Topdawg Genetics

[BigLittlejohn]

I am far from unbiased I admit but it is simply crazy to me to call Mycotek gear "off brand". Only the truly ignorant can do that in the face of 3 well known posters reporting actual results.

 

[morgwar]

From what I'm reading there are only a couple dozen true strains of cannabis. We all know the cushes and diesels came from the same bag mixed with Afghan.
Chem is probably a hybrid off whatever was popular at the time.
At least half of a plants potential is from medium or environment.
To see my whole point look at a Chihuahua and a wolf. They are the same animal. With simple selection and time the Chihuahua can be made back into what it was.
If you have 413 chem, with time and selection it can be made back into any one of its ancestors and purified.
There's no magic here, no special talent.
Anybody can do it. And we've been doing it for milenia. So yeah nobody owns wheat, nobody owns broccoli, nobody owns angus, and nobody owns chemdawg or any of the rest. You get credit for the work MAYBE!
other than that, it's open source.

 

[BigLittlejohn]

Absolutely.

 

[chemphlegm]

From what I'm reading there are only a couple dozen true strains of cannabis. We all know the cushes and diesels came from the same bag mixed with Afghan.
Chem is probably a hybrid off whatever was popular at the time.
At least half of a plants potential is from medium or environment.
To see my whole point look at a Chihuahua and a wolf. They are the same animal. With simple selection and time the Chihuahua can be made back into what it was.
If you have 413 chem, with time and selection it can be made back into any one of its ancestors and purified.
There's no magic here, no special talent.
Anybody can do it. And we've been doing it for milenia. So yeah nobody owns wheat, nobody owns broccoli, nobody owns angus, and nobody owns chemdawg or any of the rest. You get credit for the work MAYBE!
other than that, it's open source.

well, at least I own Chemphlegm so yeah..

 

[Jameshaze999]

I told you that Hellbreath is better than Stardawg IX. It's no imitation when it outright beats it for way less money.

Go ahead and pay more for inferior chucks, you won't hurt my feelings.

I should try that one too . Somehow you got me interested .

 

[Jameshaze999]

You know im thinking I should run some specail sativa I have and cross them to some IX or onycd . How you guys think those will come out . Wish I had that 3 chems . Breeding stock

 

[Jameshaze999]

It's good but there's as good and some better in mycotek packs for less money (for now, seems to be a common theme with the price increases among breeders.) My IX notoriously throws nuts if not perfectly dialed.

I have a IX that throws them out too but its very nice . Maybe treat it with reverse . Its so frosty and grows great . My keeper IX is not as loud but no nanners and more potent and is ready in 57 days . Big frosty nugs . Im about to run either nyc chem , 91 chem#12 or onycd next . Will do one of those with extra care and I hope to find a keeper .

 

[chemphlegm]

super city is here to stay but TresStardawg 2 has lost her spot in the garden.

 

[maxamus1]

Hey guys have a quick question.. I would like to know what would be the best strain to get from TD to get the closest representation of the original Chen d? Or where to find skunk va seeds at?

 

[GetoBoyFarmer]

Hey guys have a quick question.. I would like to know what would be the best strain to get from TD to get the closest representation of the original Chen d? Or where to find skunk va seeds at?

Copper Chem Greenpoint Seeds

 

[Gu~]

Copper Chem Greenpoint Seeds

savage

 

[kona gold]

Don't flatter yourself, your smarmy tone and aforementioned picture have been noticed by anyone who has followed this thread from inception, of which I am one.

I didn't say JJ gear wasn't good. What I said is he won't get any more of my money. Reading comprehension...try it out sometime.

Again, JJ admitted, in writing that he doesn't test and he chucks. Why should anyone pay $300 for that? Someone using his outcrosses after taking the time to hunt the best one and then working it into something else while selling it for 1/3 of the cost seems like the better buy to me, but I cant stop any fool from doing what they want with their money.

I don't know where this shit comes from, like there is some standard in the seed business!
Testing is for shitty breeders! If you know what you are doing, no need to test.
Secondly if I send out seeds to others, before I release them, I put myself in a vulnerable situation! I now have to trust people to be honest, good growers, and people who won't take my work, make seeds of it before I release it, and steal my work!
Fuck that, and fuck all you people who don't know what it's like to not have seeds available from so many vendors!
It's like since this internet chat room shit, people feel entitled to things because people are selling their life's work, and it's no big deal to you guys! Remember it's still illegal, and was even more iillegal when these guys originally started to sell seeds!
Buy some, make your own, and shut your fucking complaining spoiled asses up!

