⚠︎ Brother OneHitDone Gone VERTICAL ⇪

[Hybridway]

Mammoth P is really for soil and soilless grows with lots of micro life. It won't help you in sterile hydro.

I know some of the guys originally involved with the project, it was developed right here in northern Colorado.

I'm in Pro-Mix. Peet n perlite.
At the grow store the person said its not like ClearX & won't kill microbes. Forgot the word she used to describe the difference. Still would like to know from someone who's tried it.

 

[zep_lover]

Naw, haven't. Is that something I can just google?
Is it a side by side? Surprised they haven't started using lenses on them yet, unless I'm just not seeing it.
Wow, you really put allot of work into this vertical build to test. Was this your only run using this technique?
I'd like to see @zep_lover do this using a Horizon on each side, 2 cobs @ the top & the screen in the middle. Wazup Zep?!

no time or plant count for that right now.have been thinking of getting one just to try my 1 sided style.
just reconfigured one of my first cxb lights to do a horizontal grow.my sour bubble does not like being bent or trained the way i usually do my plants.it takes 3 months to get it tall enough to fill my screen.my gg4 takes 3 to 4 weeks.i am putting a 4 week sour bubble in with a 4 cxb 3590 light built to 18 inch by 20 inch above it and no trimming to see how much i can get that way with much less veg.if acceptable yield,i will run my indicas that way and my vert screens with the hybrids.just picked up cherynobyl but it has been slow since transplanting from soil to my ppk system.

 

[OneHitDone]

Naw, haven't. Is that something I can just google?
Is it a side by side? Surprised they haven't started using lenses on them yet, unless I'm just not seeing it.
Wow, you really put allot of work into this vertical build to test. Was this your only run using this technique?
I'd like to see @zep_lover do this using a Horizon on each side, 2 cobs @ the top & the screen in the middle. Wazup Zep?!

Does anyone here have an opinion or experience using Mammoth P w/ the H&G line up? I ask cuz I recently Introduced the DripClean to their feed & want to add the Mammoth but feel the Drip clean will kill it. Any input on this would be appreciated.

Grand Master Level Genetics is a Canadian grower on youtube who put out the challenge to all led companies to put up a light and he would replace 1 hps in one of his rooms with it and partition it and all that so it's truly led only on that batch of plants.
I brought it to attention in one of the threads and Big Johnson @Stephenj37826 was the only one to step up and send a light, putting it all out there for us to see come harvest time. Mega kudos to him and also Grand Master Level Genetics who I feel from what I have seen is not afraid to step on toes if the light doesn't bring it!

As to the vertical with the trellis - I had 2 harvest that way and that was enough for me. A strain that always produces nice easy to trim nugglets all the way down became a multi-day trim nightmare when grown that way. Tons of little shit and just not the quality I am looking for. Certain individuals can argue till their blue in the face about that being a great way to produce cannabis flowers, and maybe for extracts it is but for flowers I think NOT!
The way @pinner420 and @PKHydro rock the big outdoor type non-trellised plants is the way to roll with vertical lamps. Unfortunately that takes a bit more space than I am growing in to do it right so back flatlander I go.

 

[ttystikk]

Grand Master Level Genetics is a Canadian grower on youtube who put out the challenge to all led companies to put up a light and he would replace 1 hps in one of his rooms with it and partition it and all that so it's truly led only on that batch of plants.
I brought it to attention in one of the threads and Big Johnson @Stephenj37826 was the only one to step up and send a light, putting it all out there for us to see come harvest time. Mega kudos to him and also Grand Master Level Genetics who I feel from what I have seen is not afraid to step on toes if the light doesn't bring it!

As to the vertical with the trellis - I had 2 harvest that way and that was enough for me. A strain that always produces nice easy to trim nugglets all the way down became a multi-day trim nightmare when grown that way. Tons of little shit and just not the quality I am looking for. Certain individuals can argue till their blue in the face about that being a great way to produce cannabis flowers, and maybe for extracts it is but for flowers I think NOT!
The way @pinner420 and @PKHydro rock the big outdoor type non-trellised plants is the way to roll with vertical lamps. Unfortunately that takes a bit more space than I am growing in to do it right so back flatlander I go.

