A Guide To Colloidal Silver

[elwood_the_great]

I did this last year on a Snow White lady and it worked really well for me.The plant reverted and made plenty of balls, so I froze some pollen.She then changed back to female flowers which produced about 50 mature seeds.A friend grew out four that produced well.I'm going to try with a jock horror auto flower for her pollen but not sure if it will have enough time to make seeds as well.

 

[HighLowGrow]

I did this last year on a Snow White lady and it worked really well for me.The plant reverted and made plenty of balls, so I froze some pollen.She then changed back to female flowers which produced about 50 mature seeds.A friend grew out four that produced well.I'm going to try with a jock horror auto flower for her pollen but not sure if it will have enough time to make seeds as well.

Don't forget to send me some seeds.

 

[Daniel Lawton]

I did this last year on a Snow White lady and it worked really well for me./QUOTE]

I bought all the autoflower feminized seeds one famous site has (most sprouted in 1.5 days!), and sprayed them with colloidal silver made according to this thread.

I got pollen from all, but a very tiny bit from the AK47. I made the mistake of spraying it twice a day like they recommend, only sprayed 2 branches, wanting to save the rest of use. And I kept spraying too long.

I did the same with lowryder. I started both too late, it was already showing female parts. But I didn't keep spraying the lowryder as much, so I got a little more pollen (just a pinch of it, which I mixed with rice flower to use).

But from the rest (amnesia haze, blueberry, northern lights, super skunk, and white widow) I got a huge amount of pollen! I started them earlier, and stopped spraying once I recognized that they'd gone male.

The trick is, spray the whole plant just before it's going to show flowers (when it's pretty big and the new growth is slightly different looking). Spray just the outside, you don't need to spray inside. New growth on the outside is more than enough.

Eventually it'll be covered in the unmistakable little male pods, just like they show in images on the net. If you catch it before any female parts show there will be no signs of female parts on the top. Inside where the spray doesn't reach, you'll have female parts. So what? Lowryder gave me a couple of clone seeds because of that. And there's going to be so darned much pollen as a result of this, you won't even want to collect it all from the center.

I tried the cutting off a branch. It's too much trouble. Just wait until the little pods pop open and grab them with firm tweesers. You can pick them earlier if you like, such as when they have brown stripes and seem about to open. But there will be so darned many popping open once it matures, you'll permanently forget about being impatient and grabbing them before they open. At first you'll only get a couple and worry, but eventually a day will come when you collect as much as you could ever need, in one session.

The colloidal silver made according to this pages instructions never burned or harmed any of the plants, except where I went nuts spraying 2 or 3 times a day. Then it only caused some distortion or silver coloration on the leaves.

I hear some people just let the pollen fall on something, but I was doing 6 at the same time, and had to make sure there wasn't cross mixing.

One more thing: That disolved solids meter doesn't work right with colloidal silver. I would reach 50ppm, then decide to water it down to 30ppm. I'd calculate the amount of water, add it, and it would still measure 50ppm.

Works great with water though, calcs come out perfectly (like trying to lower disolved solids in fish tank).

So I know it's not the meter. Don't believe the meter for colloidal silver, maybe just go for the yellow/brown color?

 

[MiStUrX]

Poon I understood how we get fem seed, just wasn't sure if a femed female was genetically different than a reg female.

I don't know about genetics but i can tell you from 5 years of using this technique the seeds i made were exactly the same as the parents or parent. Ive done both photo and auto varieties. When i flip a plant its always one branch and i only pollinate one branch. A lot of people here spray the whole plant down, no need to. One branch could pollinate a field and one branch can also make over a hundred seeds if done correctly. Another bonus is that if you have only one female you can still make selfed seeds aka S-1 seeds.

 

[Lucky88]

Anyone tried spraying an area on a plant with CS and placing a bag over it so it just produces pollen in that bagged area for later use?? Curious to know if you can yield while say collecting auto pollen at same time? Would plant still grow in that area even though it's sealed off from rest of plant? would you be able to do in reverse and have pollen in sealed bag already and create seeds on specific area of a plant ?? Anyone with knowledge of this 2 cents would be great

 

[OldMedUser]

Tho I haven't used CS yet I have collected pollen by putting a paper bag with a plastic window over a branch on a male plant so I could keep it in the grow room and collect it's pollen. I chopped off all but one branch and bagged it. Using just a plastic bag would not allow moisture to escape and likely kill all the pollen so I taped a piece of clear plastic over a hole I cut in a paper bag. and used a twist-tie to keep the end closed. Once it's dropped it's pollen I just cut the whole thing off the plant and take it elsewhere to open it and collect the pollen. Worked good and the pollen made me many seeds.

I've done this a few times over the years but now I just cut a couple branches off a male, stick them in a glass of water under a 23W CFL and collect the pollen on tin foil in a box in the bedroom closet. The rest of the plant goes in the compost.

 

[SCJedi]

Thank you for posting this. I've always just bought mine from Amazon that works well. I won't post a link but it was 50ppm and costs about $20USD for a 16 OZ bottle. I'd rather make my own.

The last time I used it was to save the genetics of a clone only strain that I have had for years. (UW)

I will use silver again this year for an outdoor, all seed crop. My plan is to spray an excellent Blackwater pheno and ring it with some other cuttings we just picked up. If I can get a tent set up I will pop some UW seeds and hit them with some of the Blackwater pollen too.

I'll make a generator this weekend if I can source the silver wire quickly.

