Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

Fogdog

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you need help finding the libertarian platform? it's non-negotiable, like my currency is.

very much unlike you post modern Marxists posing as democrats and the republicans which are Democrat lites.
LOL

You are really going to call me a communist? How archaic.

Face it, you are a status quo Republican. About the worst thing anybody can be called. And its true.
 

UncleBuck

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I was there last weekend. I knew two of them.
the neo-nazis and trump supporters on this forum just ignore their deaths at the hands of a white terrorist who was radicalized by conservative groups and online racist websites because it does not fit the agenda they have among their conservative groups and online racist websites.
 

UncleBuck

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LOL

You are really going to call me a communist? How archaic.

Face it, you are a status quo Republican. About the worst thing anybody can be called. And its true.
he didn't use to be, he used to be pretty far right. but the republican party decided to coddle nazis and klanheads, so now he is.
 

twostrokenut

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Children count for welfare, food stamps and tax deductions, why not basic income? They eat and need shelter, services like education and healthcare.
basic income is actully welfare. food stamps are welfare and tax deductions are welfare.

Jesus christ.
 

esh dov ets

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You mixed up your input numbers. Children don't work and so don't make 30k per year. The median income in 2015 was 35k, but that's a small error compared to your assumption that every man woman and child have an income.
no, they don't have to have an income to make zero. zero is still less than 30k .
what numbers are mixed up?
 

Fogdog

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no, they don't have to have an income to make zero. zero is still less than 30k .
what numbers are mixed up?
People who don't earn an income aren't wage earners. The statistic you quote is "median personal income" of people who earn one. I don't even know what to call what you are referring to but it would be a lot less than 30k.
 
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esh dov ets

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I didnt run your numbers but at face value you could definitely tax them more than that individually...

No-one opposes the wealthier paying more, it's the smash and grab tactics by some on the ridiculous left that most people oppose.

You have to make the payment universal though, so count that into your math and increase taxes accordingly.
what purpose does it serve to give the wealthy more money? why do you "have to make it universal"?
enough people oppose having the rich pay more. hence , they don't.
what smash and grab tactics? sounds like propaganda against having the rich pay taxes.
 

SneekyNinja

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what purpose does it serve to give the wealthy more money? why do you "have to make it universal"?
enough people oppose having the rich pay more. hence , they don't.
what smash and grab tactics? sounds like propaganda against having the rich pay taxes.
I'll give you a hint...

Its symbolism, you give it to them with one hand and take many times more with the other.

Its based on the principle that everyone gets it, hence "universal".
 

TacoMac

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the neo-nazis and trump supporters on this forum just ignore their deaths at the hands of a white terrorist who was radicalized by conservative groups and online racist websites because it does not fit the agenda they have among their conservative groups and online racist websites.
You know what's amazing?

The people of that EAM church are actually praying for that asshole.

I spoke with Chris (Sharonda's son) and even he is praying for that waste of life.

That's what pisses me off more than anything - they're actually people of God, salt of the earth, as good as they come...and that sack of shit is still breathing.

And nobody cares. They're all too worried about some Muslim that got a scholarship to Yale getting into the country.
 

esh dov ets

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People who don't earn an income aren't wage earners. The statistic you quote is "median income" of people who earn one. I don't even know what to call what you are referring to but it would be a lot less than 30k.
i i was using the top 1% to cover half the total pop . 159 million is half the pop not half the earners. everyone under 30k including kids can be easily covered by taxing to top 2 % wealthiest . everyone including kids living ff of less than 30 k is just over 50% of the total pop.
 
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