Topdawg Genetics

Observe & Report

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All seed makers are "open game." Every one of them stands on the shoulders of giants. There is no reason you can't boost yourself up there too. If you want to make seeds, make seeds. If you want to sell seeds, sell seeds. Good luck.

I'm sick of the stupid "you can't make crosses with my seeds" attitude some of these breeders have. All of those jackasses, ALL OF THEM, have zero qualms about using a cut from an "unknown" breeder. You think JJ has blessing from the breeder of Cherry Pie? Archive's entire business is built on crossing Face Off OG, a cross he didn't make, to other crosses he didn't make and he goes off on "fuckboys" all the time.

So if you still have some hesitation about using your best plants to breed with you should forget about it. Literally, just forget who the breeder is and you're golden under the Official Unspoken Rules Of The Seed Making Game.
 

We Can Make Sandwiches

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Agreed with the above post

Im gonna be finding a nice lady & afew studs from my Strawberry Star that was chucked and released once and making afew f2, crosses and whatever..might work that bitch into an IBL and give them out and no credit will be given to JJ.
 

morgwar

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I'm searching a lot of these strains, here, ig, ic, google. For all the strains he's realeased,,,,,,, not a lot of grows or photos.
Lots of duplicate picks of the same strains.
Am I crazy? 91 chem #12 just a single grow?
I get paranoid sometimes. Maybe I'm not searching right?
 

Lightgreen2k

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I'm searching a lot of these strains, here, ig, ic, google. For all the strains he's realeased,,,,,,, not a lot of grows or photos.
Lots of duplicate picks of the same strains.
Am I crazy? 91 chem #12 just a single grow?
I get paranoid sometimes. Maybe I'm not searching right?
Lots of the strains are new. IE 2016 created. Lots of people didnt post there older grows..

Grow them out... I have never seen any of my strains grown out prior to I have grown them..
 

Vato_504

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I'm searching a lot of these strains, here, ig, ic, google. For all the strains he's realeased,,,,,,, not a lot of grows or photos.
Lots of duplicate picks of the same strains.
Am I crazy? 91 chem #12 just a single grow?
I get paranoid sometimes. Maybe I'm not searching right?
To be honest fam nobody really growing JJ shit anymore. Why spend $200-$300 on watered down genetics when there's other breeders that have the same thing but better.
 

morgwar

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To be honest fam nobody really growing JJ shit anymore. Why spend $200-$300 on watered down genetics when there's other breeders that have the same thing but better.
I'm a bit late to the party.
Lol I got what I needed.
Sometimes that last call chick surprises ya.
 

chemphlegm

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I've got mixed feelings about TD gear today. Fact is over 20 TD strain lines have been culled here just this year, and I didnt even save any copies. The only TD gear in a test tube here are this Super City !
I fantasize about his purest chem expressions, worked and perfected, without the hit or miss success of late. Tres 2 has been worked for a long time here and I'ma bout done with her too.
My Super City redeemed his efforts, kudos. The Super Skunk really did fix any issues I had with The Tres Stardawg line up. I'll likely keep at least one of her expressions forever. I have several to choose from currently and all are some of the best herb I've experienced.
 

morgwar

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Me and you both. Good think about my last call I have a potna in @BigLittlejohn that showed me mad love on my packs of TDS. Like 50-60% off. So I'm not complaining.
Biglittlejohns a cool cat.
Threads always get interesting when you all lay down some knowledge.
Ill find what I need and catch up at the emerald cup.

I've got mixed feelings about TD gear today. Fact is over 20 TD strain lines have been culled here just this year, and I didnt even save any copies. The only TD gear in a test tube here are this Super City !
I fantasize about his purest chem expressions, worked and perfected, without the hit or miss success of late. Tres 2 has been worked for a long time here and I'ma bout done with her too.
My Super City redeemed his efforts, kudos. The Super Skunk really did fix any issues I had with The Tres Stardawg line up. I'll likely keep at least one of her expressions forever. I have several to choose from currently and all are some of the best herb I've experienced.
Bringing in that skunk again probably made a huge difference man! Take a look a the royal family, once they started marrying into the Spanish and french, all those weird diseases went away.
Gotta bring new blood in sometimes.
 

