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abalonehx

abalonehx

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I will say this. The color of your skin has overcome many and most of the prejudices associated with it
when class & wealth will never change and that prejudice is set in stone. In other words, you can achieve integration of white and black but you will never have rich and poor together. So whats more powerful?
 
dagwood45431

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abalonehx said:
In my younger days I had long hair and drove a shitty car and was pulled over and harassed
simple because of this.
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Your family was never forced into indentured servitude, or beaten, or split apart as part of a barbaric practice. You people really do need to gain a sense of perspective. Long hair and black skin in America? Not even in the same category.
 
Fogdog

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st0wandgrow said:
No, but he will not face as much overt racism due to his economic status as an average black man would.
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So there you have it.

A white person who is born into low socio economic status can leave all the crap they deal with by earning more money and looking the part of the wealthy class that they are now part of.

abalonehx said:
Classism. Money fucking talks. Sad reality.
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A black person can make his life less affected by racism but can never be free from its effects. Money makes his life better. But he's still subjected to more pull-overs by police than white people and has to keep his guard up from racists no matter the setting. Not to mention the fear he feels of the police as his testosterone charged teenage son drives off.

And don't tell me the wealthy aren't racist. Please don't tell me that. That wealthy black man's children will grow up with racial taunts and be subjected to the racist images prevalent in this society. I can only imagine how the black father feels the first time his kid comes home with that story. There are still golf and tennis clubs that exclude black people too. Finally, people tend to think people with darker skin are less intelligent. A smart person can take advantage of that but dealing with racist preconceptions are a headwind that is added to all the others that everybody else faces.

Sure money matters. Sure economic class matters. So does race -- race matters a lot.
 
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abalonehx

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Racism is a tool of the elite to keep us divided my brothers. Deny it all you want.
Again, what is more powerful? Race or Class?
 
abalonehx

abalonehx

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Fogdog said:
So there you have it.

A white person who is born into low socio economic status can leave all the crap they deal with by earning more money and looking the part of the wealthy class that they are now part of.




A black person can make his life less affected by racism but can never be free from its effects. Money makes his life better. But he's still subjected to more pull-overs by police than white people and has to keep his guard up from racists no matter the setting. Not to mention the fear he feels of the police as his testosterone charged teenage son drives off.

And don't tell me the wealthy aren't racist. Please don't tell me that. That wealthy black man's children will grow up with racial taunts and be subjected to the racist images prevalent in this society. I can only imagine how the black father feels the first time his kid comes home with that story. There are still golf and tennis clubs that exclude black people too. Finally, people tend to think people with darker skin are less intelligent. A smart person can take advantage of that but dealing with racist preconceptions are a headwind that is added to all the others that everybody else faces.

Sure money matters. Sure economic class matters. So does race -- race matters a lot.
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Wrong. Wealth provides a black man the same protections as a white man with wealth. This is shown to be true so many times.
 
abalonehx

abalonehx

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dagwood45431 said:
Your family was never forced into indentured servitude, or beaten, or split apart as part of a barbaric practice. You people really do need to gain a sense of perspective. Long hair and black skin in America? Not even in the same category.
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how many generations back are we going? what do you know of my genealogy?
 
Fogdog

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abalonehx said:
Wrong. Wealth provides a black man the same protections as a white man with wealth. This is shown to be true so many times.
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Are wealthy white people free from racist belief? A wealthy black person has to deal with racism regardless of their economic status. Cops are famously more likely to pull over a black man. They don't know his status, only black man behind the wheel of the Mercedes or whatever. Consider a road trip and pulling into a gas station in the south. It's not always a safe situation for a black man. Wealth won't help him there.

And then, why this fixation on wealth? Black people make less and have fewer opportunities for advancement than white people. There aren't nearly as many wealthy black people as white people per capita. Actually, when this gap is finally closed, I might agree with you.
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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abalonehx said:
how is that not true?
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How does money erase the legacy of racism? You believe a rich black man is not affected by this legacy? Just the fact that this rich black man has probably had to consider whether or not to have the "hoodie" talk with his son is one quick example of how money does not wipe the slate clean. Your privilege blinds you. You cannot see these things. I have no idea why. I tried but I am done. Tedious and futile. Time to turn in, just a little more discouraged with us humans than usual. Sigh. I need a break. See you fuckers in a week or so.
 
abalonehx

abalonehx

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his legacy? like he wears it around his neck forever? now thats racist man.
And its past on to his son biblical like. Thats what you want?

whens the last time a baker refused to bake a cake for a black couple's wedding?
whens the last time a black couple was refused to be married?
whens the last time a black politician was refused to be president while an atheist has never been elected president?
A lot of prejudice out there man!
 
abalonehx

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Fogdog said:
Are wealthy white people free from racist belief? A wealthy black person has to deal with racism regardless of their economic status. Cops are famously more likely to pull over a black man. They don't know his status, only black man behind the wheel of the Mercedes or whatever. Consider a road trip and pulling into a gas station in the south. It's not always a safe situation for a black man. Wealth won't help him there.

And then, why this fixation on wealth? Black people make less and have fewer opportunities for advancement than white people. There aren't nearly as many wealthy black people as white people per capita. Actually, when this gap is finally closed, I might agree with you.
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ha 70% of pro athletes are black. Uhm whens the last time you heard of a rich black kid being
brutalized by the police? Its all about class and wealth. Duh.
 
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