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Hazeytreats

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Hey guys I'm trying my first run at autos and have some strange goings on. It's my first indoor grow too. All 3 are fast buds 1 blackberry 1 green crack and 1 super lemon haze.the super lemon haze has some serious leaf curl, originally thought feed might be too strong so dropped the feed and seemed to curl even more do moved the light and still curling? Any other problems that could cause this? The second problem is on the black berry.its got some weird shaped leaf and they seem very very dry. Upped nutriance and also dropped it when I upped it started to get some burn marks so dropped it and went back to how it is now? I've had a bit of a read up on fast buds and here they are quite unstable? The green crack seems to be the pick of the lot up to now and has no problems what so ever apart from been pretty low and stumpy buy I'm hoping once flowering starts it will stretch out a bit.

Pic 1-2 blackberry
Pic 3 green crack
Pic 4 super lemon haze
 

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Hazeytreats said:
Hey guys I'm trying my first run at autos and have some strange goings on. It's my first indoor grow too. All 3 are fast buds 1 blackberry 1 green crack and 1 super lemon haze.the super lemon haze has some serious leaf curl, originally thought feed might be too strong so dropped the feed and seemed to curl even more do moved the light and still curling? Any other problems that could cause this? The second problem is on the black berry.its got some weird shaped leaf and they seem very very dry. Upped nutriance and also dropped it when I upped it started to get some burn marks so dropped it and went back to how it is now? I've had a bit of a read up on fast buds and here they are quite unstable? The green crack seems to be the pick of the lot up to now and has no problems what so ever apart from been pretty low and stumpy buy I'm hoping once flowering starts it will stretch out a bit.

Pic 1-2 blackberry
Pic 3 green crack
Pic 4 super lemon haze
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What type of ph range do you keep your water & also your nutrients at? Also what type of medium are you using?
 
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Are they curling up or down and is the plant darker or lighter green? I would guess probably too much or too little water along with too much nutrients how often do you give them water with and without nutes?
 
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Hazeytreats

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213 said:
Are they curling up or down and is the plant darker or lighter green? I would guess probably too much or too little water along with too much nutrients how often do you give them water with and without nutes?
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The blackberry isn't curling at all just the leads just look very dry and aren't growing straight? The super lemon haze is curling up so that's what made me think nutes was too strong so I dropped it and still did the same. That made me think the light was too low so moved that and still did the same so it's stumped me. They get watered every night at 7pm by that point the pots are gone dry and really really light the biggest one gets 2 litres a night up to now and the smaller ones are taking about a litre and a litre and a half, just enough to get a bit of over pour in the in the tray
 
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Really not too sure about this one man, all i can think of is you are watering too often and the roots are not getting enough time to get oxygen.
Overwatering does not always mean you've been giving the plant too much water. It often means you've been giving the plant water too often, or growing plants in a growing medium without enough drainage.

Plants use their roots to get oxygen. Oxygen is dissolved in water, and there's also air pockets in their grow medium to provide a source of oxygen. When you water your plants too often, its roots are sitting in stagnant water which no longer has any oxygen left. The reason your plants droop is because basically their roots are starving for oxygen.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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That Lemon Haze is definitely suffering from too many nutes. I would flush that with straight ph'd water and let it dry out on top. Then give half strength nutes. It's too small for what your feeding it. I never get above 1.0 in full flower. That plant should be getting no more than .6 and if you water regularly the plant will still get all the nutrients it needs. Years ago I learned that whatever nutrients you are using always cut the dose in half. That goes for soil as well. I see too many pictures of good looking bud but the leaves look like crap from too many nutes. Those same plants would have much better buds if the nutrient level had been reduced during the entire grow. This is a weed. It doesn't require large amounts of nutrients. Adding too many nutrients is what leads to deficiencies because you turn the grow medium into a semi-toxic environment where the various chemicals react in ways that hinder the plants ability to uptake what it needs.

Flush that baby good, wait a week and then give half strength nutes. The new growth should start to look much better. Those curled leaves can't be fixed and will stay like that for the duration of the plants life. The great thing about coco is that it's so easy to flush and start over.

For PH I run 5.7 in veg and 6.0 in flower. Works like a charm with half strength nutes. No curled leaves and no deficiencies. Been doing it this way for years.
 
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Hazeytreats

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furious248 said:
Really not too sure about this one man, all i can think of is you are watering too often and the roots are not getting enough time to get oxygen.
Overwatering does not always mean you've been giving the plant too much water. It often means you've been giving the plant water too often, or growing plants in a growing medium without enough drainage.

Plants use their roots to get oxygen. Oxygen is dissolved in water, and there's also air pockets in their grow medium to provide a source of oxygen. When you water your plants too often, its roots are sitting in stagnant water which no longer has any oxygen left. The reason your plants droop is because basically their roots are starving for oxygen.
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Thanks man. I'm only watering them on the nightly at 7pm I usually gage them by how heavy they are and by then there really light. I usually only give enough water that it gets a small bit of over pour in the pot tray. I'm pretty new to indoor but I've grown a lot out doors and I've never had anything like this. thanks for the input man!
 
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xtsho said:
That Lemon Haze is definitely suffering from too many nutes. I would flush that with straight ph'd water and let it dry out on top. Then give half strength nutes. It's too small for what your feeding it. I never get above 1.0 in full flower. That plant should be getting no more than .6 and if you water regularly the plant will still get all the nutrients it needs. Years ago I learned that whatever nutrients you are using always cut the dose in half. That goes for soil as well. I see too many pictures of good looking bud but the leaves look like crap from too many nutes. Those same plants would have much better buds if the nutrient level had been reduced during the entire grow. This is a weed. It doesn't require large amounts of nutrients. Adding too many nutrients is what leads to deficiencies because you turn the grow medium into a semi-toxic environment where the various chemicals react in ways that hinder the plants ability to uptake what it needs.

Flush that baby good, wait a week and then give half strength nutes. The new growth should start to look much better. Those curled leaves can't be fixed and will stay like that for the duration of the plants life. The great thing about coco is that it's so easy to flush and start over.

For PH I run 5.7 in veg and 6.0 in flower. Works like a charm with half strength nutes. No curled leaves and no deficiencies. Been doing it this way for years.
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I did drop the nutes when it first started it then started to change colour so upped it again. Its started flowering now and think It has about 3-4 weeks left. will it matter if I flush it or do I just take it on the chin and learn from my mistake this time and not do it next time? Its strange because the green crack is about 2 weeks younger than the lemon and its thriving on the feed I have been giving it. I've been following the grow guide on cannas web site for coco.ill hate that in mind about the oh for my next crop thanks!
 
whytewidow

whytewidow

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Some strains take more nutes. The green crack may feed more than the lemon haze. It also depends on the genetics and or size of the plant too. But that def looks like over water
 
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