Topdawg Genetics

kona gold

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I keep it at 55 drying, takes a solid week
To get the main dried then I cut and jar burping 3x a day for a week then once a day
I'm still a noob to curing but all I get is slight terp with light sour milk. If you break it up it has some dank
Sorry if I came off harsh.
What is your set up like?
I had to take a run down at 6-7 weeks due to some issues.
Still full stink and flavor.
All his gear seems to really stink!
 

morgwar

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Sorry if I came off harsh.
What is your set up like?
I had to take a run down at 6-7 weeks due to some issues.
Still full stink and flavor.
All his gear seems to really stink!
Nope not harsh very constructive!
For drying I have an home depot fiberboard armoire 2ftx3ftx6ft sealed with duct tape and fitted with a desk fan for circ running low, and 2cpu fans input\output that run when this handy dandy deal

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DK2T2Y/ref=asc_df_B005DK2T2Y5006312/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B005DK2T2Y&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167120909983&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4929025074710914066&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030894&hvtargid=pla-304573306715

Trips it at 55 and a cool humidifier from Walmart that starts running at 50
 

chemphlegm

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You arent wet trimming are you? If so then I bet that is the source of the "losing scent in cure" issue.
I know some growers who do the same as I. We wet trim at harvest, dry in a controlled space at 75f air movement below 55% RH for around 7-10 days for the best experience ever. nothing is suffering unless we jar it up/burp it/ferment it further, then it gets to sucking, the effects are changed and the over all experience sucks.unless......

I have found weed that gets better with a jar/burp/ferment though, its the one I fed too much/too long and/or harvested early. many people harvest early, count wrong, over feed feed to the end etc...no wonder many claim "it gets better"...
tobacco is fed to the day of harvest also. it needs to be sweat also, just to be able to inhale it without a choke for thought. organic grown tobacco tastes sweet and smooth dried the same, I know, the jigs up fermenters.....

but knowing people bury their weed till it molds and say thats the best too....to each his own
 

BigLittlejohn

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I used to trim at harvest so I am only speaking on my personal experiences. I don't claim to have the answers or the best way of doing things but am only reporting on what I have personally experienced. I used to wet trim, now I don't. The community is free to make of that information what it will. If you wet trim and are satisfied with your product, more power to you. That's what it is all about. Finding what works best for you and your situation.
 

ShyGuru

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I keep it at 55 drying, takes a solid week
To get the main dried then I cut and jar burping 3x a day for a week then once a day
I'm still a noob to curing but all I get is slight terp with light sour milk. If you break it up it has some dank
Do you have hygrometers in your jars? What's the humidity at when you first jar them? From what I've read if your jarred humidity is under 55% the curing process stops. I prefer to trim early and if it's still a bit too damp leave the jar open. Maybe try cutting a day or two off that solid week and see if that helps.
 

morgwar

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Do you have hygrometers in your jars? What's the humidity at when you first jar them? From what I've read if your jarred humidity is under 55% the curing process stops. I prefer to trim early and if it's still a bit too damp leave the jar open. Maybe try cutting a day or two off that solid week and see if that helps.
Thanks, I have one hygrometer that I swap between jars but it gets up to 65% that whole first week. I'm also looking at later harvests and a change up in nutes.
 

morgwar

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That's all spot on.

I was more inquiring about your grow.
Soil/hydro?
Organic/chem?
Lights......?
I'm running as of today 418 watts at the wall vero 18's 6in 3500 and 6 in 3000
Soil and typically ffof with 1/3 supersoil original recipe, and biobizz nutes with added epsom and a tblspn molasses, lemon juice to ph 6
3x3 tent reflective mylar and 175 cfm output passive input in a airconditioned room. During veg I keep it 72 degrees @45 humidity (desert living)
Flower is the same, bio control is Monterey neem 3x a week up to 1st or second week flower
Still working out kinks but getting there
 