Sorry to those whom respect what a gift it is to be able to buy seeds, as this stuff really gets under my skin!

 

[CannaBruh]

So you've established you're unaware of any standards or protocol or etiquette, cool, move along you aren't up to speed no need to beat the guy up because you are naive to the world around you. Have a little faith in people, who cares if they make seeds from your seeds, good, great! Make a shit load and share them! I hope they turn out amazing!!

 

[kona gold]

From what I'm reading there are only a couple dozen true strains of cannabis. We all know the cushes and diesels came from the same bag mixed with Afghan.
Chem is probably a hybrid off whatever was popular at the time.
At least half of a plants potential is from medium or environment.
To see my whole point look at a Chihuahua and a wolf. They are the same animal. With simple selection and time the Chihuahua can be made back into what it was.
If you have 413 chem, with time and selection it can be made back into any one of its ancestors and purified.
There's no magic here, no special talent.
Anybody can do it. And we've been doing it for milenia. So yeah nobody owns wheat, nobody owns broccoli, nobody owns angus, and nobody owns chemdawg or any of the rest. You get credit for the work MAYBE!
other than that, it's open source.

Bull.
Not anyone can do it.
It takes a special eye, a special nose, a special person.
That sir is why cannabis is not as good or as diversified as it was prior to prop 215.
Just because anyone can grow or breed cannabis, doesn't make them a top grower or breeder!
All this shit does is pollute the cannabis genetics!
I can't wait till all the fly by nite growers fall way side.
Just cause on can, doesn't make them good at it, and just cause someone can follow a soil recipe or instructions on a bottle doesn't make their end products top medicine or quality.

 

[kona gold]

So you've established you're unaware of any standards or protocol or etiquette, cool, move along you aren't up to speed no need to beat the guy up because you are naive to the world around you. Have a little faith in people, who cares if they make seeds from your seeds, good, great! Make a shit load and share them! I hope they turn out amazing!!

I am completely aware, but I don't agree!

 

[CannaBruh]

So you're anti-standard?

 

[morgwar]

Bull.
Not anyone can do it.
It takes a special eye, a special nose, a special person.
That sir is why cannabis is not as good or as diversified as it was prior to prop 215.
Just because anyone can grow or breed cannabis, doesn't make them a top grower or breeder!
All this shit does is pollute the cannabis genetics!
I can't wait till all the fly by nite growers fall way side.
Just cause on can, doesn't make them good at it, and just cause someone can follow a soil recipe or instructions on a bottle doesn't make their end products top medicine or quality.

Correction. Anyone with an agricultural background. Seriously difficult special?
I know 4h kids that could outbreed you're precious messiah ever been to the midwest? try a county fair freind.

 

[kona gold]

So you're anti-standard?

Yes, as far as seeds go especially.
I am stoked to even be able to get people's work.
Sure I had my share of herms, and poor phenos, but I also get a gem or two.
That is more than enough for me to appreciate.
I can do the rest, and prefer, to do the real work on these genetics.
I am not counting on ten for ten, because I know the reality. I don't have false expectations, and I am not concerned about prices if it gives me a shot at a legit strain I want or have always wanted.
So I just get angry at all this seed breeder put down game. If you expect the holy grail, then you are setting yourself up for disappointments.

 

[kona gold]

Correction. Anyone with an agricultural background. Seriously difficult special?
I know 4h kids that could outbreed you're precious messiah ever been to the midwest? try a county fair freind.

Who is this precious messiah you speak of?
And yes special is exactly correct.
Sure an agriculture background will help, but it's much more than that.
It's like saying thc is all that matters.
What you might or might not know, is that cannabis is bonded to the human genome. That is not just a plant! It's connection to us is deep and spiritual, and cannabis is highly intelligent! So it requires a special spirit to grow it, so it can become medicinal. It is all about who grows it!!!
You might have some guy running a factory grow, who doesn't like or smoke cannabis, but sees dollars as the end game. No matter how magnificent the product looks, it lacks that spirit, good energy, and love that only certain ones can give this plant to bring out its true essence.
This has been proven time, and time again.
I have smoked a lot, from a lot of sources, and it proves itself time and time again.
So, anyone can grow it, but only a few can produce chronic top shelf medicine.

 

[BigLittlejohn]

I won't pay $300 for your untested shit. If that angers you, I'm sorry. If you then go and then troll other "breeders" and do other shit I find detestable I won't support you. Simple as that. Your seedbreeder put down game comments are misdirected. I chalk that up to you not knowing JJs behavior or being a friend. And for the record Ive put plenty of money in His pocket.