Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

Fogdog

Fogdog

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postickslim said:
It was not white Christian's that attacked Boston. Not sure if you live in the states or in England but England is under attack and it isn't from white Christian's. With over a million Muslims in England, ever here of the Trojan horse.
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So, you are worried about a fraction of the 25% non-Christian terrorists while 75% of all terror attacks are by white Christians.

derp
 
esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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@SneekyNinja or anyone who likes math

the u.s. pop is 318.86 . more than half of U.S. wage earners made less than $30,000. half of 318 is 159.

6,455,240 people earn at least $500K annually that's 2% of the entire pop.
take "one-percenters" or say there are only 3,227,620 people earning that much. that's 3,227,620 people

now tax that 3,227,620 people each $1,000 a month or 12,000 a year.
divide that money equally between the 159 million making under 30,000 .
you have $20.29 left over and a whole 3,227,620 more people earning over 500k left, if you need more
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
Mr libertarian is cranky today. you want guns, drugs, hookers all to be legal and you want to redistribute wealth and keep the welfare state, that about right?

let's hear about the ubi from you.
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face it, you are Republican status quo trump cocksucker who is embarrased to admit it in a public forum. And so, you call yourself a "libertarian" because that can mean whatever people want it to mean and sounds edgy.
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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esh dov ets said:
@SneekyNinja or anyone who likes math

the u.s. pop is 318.86 . more than half of U.S. wage earners made less than $30,000. half of 318 is 159.

6,455,240 people earn at least $500K annually that's 2% of the entire pop.
take "one-percenters" or say there are only 3,227,620 people earning that much. that's 3,227,620 people

now tax that 3,227,620 people each $1,000 a month or 12,000 a year.
divide that money equally between the 159 million making under 30,000 .
you have $20.29 left over and a whole 3,227,620 more people earning over 500k left, if you need more
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umm, The entire us population doesn't work. Quite a few are too young, old, disabled, at school and a few are unemployed. So, your arithmatic (sic) might be correct but your initial assumptions are off.
 
postickslim

postickslim

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The Western world is not under attack from Christians. You are uninformed or simply full of pretzel logic.
Fogdog said:
So, you are worried about a fraction of the 25% non-Christian terrorists while 75% of all terror attacks are by white Christians.

der
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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postickslim said:
The Western world is not under attack from Christians. You are uninformed or simply full of pretzel logic.
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The western world is not under attack by Muslims. I point out that the preponderance of all terror attacks in the US come from people born in the US. Practically all of those terror US attacks are by white Christians. The propaganda tactics you have fallen prey to are fear mongering and scapegoating of minorities. The person you should fear is the white man who sits in the pew next to you.
 
esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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Fogdog said:
umm, The entire us population doesn't work. Quite a few are too young, old, disabled, at school and a few are unemployed. So, your arithmatic (sic) might be correct but your initial assumptions are off.
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what assumptions? if you don't count children, thats less people to split the money between and you have to count the unemployed . i think you missed the point.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Lucky Luke said:
Just thought id share Australias tax rate for anyone comparing. Under 18k no tax payable.

Current Resident Tax Rates 2017 - 2018
Taxable income Tax on this income
$0 – $18,200 Nil
$18,201– $37,000 19c for each $1 over $18,200
$37,001 - $87,000 $3,572 plus 32.5c for each $1 over $37,000
$87,001 - $180,000 $19,822 plus 37c for each $1 over $87,000
$180,001 and over $54,232 plus 45c for every $1 over $180,000

https://exfin.com/australian-tax-rates
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Looking this over again, it seems very progressive.

It also seems like a lot of tax is coming from low brackets, but as you say it's covering a lot, including universal health care.

I like how the tiers work; the higher rates only apply to higher income slices, this ensuring that one always gets more money the more one earns. In America's tax brackets, this is not the case.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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esh dov ets said:
what assumptions? if you don't count children, thats less people to split the money between and you have to count the unemployed . i think you missed the point.
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You mixed up your input numbers. Children don't work and so don't make 30k per year. The median income in 2015 was 35k, but that's a small error compared to your assumption that every man woman and child have an income.
 
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