Thanks again!

 

[SCJedi]

I was going to edit my post above to add pics but could not figure out how.

This was the UW X UW project that I made. I bought 50ppm commercial CS (untested) from Amazon and sprayed once a day beginning at the 12/12 flip until flowers began to show. I never saw anything abnormal like burn, etc. Once it began to throw balls I quarantined it and collected its pollen. I let it go as long as possible and ended up with about 24 good seeds plus whatever my roommate took.

I included a few pics of what the female plants from the same run looked like in DWC bubble buckets.

 

[bullSnot]

On day 15 of spraying and still no signs of it changing to male...60 ppm colodial silver. The plant is just making female pistols but they are kind of scarce so something seems like it is restricting full blown female...will spray 3-4 times a day to see if that helps...otherwise I am going to give up and chop em down. Maybe the silver was really crap.

 

[MiStUrX]

On day 15 of spraying and still no signs of it changing to male...60 ppm colodial silver. The plant is just making female pistols but they are kind of scarce so something seems like it is restricting full blown female...will spray 3-4 times a day to see if that helps...otherwise I am going to give up and chop em down. Maybe the silver was really crap.

Is it an auto or photo? when did you start spraying? What brand did you buy? did you flip the whole plant or branch? I have never seen a plant not flip, never. I wouldn't give up, it takes time for the little balls to show up. The other females always start blooming first which is why you need to start the plant you are going to flip a few days ahead of time. If you didnt start the flip ahead of time of the ladies you will just have to let the seeds mature a little longer. You will always see pistols forming way before the balls show up, this doesnt mean it will not flip.

Added: Do not increase spraying too much it will hurt the plant especially if its 60ppm. Watch your leafs if they look sort of stressed back off a bit but keep spraying.

 

[bullSnot]

Is it an auto or photo? when did you start spraying? What brand did you buy? did you flip the whole plant or branch? I have never seen a plant not flip, never. I wouldn't give up, it takes time for the little balls to show up. The other females always start blooming first which is why you need to start the plant you are going to flip a few days ahead of time.

Atlantean alchemy 60 ppm. I have two photo blue dream plants trying to flip...the whole plant. They are about 24 inch bushes...almost through 32 oz of CS.

 

[MiStUrX]

Atlantean alchemy 60 ppm. I have two photo blue dream plants trying to flip...the whole plant. They are about 24 inch bushes...almost through 32 oz of CS.

Start focusing on a few branches not the whole plant. It will start showing female pistols way before you start seeing balls. In nature the balls come first but when you flip you will start seeing female pistols come first then the balls much later. Be patient it will happen. If you start seeing stress such as deformed leafs back off a bit but dont stop.

 

[MiStUrX]

Atlantean alchemy 60 ppm. I have two photo blue dream plants trying to flip...the whole plant. They are about 24 inch bushes...almost through 32 oz of CS.

Auto= start flipping as soon as you see female pistols

Photo= start spraying two or three days before you switch lights to 12/12, YOu can start much later however if you do you will have to wait a lot longer for the seeds to mature since you pollinated much later.

 

[MiStUrX]

Atlantean alchemy 60 ppm. I have two photo blue dream plants trying to flip...the whole plant. They are about 24 inch bushes...almost through 32 oz of CS.

Just remember let the seeds mature, this can take a lot longer than harvest. Wait till the plant is almost dead before you harvest seeds. Ive seen seeds mature in two weeks other times it can take up to 8 weeks from the time you pollinated. If you harvest too early you will get a bunch of immature white seeds.

 

[bullSnot]

So finally it looks like they flipped to male, can see all sorts of balls developing where the pistols would have been. Seems spraying the buds 2-3 times a day (3 days) did it.

Are the nutrient requirements the same as a female?

 

[maxamus1]

So after spraying a plant with CS can you smoke any of the bud at all even if you only spray a branch?

 

[bullSnot]

So after spraying a plant with CS can you smoke any of the bud at all even if you only spray a branch?

I would not...I always turn the whole plant...why not get enough pollen for a few hundred seeds.

 

[OldMedUser]

A 1/4 tsp of pollen can make thousands of seeds so why waste a whole plant. You can get that much pollen off a single branch and safely smoke the rest of the plant.

 

[MiStUrX]

I would not...I always turn the whole plant...why not get enough pollen for a few hundred seeds.

One puny male flower can pollinate a hundred plants making tens of thousands of seeds. One branch can produce a few hundred male flowers. Plus you can also make s-1 seeds "self pollination" if you flip one branch.

 

[Daniel Lawton]

Does anyone have experience with F1 Hybrid seeds made this way? I mean, how much do the genetics vary, if both parents were autoflower female seeds (of different varieties), and pollen forced on one was used on the other?

I recently made some White Widow x Super Skunk seeds this way.

Then I took 6 of the seeds and planted them outdoors using just potting soil and osmocote.

I planted another one indoors to see if 24/7 LED light was superior to a day of sunshine. But I also tested re-using my fabric pot and soil on that one I planted indoors.

It was excellent potting soil, I mixed it from Edna's plus 6 more ingredients recommended in just about every web article. And it worked extremely well on 12 plants I produced before that. I just wanted to know, can you use it 2 times without adding anything?

That was a big mistake. And old engineering rule: never test 2 things at once if you can avoid it. It's too hard to figure out what's wrong.

So now I don't know. Are my F1H seeds genetically inferior, or is it all about the poor potting soil?