Lightgreen2k

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I've got mixed feelings about TD gear today. Fact is over 20 TD strain lines have been culled here just this year, and I didnt even save any copies. The only TD gear in a test tube here are this Super City !
I fantasize about his purest chem expressions, worked and perfected, without the hit or miss success of late. Tres 2 has been worked for a long time here and I'ma bout done with her too.
My Super City redeemed his efforts, kudos. The Super Skunk really did fix any issues I had with The Tres Stardawg line up. I'll likely keep at least one of her expressions forever. I have several to choose from currently and all are some of the best herb I've experienced.
I feel bad for you, on the gear you have. I have not grown out any of the 2016 gear and newer.

However
@gu from greenpoint seeds and Ink both found solid males in the old gear.

Question is why is everyone so late to the party. What where you doing in 2010 , 2011 , even 2012..

@chemphlegm

Have you grown out any of his IX crosses..
 

chemphlegm

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I feel bad for you, on the gear you have. I have not grown out any of the 2016 gear and newer.

However
@gu from greenpoint seeds and Ink both found solid males in the old gear.

Question is why is everyone so late to the party. What where you doing in 2010 , 2011 , even 2012..

@chemphlegm

Have you grown out any of his IX crosses..
no dude, you misunderstood. dont feel sorry for me or my gear. I own maybe every td offering, and most of Gu's gear. read up and see Gu has taken over all but 2 of my 72 count grow, I have near 20 strains growing full time. I'm a Chemdog junkie, when I found TD I thought I could live with or fix some of the shortcomings I often experienced with the gear. I kept on with a few of them, lived with any issue, then discovered Gu's work. Raindance set the bar here. copper came along and floored us, wtf..bye bye TD. My loyalty is based on a curve. I demand the very best in every aspect of my experience. perfection is acceptable here. I spent a fortune on my controlled space and need to trust a breeder. I trust Gu now, havent been let down. I got a special place for that last line though as said, TD mastered his game with the Super City, and also the Tres Stardawg 2, the very best of every td gear I ran, and I ran all several times over the yrs. ts2 may or may not remain after the summer, undecided still. the rest fell to the seed side storage.
 
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chemphlegm

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I see Mr. Gassed out genetics showed up to the party with his negativity. Only if you knew how to grow those old packs of TDS you would be great. Pass them shits to a grower and now plant ruiner...
learn how to grow? me?
theres not a chemdog in my room that gets grown any differently than any of the others. no room for punks and butch's in my space. 72 rocking ass strong representations remain. like I'm the only one noticing issues along the way with this line? does it surprise you that an accomplished grower may develop discerning tastes and growing preferences along the way, maybe choosing favorites among hundreds of td choices? shit I change my mind sometimes every couple years in my garden.
peace out
 

Vato_504

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no dude, you misunderstood. dont feel sorry for me or my gear. I own maybe every td offering, and most of Gu's gear. read up and see Gu has taken over all but 2 of my 72 count grow, I have near 20 strains growing full time. I'm a Chemdog junkie, when I found TD I thought I could live with or fix some of the shortcomings I often experienced with the gear. I kept on with a few of them, lived with any issue, then discovered Gu's work. Raindance set the bar here. copper came along and floored us, wtf..bye bye TD. My loyalty is based on a curve. I demand the very best in every aspect of my experience. perfection is acceptable here. I spent a fortune on my controlled space and need to trust a breeder. I trust Gu now, havent been let down. I got a special place for that last line though as said, TD mastered his game with the Super City, and also the Tres Stardawg 2, the very best of every td gear I ran, and I ran all several times over the yrs. ts2 may or may not remain after the summer, undecided still. the rest fell to the seed side storage.
Damn you got me wanting to pop that copper now fam. Did you find you a nice copper male to hit some females with?
 

Vato_504

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learn how to grow? me?
theres not a chemdog in my room that gets grown any differently than any of the others. no room for punks and butch's in my space. 72 rocking ass strong representations remain. like I'm the only one noticing issues along the way with this line? does it surprise you that an accomplished grower may develop discerning tastes and growing preferences along the way, maybe choosing favorites among hundreds of td choices? shit I change my mind sometimes every couple years in my garden.
peace out
Nah not you fam he knows who I'm talking to. Your shit be on point.
 

chemphlegm

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Damn you got me wanting to pop that copper now fam. Did you find you a nice copper male to hit some females with?
yes, every copper chem male and female is a star. I cloned him(s), sterilized him(s) and put him in a test tube forever. for later, maybe. if I wanna be @Gu~ someday or sumpin.. I did self some too. some of many strains
 
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