soil. Typically feed between 6.2 - 6.5

Your soil will have its own ph. There's test kits you can buy for cheap at most home depot/Lowe's type stores. A water ph kit wont test soil correctly. With organic ferts flushing doesn't have the same effect as some using chemical. Is your plant still drooping down?

 

[BroSki95]

Your soil will have its own ph. There's test kits you can buy for cheap at most home depot/Lowe's type stores. A water ph kit wont test soil correctly. With organic ferts flushing doesn't have the same effect as some using chemical. Is your plant still drooping down?

Yes, it seems to be improving however I'm keeping close eyes on it. Will update tomarrow if anything happens

 

[BroSki95]

First time grower here, just wana thank everyone for all the great info I've gotten over the past month or so. I'm wondering what is wrong with my plants (will post pictures below) but first some background info.

Soil: natures care (miracle grow) in 5gal Home Depot Buckets
Light: 300w No Name full spectrum LED, 2 23w (90w equivalent) CFL
Strain: 2 bag seeds, one white widow auto fem
Water pH: 6.2-6.5
Nutes: Go Box 50% strength
Space: 28x12x24 PVC frame (in my attic)

To start out, I feel like I've really messed these plants up. Started with 3 not really knowing what I was getting into, put them into a window box with one cfl for supplemental light as they were in my sunroom, and quickly realized that it wasn't nearly enough space or light for them.

I transplanted them 2 days ago, which was a disaster, roots from all three plants were wrapped around eachother, and around the entirety of the window box. When I transplanted them, I said a quick prayer and just scooped them out from the bottom, picking up all the dirt I could without picking up the plant next to it. Roots - everywhere - broken and mangled. I put them into new soil , gave em some root extract and was hoping for the best.

Yesterday, after adding my 300w led, I watered them at 50% strength for all the nutes and woke up to see this. Ive been searching the Internet and some say overwatering, some say root shock, some say underwatering, others say mute burn. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?

Also, one of my plants has HUGE bottom leaves that are crispy and either burning from touching the soil or burning from another reason that I'm not sure of. Help?

Thanks dudes

UPDATE: after trying a few different things I gave up and decided to completely drench the plants in pH'd plane water. They responded by perking up slightly. May have been underwatered. Being so new and reading all this information about overwatering I may have been underwatering them to avoid over doing it. Lesson learned

 

[SPLFreak808]

When you see the leaf and stem sag together, it indicates low turgor pressure (underwater,broken/damaged roots,unable to transpire)

 

[BroSki95]

When you see the leaf and stem sag together, it indicates low turgor pressure (underwater,broken/damaged roots,unable to transpire)

So, in other words if the leaf sags it's over watered.
If stem AND leaf sag, underwater?

 

[SPLFreak808]

So, in other words if the leaf sags it's over watered.
If stem AND leaf sag, underwater?

With new growers this is true 90% of the time. Other things can sag just the fans too (bad air quality,too much N,too much humidity ect)

 

[BroSki95]

With new growers this is true 90% of the time. Other things can sag just the fans, but it usually comes with an error indication (bad air quality,too much N,too much humidity ect)

Thanks man, appreciate the info

 

[felixblaze]

You need some proper drainage and absorbtion in your soil i would add perlite and vermiculite to your mix.