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You can get nice big way to trim colas with vertical, you just have to train the plant properly.

 

[Stephenj37826]

I'm in Pro-Mix. Peet n perlite.
At the grow store the person said its not like ClearX & won't kill microbes. Forgot the word she used to describe the difference. Still would like to know from someone who's tried it.

Mammoth P is a specific/combination of strains of bacteria that are very efficient at making P available. ? It works great in all mediums. I personally know the guys as can attest to there scientific background and the products quality. @Growmau5 did a great video on it side by side. We give out free samples of it with the HLG-550 and have had many positive user reviews. Send us your address @Hybridway and we will send you a couple sample bottles. You can share your results with us all.

 

[zep_lover]

not trying to sell vertical but when you train and trim the plant for vertical scrog properly it is easier in my opinion and experience than horizontal grows.i have been getting around 9 oz a plant using 1 200 watt cxb 3590 light per plant and adding an extra 200 watt light between plants when i have a extra light.it takes me about an hour to trim a plant.i do use a spin pro.i have had no larf and usually only end up with not even a half oz of good sugar trim per plant when done.i am not dialed in yet.i have been doing vertical in some form or another for over 6 years.takes some time to learn the training needed to not get tons of larf bud.this is the same plant first pic is flip day and second is 14 days later.i did have a ph problem so there is some issues going on.my ph meter went out of calibration and i corrected the "issue" without checking calibration first.got to lazy since my myron l ultra pen had not gone out of calibration in over a year.oops
if plant is trained and cleaned properly,i do not get many or any of the weird buds from being behind the screen or out of good light.
my gg4 with a 4 to 6 week veg is all that is needed to fill my 2 1/2 foot by 6 foot high screen.the screen starts at 20 inches though.the plant is usually about 2/3 the height of the screen.that is variable since i run prepetual and nothing ever goes like clockwork

 

[ttystikk]

View attachment 4008689 View attachment 4008691 not trying to sell vertical but when you train and trim the plant for vertical scrog properly it is easier in my opinion and experience than horizontal grows.i have been getting around 9 oz a plant using 1 200 watt cxb 3590 light per plant and adding an extra 200 watt light between plants when i have a extra light.it takes me about an hour to trim a plant.i do use a spin pro.i have had no larf and usually only end up with not even a half oz of good sugar trim per plant when done.i am not dialed in yet.i have been doing vertical in some form or another for over 6 years.takes some time to learn the training needed to not get tons of larf bud.this is the same plant first pic is flip day and second is 14 days later.i did have a ph problem so there is some issues going on.my ph meter went out of calibration and i corrected the "issue" without checking calibration first.got to lazy since my myron l ultra pen had not gone out of calibration in over a year.oops
if plant is trained and cleaned properly,i do not get many or any of the weird buds from being behind the screen or out of good light.
my gg4 with a 4 to 6 week veg is all that is needed to fill my 2 1/2 foot by 6 foot high screen.the screen starts at 20 inches though.the plant is usually about 2/3 the height of the screen.that is variable since i run prepetual and nothing ever goes like clockwork

Looking good, man.

 

[Hybridway]

Mammoth P is a specific/combination of strains of bacteria that are very efficient at making P available. ? It works great in all mediums. I personally know the guys as can attest to there scientific background and the products quality. @Growmau5 did a great video on it side by side. We give out free samples of it with the HLG-550 and have had many positive user reviews. Send us your address @Hybridway and we will send you a couple sample bottles. You can share your results with us all.

What's that you say, I get a HLG-550 w/ my order of Mammoth samples?
Sounds good to me. Where do I sighn?
Ha, thnx though. I have a big bottle.
Would like to know if it will be compatible w/ DripClean though.
I am about to run a side by side if you're interested? I'd want the new light though. The fancy one.
Got all the wholes cut for the Thouie going in the big 8" hood. 7 days till flip hopefully. Plenty of doubles of plants.
I'm sure RIU would love it.
Lmk, I might even buy it at the end of the run.

