ttystikk
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I beat you to it! Neener neener lol
My 8hr flowering experiment
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ThcGuy
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Lol, I thought you were Cobs. My bad, I read too many grow journals.
As for grams per square foot, I've always just used floor space.
torontoke
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Great minds or something
whitebb2727
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It will not work for autos. It will but yield will suffer greatly.
I've run numerous light cycles on autos. Even 12/12 for a seed run yielded a few joints. The same seeds under 19/5 got 3 foot tall.
torontoke
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Decided to cut a few clones off the grandpasbreath just out of curiousity more then anything.
See if they are hard to root and what they grow like.
Didn't cut the others since I have more space monkey and more cowbell in the tent.
Trying some aggressive training on the lucky charms and false teeth.
Going to try to get them as busy as possible pre flip.
That's one thing I've noticed with the pcb led. Not much stretch at all.
Thought it was strain or pot size but the roots are never grown right to the bottom of the pots and I've grown plenty saty doms and even they didn't go over 36"
Also decided I'm only going to hit a few lowers on the lucky charms and space monkey to make crosses.
I think that will be enough crosses to play with and do some pheno hunting.
See if they are hard to root and what they grow like.
Didn't cut the others since I have more space monkey and more cowbell in the tent.
Trying some aggressive training on the lucky charms and false teeth.
Going to try to get them as busy as possible pre flip.
That's one thing I've noticed with the pcb led. Not much stretch at all.
Thought it was strain or pot size but the roots are never grown right to the bottom of the pots and I've grown plenty saty doms and even they didn't go over 36"
Also decided I'm only going to hit a few lowers on the lucky charms and space monkey to make crosses.
I think that will be enough crosses to play with and do some pheno hunting.
OneHitDone
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Ok, this concept has my attention!
Want to run an idea by you adventurous experimenting types - you are running an 8 hour lights on period....
What if those of use who run a typical 1000W hps hung over a 5x5 were to hang say 2 4ft T5's (one on each side of the hood), run the T5's for 4 hours at lights on and then have the 1000W come on for the next 8 hours with the T5's dropping off a half hour or so after the big lights come on. This would effectively keep us in a 12 hour cycle and greatly cut energy use.
Any thoughts on what the outcome might be from those who have been doing these light cycle experiments?
Want to run an idea by you adventurous experimenting types - you are running an 8 hour lights on period....
What if those of use who run a typical 1000W hps hung over a 5x5 were to hang say 2 4ft T5's (one on each side of the hood), run the T5's for 4 hours at lights on and then have the 1000W come on for the next 8 hours with the T5's dropping off a half hour or so after the big lights come on. This would effectively keep us in a 12 hour cycle and greatly cut energy use.
Any thoughts on what the outcome might be from those who have been doing these light cycle experiments?
torontoke
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Interesting idea
Couple years ago I had a similar idea.
Back when I agreed with everyone that indoor growers were supposed to mimic the sun. I thought maybe if u had the light on a timed programable dimmer that started out at 30-40% and slowly intensifies til ur at peak 5hrs in then decrease back down.
Didn't have the desire to try it that badly obviously but I think it would work better than expected.
Now my guess on your idea @OneHitDone is that it would work with results similar to mine. A couple t5's aren't going to do much over a 5x5 so I'm not sure they would be worth even firing up.
That being said it's a great idea that I'd love to see someone try, perhaps with a few more t5's to help get things kickstarted.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though this is simply my guess as to what would happen. Results may vary
Couple years ago I had a similar idea.
Back when I agreed with everyone that indoor growers were supposed to mimic the sun. I thought maybe if u had the light on a timed programable dimmer that started out at 30-40% and slowly intensifies til ur at peak 5hrs in then decrease back down.
Didn't have the desire to try it that badly obviously but I think it would work better than expected.
Now my guess on your idea @OneHitDone is that it would work with results similar to mine. A couple t5's aren't going to do much over a 5x5 so I'm not sure they would be worth even firing up.
That being said it's a great idea that I'd love to see someone try, perhaps with a few more t5's to help get things kickstarted.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though this is simply my guess as to what would happen. Results may vary
ttystikk
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Some 15 years ago this guy named Heath Robinson ran a setup with hanging bare 600W HPS. He ran one on one side of the plant for 6 hours, then another on the other side of the plant for 6 hours. Said he got serious weight with a lot less light per gram of yield.Interesting idea
Couple years ago I had a similar idea.
Back when I agreed with everyone that indoor growers were supposed to mimic the sun. I thought maybe if u had the light on a timed programable dimmer that started out at 30-40% and slowly intensifies til ur at peak 5hrs in then decrease back down.
Didn't have the desire to try it that badly obviously but I think it would work better than expected.
Now my guess on your idea @OneHitDone is that it would work with results similar to mine. A couple t5's aren't going to do much over a 5x5 so I'm not sure they would be worth even firing up.
That being said it's a great idea that I'd love to see someone try, perhaps with a few more t5's to help get things kickstarted.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though this is simply my guess as to what would happen. Results may vary
I'm still thinking about it.
mr. childs
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...peach cobbler... damn... RESPECT for finding that pheno...
torontoke
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I remember it well sir
Ran a similar pvc tube setup on overgrow and thcfarmer years ago.
Wasn't interested in saving energy back then so I ignored a lot of things I wish I'd taken better note of.
Honestly don't know if any such pheno is known of but this thing smells exactly like peach cobbler. Stem rubs followed by a smile everytime.
And the best part is it's full of seed
ttystikk
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Lol you know that dates us, right?I remember it well sir
Ran a similar pvc tube setup on overgrow and thcfarmer years ago.
Wasn't interested in saving energy back then so I ignored a lot of things I wish I'd taken better note of.
Honestly don't know if any such pheno is known of but this thing smells exactly like peach cobbler. Stem rubs followed by a smile everytime.
And the best part is it's full of seed
torontoke
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Ya I've been on and off pot forums since well the internet started really.
My kids can't even remember life pre internet so it's been a while indeed.
Stealthstyle
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Heath was one grower i always looked forward to reading from. 2 pounds a plant etc indoors. True green thumb with a lot of hydro and engineering skills.
torontoke
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2 lbs? I remember 60-75oz plants
Monsters that needed every branch tied to the ceiling. Those were the days.
Now we get forum trolls making penis jokes and sales reps arguing over just about everything.
OneHitDone
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I have read quite a bit of your journal but can you give me the quick 1 liner as to the results and if 8 hour lighting cycles are producing results or not?Interesting idea
Couple years ago I had a similar idea.
Back when I agreed with everyone that indoor growers were supposed to mimic the sun. I thought maybe if u had the light on a timed programable dimmer that started out at 30-40% and slowly intensifies til ur at peak 5hrs in then decrease back down.
Didn't have the desire to try it that badly obviously but I think it would work better than expected.
Now my guess on your idea @OneHitDone is that it would work with results similar to mine. A couple t5's aren't going to do much over a 5x5 so I'm not sure they would be worth even firing up.
That being said it's a great idea that I'd love to see someone try, perhaps with a few more t5's to help get things kickstarted.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though this is simply my guess as to what would happen. Results may vary
My idea was to use the T5's just for "waking" the plants up and shifting them into photosynthesis mode, not actually do much photosynthesizing with the T5's.
I could be talking out my ass but all this light cycle talk has me excited lol
This would still keep the plant in a 12 hour photoperiod hormonally right?