kona gold

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I'm running as of today 418 watts at the wall vero 18's 6in 3500 and 6 in 3000
Soil and typically ffof with 1/3 supersoil original recipe, and biobizz nutes with added epsom and a tblspn molasses, lemon juice to ph 6
3x3 tent reflective mylar and 175 cfm output passive input in a airconditioned room. During veg I keep it 72 degrees @45 humidity (desert living)
Flower is the same, bio control is Monterey neem 3x a week up to 1st or second week flower
Still working out kinks but getting there
That sounds like a nice set up.
And I see your love and I also see your enjoyment of the tech/scientific end. Which I enjoy as well.
So this is some possibilities that I might throw at you.
It's hard to do this because of the amount of info out there, and forums, then personal input, and possibility friends.....can drive one crazy!!!!!
But I'll throw it out there for you anyway.:)
Fox farm not the greatest, I know it's part of the super soil recipe. If that's the one I'm thinking about from Sub.
Too hot. Won't bring out that deeper quality your looking for.
All the addatives might be working against you. Not saying I know this for sure, so no disrespect.
Sometimes some things just don't get along. They might seem like they might, but unless your mixing your mix and everything and taking that to a lab to see if all that doesn't lock each other out, or not work together properly, you might not be getting the most out of your soil.
Just saying it's hard to know.
So you might want to try a slightly cooler mix.
Neem oil can also impart a flavor orharharshness to the final product.
 

chemphlegm

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I used to trim at harvest so I am only speaking on my personal experiences. I don't claim to have the answers or the best way of doing things but am only reporting on what I have personally experienced. I used to wet trim, now I don't. The community is free to make of that information what it will. If you wet trim and are satisfied with your product, more power to you. That's what it is all about. Finding what works best for you and your situation.
:clap:
best way to select, grow trim dry and cure is right here^^^^^^
 

morgwar

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That sounds like a nice set up.
And I see your love and I also see your enjoyment of the tech/scientific end. Which I enjoy as well.
So this is some possibilities that I might throw at you.
It's hard to do this because of the amount of info out there, and forums, then personal input, and possibility friends.....can drive one crazy!!!!!
But I'll throw it out there for you anyway.:)
Fox farm not the greatest, I know it's part of the super soil recipe. If that's the one I'm thinking about from Sub.
Too hot. Won't bring out that deeper quality your looking for.
All the addatives might be working against you. Not saying I know this for sure, so no disrespect.
Sometimes some things just don't get along. They might seem like they might, but unless your mixing your mix and everything and taking that to a lab to see if all that doesn't lock each other out, or not work together properly, you might not be getting the most out of your soil.
Just saying it's hard to know.
So you might want to try a slightly cooler mix.
Neem oil can also impart a flavor orharharshness to the final product.
I will be taking a closer look at my soil recipe, thanks !
No worries as to offense!
I came here to learn, and apreciate the heads up!
 

naiveCon

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That sounds like a nice set up.
And I see your love and I also see your enjoyment of the tech/scientific end. Which I enjoy as well.
So this is some possibilities that I might throw at you.
It's hard to do this because of the amount of info out there, and forums, then personal input, and possibility friends.....can drive one crazy!!!!!
But I'll throw it out there for you anyway.:)
Fox farm not the greatest, I know it's part of the super soil recipe. If that's the one I'm thinking about from Sub.
Too hot. Won't bring out that deeper quality your looking for.
All the addatives might be working against you. Not saying I know this for sure, so no disrespect.
Sometimes some things just don't get along. They might seem like they might, but unless your mixing your mix and everything and taking that to a lab to see if all that doesn't lock each other out, or not work together properly, you might not be getting the most out of your soil.
Just saying it's hard to know.
So you might want to try a slightly cooler mix.
Neem oil can also impart a flavor orharharshness to the final product.
I know in the world of hot peppers, Promix was the go-to growing medium. Not sure how it fares in this world as i use coco strictly.
Maybe someone can chime in ?
Yes yes, I know this is the topdawg seed thread..
 

kona gold

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@morgwar.
OK here is some words of caution on pro mix or sunshine #4.
But mostly pro mix.
Check the smell before you buy!!!!
If it smells earthy and peat like your all good.
But if it smells sour, ceder, or some kind of fuel, don't buy it!!
It will fuck your shit up!
 

Jameshaze999

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@morgwar.
OK here is some words of caution on pro mix or sunshine #4.
But mostly pro mix.
Check the smell before you buy!!!!
If it smells earthy and peat like your all good.
But if it smells sour, ceder, or some kind of fuel, don't buy it!!
It will fuck your shit up!
Yeah whats up with that cause its old or what
 

morgwar

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@morgwar.
OK here is some words of caution on pro mix or sunshine #4.
But mostly pro mix.
Check the smell before you buy!!!!
If it smells earthy and peat like your all good.
But if it smells sour, ceder, or some kind of fuel, don't buy it!!
It will fuck your shit up!
Lol man, would you believe me if I told you that the only time I was able to hit 8oz, I was using Dr earth home grown.
I've had success with nectar of the gods soil too, but nothing to write home about.
I'll give pro mix a try in the July run!
 
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