 

[Stephenj37826]

What's that you say, I get a HLG-550 w/ my order of Mammoth samples?
Sounds good to me. Where do I sighn?
Ha, thnx though. I have a big bottle.
Would like to know if it will be compatible w/ DripClean though.
I am about to run a side by side if you're interested? I'd want the new light though. The fancy one.
Got all the wholes cut for the Thouie going in the big 8" hood. 7 days till flip hopefully. Plenty of doubles of plants.
I'm sure RIU would love it.
Lmk, I might even buy it at the end of the run.

I'll get back with you shortly.

 

[budman111]

Mammoth P is a specific/combination of strains of bacteria

at $500 a gallon lol I can get maximum out a plant with out that.

 

[Stephenj37826]

at $500 a gallon lol I can get maximum out a plant with out that.

Application rates matter. 1ml per gallon is not much.

 

[Hybridway]

I'll get back with you shortly.

Holla!

 

[Pmbreno]

Naw, haven't. Is that something I can just google?
Is it a side by side? Surprised they haven't started using lenses on them yet, unless I'm just not seeing it.
Wow, you really put allot of work into this vertical build to test. Was this your only run using this technique?
I'd like to see @zep_lover do this using a Horizon on each side, 2 cobs @ the top & the screen in the middle. Wazup Zep?!

Does anyone here have an opinion or experience using Mammoth P w/ the H&G line up? I ask cuz I recently Introduced the DripClean to their feed & want to add the Mammoth but feel the Drip clean will kill it. Any input on this would be appreciated.

Never used mammoth p but started using great white a couple runs ago and both veg and flower Rez are perfect. H&G has their own micros but can't sell in the states so they recommend great white.

 

[Hybridway]

Never used mammoth p but started using great white a couple runs ago and both veg and flower Rez are perfect. H&G has their own micros but can't sell in the states so they recommend great white.

Oh yeah, they have that Rizo-Force stuff or whatever it's called. Their whole line is just mad overpriced. If one was to use Shooting Powder it would cost about $15-$30 a feed depending on your dosage just for that one additive. Shiiiiit, then I think it fried my leaves n that was the $15 (1/2 strength) feed. And that's still 5 gall short of my Rez size. Redic.
Used to use GW during transplant but not anymore. That's not like the Mammoth in make.
Did well w/ TechNaFlora. Don't know why I switched.

 

[OneHitDone]

Breaking News: Brother OneHitDone returns for more Vertical Growing!

Well, I guess I really acquired a taste for working with Big Girls and just can't leave well enough alone.
So, I am returning to the realm of Vertical Growing after laying it back down horizontal for a while.
This will be a transition over the next few months as I move crops through the garden
New hydro system design, new lighting arrangement, and no F'n Trellis BS - Big Fat sweat hogs gone wild is what I am after this round.
Dropped my first pair of little ones into top feed hydro tonight to get them going before the big veg is ready once again.
Will post update as things progress

 

[PKHydro]

What's the plan to support these girls?

 

[OneHitDone]

What's the plan to support these girls?

Some type of tomato cage like structures so the plants can still be rotated

 

[gr865]

Do you plan on growing trees or are you going to bind them.
From your pic I see what looks like a tree grow. What is your room size, LxDxH.
From your drawing It looks like you plan on running the 100W in their reflectors and the 600 bare bulb. Have you run this way before? Can the 1000W be run in that orientation?
I like the plan set up and plan on paying regular visits to you journal.

GR

 

[OneHitDone]

5 x 10 x 8 with big elNatural Trees.
Space is small for that size of plant so going to utilize a pair of Raptor hoods turned up on end so that they lamps can be places tight in corner and be cooled.
Hortilux Super HPS is a Universal burn position rated lamp so no problemo there.
The 600 will either be bare or possibly in a cool tube, I am playing this by ear till I see how the space fills in, etc.
No trellises this go round. Will use some sort of support obviously (tomato cage type structure and stakes) but want to be able to rotate the plants daily for even development

 

[gr865]

No vertical trees but a few grows back I ran a 315w CMH and a SS400 LED both hung horizontal on the diagonal.
I was able to rotate these two plants and also flip them to give each equal time under each light.

Almost three months later

Plant on the right is a WW and the one on the left is a Super Citrus Haze.

Don't remember is this was 9 or 12 zips off the two plants.

GR